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Hadlock posted:I would google this but Google can't seem to differentiate between Windows Server 2012 with Hyper V and Windows Hyper V Server 2012 IIRC "Windows Hyper V Server 2012" is free product that is basically Windows Server 2012 Core with only the Hyper-V role (All other server roles such as AD DS are stripped out). vvv Yeah that's what I meant by Core which has no GUI. vvv Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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That's correct. It also strips out explorer and anything else that's not related to Hyper-V, the only things it can do is boot a powershell prompt, a cmd shell prompt and that's it. It kind of reminds me of the Windows version of Gentoo or CentOS minimal or something. It's managed by another machine on the network, there is no GUI. I actually managed to get chrome installed and watch youtube videos on a Hyper-V install but that's another discussion. So I would boot a WS2012R2 VM and create a tiered storage space from the avalible local physical drives, and manage the hyper-v server from WS2012 and launch VMs that are stored on the storage space. Hadlock fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 02:20
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Aggrigate your storage with Freenas and ZFS, make 2 VHD's 20G a pop for Log and Cache then add in your slow storage
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Aug 26, 2013 03:05
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I'm trying to teach myself how to deploy and manage AD, tiered storage spaces, network file permissions etc on Windows
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Daylen Drazzi posted:Minus the thirty minutes of dumbassery on my part, the whole process took 3-4 minutes. IT.txt. If I had a nickel for every time I did almost everything right but then wasted an hour chasing down a retarded issue that turned out to be = vs == in a script or something...
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Aug 26, 2013 03:34
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Think I got this vCloud ARCH all layed out, incoming megapost sometime this week is VMworld isn't over exciting, which I am not expecting too much.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:24
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This is only kind of VM related, but since it has to do with my vSphere lab: Is there a good way to figure out how much CPU horsepower you'll need to drive XYZ iops over iSCSI/NFS when you're building a SAN whitebox? I've got a handful of SSDs to throw at the project, but I don't have anything but a bunch of mid to late 2000s P4s so I don't know if that would be a huge bottleneck or whether that should be fine for a small vSphere lab. OS would be FreeNAS or Nexenta. I could just virtualize everything on one machine but I'm out of SATA ports on my lab desktop, since it's not really DEDICATED to vSphere.
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Aug 26, 2013 04:35
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kill your idols posted:This lets you bake the custom VIB-files into an ISO for install, mount, etc to your USB drive or whatever else you do your base installs on. drat, that's pretty handy. Going to have to set up a nested ESXi box and give that a whirl.
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Aug 26, 2013 12:28
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Martytoof posted:This is only kind of VM related, but since it has to do with my vSphere lab: Is there a good way to figure out how much CPU horsepower you'll need to drive XYZ iops over iSCSI/NFS when you're building a SAN whitebox? I've got a handful of SSDs to throw at the project, but I don't have anything but a bunch of mid to late 2000s P4s so I don't know if that would be a huge bottleneck or whether that should be fine for a small vSphere lab. OS would be FreeNAS or Nexenta. I could just virtualize everything on one machine but I'm out of SATA ports on my lab desktop, since it's not really DEDICATED to vSphere. You'd probably be okay if you stuck to iSCSI with Freenas on those boxes
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http://virtualization.info/en/news/...ization.info%29 http://jasonnash.com/2013/08/26/vmware-releases-vsphere-5-5-whats-new/ And the NDA's are off, 5.5 coming out soon, looks like they made a lot of nice improvements, can't wait to see more cools stuff. vSans looks need so does NSX Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 18:08
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The better support for MSCS in Server 2012 excites me, hopefully we can finally cluster our fileservers.
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So, VMware only talks about vSphere with Operations Management now. They seemingly do not have SKUs without Operations Management as they did before (when we purchased earlier this year.) So, for someone with a regular Enterprise license, how are we supposed to know which features will be available to us and which features will not?
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Aug 26, 2013 18:29
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We are really excited about vsan. We heard of the feature a while ago and have basically been trying to figure out how to do something similar ourselves.
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More vSphere 5.5 coverage: http://wahlnetwork.com/category/deep-dives/5-5-vsphere-improvements/
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Aug 26, 2013 18:41
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This is pretty huge:quote:vSphere Hypervisor (free) has no physical memory limit anymore (was 32 GB) Allows for cheapskates to have more flexibility, and is probably a good business decision as it's likely to attract more people to give it a shot and find themselves springing for vSphere licensing. Neither article mentions if they're doing away with the Windows client. Rumor had it that 5.1 was the last version that supported it, but the web client suuuuuuuucks. The articles say that its performance has been improved, but I'd rather have a fallback until I'm sure it's usable.
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Aug 26, 2013 18:43
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The web client improved a lot on 5.5 and we should see this as the last verison that uses FLEX. SSO also got a nice rewrite which is nice and needed.
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Aug 26, 2013 18:46
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loving lol at the fact that they totally rewrote SSO just one version after it debuted. At least they can admit that it was garbage.
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Aug 26, 2013 18:55
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There's also now a lower-level VMWare cert (VCA) that you can take without having to go to any classes. http://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/plan.cfm?plan=41162&ui=www_cert Although it is yet to be seen if the VCA is actually valuable or not.
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The new site looks like crap IMO http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/compare
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The 63Tb VMFS thing is a HUGE HUGE improvement that will make me far less miserable on my database servers, file servers, Exchange server, Sharepoint server, etc. The vCenter vApp actually can manage a decent sized network now, with 500 vSphere hosts or 5,000 virtual machines. I can really see using it on my network just cause it's so easy to deploy and won't cost as much since I won't need Windows / SQL licenses. Am I crazy or are they going to be making vSphere 5.5 available for download today? I thought he was announcing GA for it but maybe he was just announcing GA for hybrid clouds.
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El_Matarife posted:Am I crazy or are they going to be making vSphere 5.5 available for download today? I thought he was announcing GA for it but maybe he was just announcing GA for hybrid clouds. Usually they wait like 30-60 days for the GA download.
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Okay guys you are being too positive here. What are the negatives so far? edit: Okay I'm reading about the VSAN and I see my boss already rubbing his hands together in an attempt to be even cheaper in our storage situation. ghostinmyshell fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Aug 26, 2013 19:34
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What the hell is up with their cert naming scheme. I don't like it.
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So is the server appliance actually worth considering now?
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ghostinmyshell posted:Okay guys you are being too positive here. 5.5 really is resolving a lot of my gripes with 5.1, I hope they don't pull some stupid poo poo and make all the new stuff Enterprise plus licensing requirement.
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ghostinmyshell posted:Okay guys you are being too positive here. Please remember that vSAN is still in beta (per VMWare) so it's not exactly "production-ready" just yet.
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This will seem a little self-involved, but: I'm doing my VCP5-DCV right now, is there a danger of a new version of this exam hiding around the corner? I'm already behind the ball by working with 5.0 curriculum as opposed to 5.1, looks like 5.5 is going to make it interesting too now.
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Martytoof posted:This will seem a little self-involved, but: I'm doing my VCP5-DCV right now, is there a danger of a new version of this exam hiding around the corner? I'm already behind the ball by working with 5.0 curriculum as opposed to 5.1, looks like 5.5 is going to make it interesting too now. Traditionally they go to the major revision, however they may throw in some 5.1 stuff or one or two .5 questions. Looks like the last revision is from Aug 13 2013 http://mylearn.vmware.com/lcms/web/portals/certification/VCA_Blueprints/VCAD510%20Exam%20Blueprint%20Guide%201.0.pdf So it may be updated for 5.1(looks like some Storage DRS), but I doubt you'll see 5.5 anytime soon.
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https://www.vsphereresourcekit.com/practice-exams/ is by far the best practice bank I used when I was prepping for my VCP5-DCV. It's not a brain dump, they actually tell you why the right answers are right and the wrong answers are wrong, etc. It was recommended to me by the instructor of the optimize and scale class I took. Unfortunately, it looks semi-dead.Number19 posted:So is the server appliance actually worth considering now? Sure looks like it to me. I'd like to see some testing but I'm guessing the vast majority of us aren't running >500 host > 5,0000 VM environments. The only feature I'm really dying for is support for 4 or 8 threads in Fault Tolerance. I can't imagine a single scenario where an application needs that much reliability and only uses one thread. What does everyone think of NSX? I know Google was talking about software defined networking as a huge performance boost to their network, which I can't really imagine with this sort of overlay. I'm not 100% sold on using VMware's solutions here either, I'd rather they keep building APIs for third party vendors who's technologies we're already using in appliance form. I know F5 already makes a load balancer as a vApp and I'm hoping to see more high quality integration of vApps from firms like Imperva or Cisco Ironport, etc. Would anyone really use VMware's VPN solution over Cisco, Juniper, Sonicwall, Fortinet, Checkpoint, etc? I also think it probably needs deep integration with hardware like the Nexus line but across a lot of vendors. El_Matarife fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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evil_bunnY posted:Google relaxed coscheduling, read up. Thanks for the terms to look for! edit: vSphere 5.5 posted:Virtual CPUs per host 4096 (was 2048) Phew. I'll finally be able to use all the processors in my gaming rig... Seriously, though. What does ESXi run on that even has 4K processors? Some kind of mainframe? Agrikk fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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vCPUs, not physical cores. For people who love to over-provision.
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with the new read cache, it looks like you assign it per VM. How will that work with shared snapshots in a VDI environment? Can I designate that all of the machines that use this one snapshot can share the cache?Mierdaan posted:vCPUs, not physical cores. For people who love to over-provision.
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Mierdaan posted:vCPUs, not physical cores. For people who love to over-provision. Heh. My IaaS team would love it, then.  But doesn't the host need to have at least that many CPU cores to be able to provide that many vCPUs to the VM?
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Derp mis read that yay 4 hours of sleep. E: I also want to kick myself for over complicating vCloud, it really is a fairly straight forward product. Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Aug 26, 2013 |
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:E: I also want to kick myself for over complicating vButt, it really is a fairly straight forward product. Don't worry about it. It's well worth spending as much time as you can getting familiar with all the quirks of vCloud Director, as it's got a long, bright future ahead of it.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Derp mis read that yay 4 hours of sleep. Do you have a book on vCloud or just trial/error and Google? That is something I should really start utilizing. I am lazy thus love automation.
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Pantology posted:Don't worry about it. It's well worth spending as much time as you can getting familiar with all the quirks of vCloud Director, as it's got a long, bright future ahead of it. I do not think vCloud Director has a bright future. Adoption has been weak, and that's one of the reasons Paul Maritz is no longer the CEO (supposedly). vCAC alone fits many of the roles vCD was sold for (self-service provisioning, etc), and OpenStack is the future. Even VMware couldn't ignore OpenStack in their keynote. VMware and other companies are trying to move way too fast and adding way too much complexity for most companies. Most companies don't have a use case for NSX or vCD, and implementing them without a darn good reason is over-engineering the environment. It's hard to even get the networking and server teams in the same room for most companies. NSX is super-duper niche. I don't even think most companies should use the dvSwitch unless there is a feature they require. Don't add complexity for no benefit! Server virtualization caught on because it was an easy sell. Lowering costs and physical server count is no brainer. Trying to sell "operational efficiencies" to most companies that just don't have the talent in house to pull it off, or even a need for it, is not an easy sell.
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three posted:I do not think vCloud Director has a bright future. Adoption has been weak, and that's one of the reasons Paul Maritz is no longer the CEO (supposedly). vCAC alone fits many of the roles vCD was sold for (self-service provisioning, etc), and OpenStack is the future. Even VMware couldn't ignore OpenStack in their keynote. OpenStack is becoming a really interesting platform, and VMware's got to throw their weight behind it if they have even a glimmer of a chance to compete with Amazon in the long term.
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My hackintosh laptop can't see its WLAN or WWAN cards. Could a Windows virtual machine see them and share access with the host Mac if connection sharing was supported? Can virtualization give my host computer vicarious access to hardware it otherwise wouldn't have, or do I not understand virtualization? Or does a VM have no access whatsoever to actual hardware.
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So it looks like in addition to my DBA and Coder hats, I'm rapidly sizing a system administrator hat for fitting. Part of this is trying to figure out how best to handle part-time virtualization of our performance test lab. Since I barely know the architecture of VMWare/Citrix/Whatever, mostly I've just read the OP and some basic literature, I figured I'd ask the question here: We have a very hefty performance test lab. We have a DB servers with the following stats: 512GB DDR3 2x Xeon E5-2690 43.6TB Raw storage 8TB SSD storage 10 GB Ethernet adapter and 2x Web servers (load balanced) with these stats: 16GB DDR3 Xeon E3-1280 200GB Given this amount of hefty architecture, would there be a way to use a separate server to virtualize the machines onto the existing hardware temporarily? For example, we might want to answer the question "How does running X software at Y workload run on Physical machines vs. virtualized machines?" and we would want to virtualize the OS, etc. for the duration of the test. Or would it just make more sense to put together a smaller ESXi (or comparable) server that could be used for those specific tests, using a smaller dataset and such?
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