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Otisburg posted:I mean why pick her instead of literally anyone else, fictional or not, living or not? It's not like they were going low key with Thomas Jefferson or The Mona Lisa. Of all the baffling poo poo about this, appropriating the missing and probably murdered woman is just the cherry on top. So they didn't just do a GIS for images of people roughly avatar sized?
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Aug 28, 2013 21:13
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Bot with a list of names, GIS the first name, uses that? That's the only way I can see that Reese's bar ending up in there.
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Aug 28, 2013 21:15
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They didn't photoshop the picture, you guys are being ridiculous. The picture they used is in the second row if you GIS "Alivia."
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Aug 28, 2013 21:17
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epitasis posted:They didn't photoshop the picture, you guys are being ridiculous. The picture they used is in the second row if you GIS "Alivia." Alright, my bad. One of the articles posted a picture of her that was exactly the same but with a watermark on the right side and slightly wider dimensions. Somebody else must have shopped it off and then they grabbed that version from the net. I guess this makes sense, it just searched 'peter' and 'thomas' and grabbed whatever it found. The images aren't the first for either of those GIS, but if you add on a specific size that makes it feasible.
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Aug 28, 2013 21:45
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And GIS has a search parameter specifically for faces, so with that setting and common avatar dimensions, it's probably just whatever popped up first for that first name.
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Aug 28, 2013 21:54
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Yeah I mean it's a really unfortunate mistake but I don't think it's a nefarious thing. At least not compared to the deliberate scamming.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Yeah I mean it's a really unfortunate mistake but I don't think it's a nefarious thing. At least not compared to the deliberate scamming. The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Games > OUYA- It's a really unfortunate mistake but I don't think it's a nefarious thing
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Werthog 95 posted:Don't take this as an endorsement of that Sherlock game, but the creator seems to be way more forthcoming than the Gridiron people. Here he is talking about it in the comments of his own Kickstarter project, claiming ignorance, yet apparently pursuing it, instead of just washing his hands of the whole thing. If he isn't bullshitting, it looks like this one's on OUYA. I exchange with the guy since a few days and if at first I gave him the benefit of the doubt, I know can say he is clearly hiding something. He's been playing dumb for too long, and still refuses to acknowledge the hundreds of obviously fake accounts. Even in PM, he still tries to tell me these profile could be legitimate first time backers. These last days, someone also started to fund more random projects through some of these fake profiles so they wouldn't look like it's their first project. Now I'm back at the feeling that this guy knows very well what's going on and continues to play dumb. I'm glad the news sites started relaying the rumors, giving him t least something to really worry about. He keeps saying his only fear is that these profiles might be fake accounts created to troll his campaign, that would cancel their pledge later. Completely ignoring all our explanations about the fact that the benefactor of all these fake accounts is his project.
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Aug 28, 2013 23:09
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I'm pretty sure you aren't able to cancel a pledge if it would make a project no longer be funded anyways.
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Aug 28, 2013 23:13
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Cerevisiae posted:I'm pretty sure you aren't able to cancel a pledge if it would make a project no longer be funded anyways. You are, so long as it's more than 24 hours until the deadline.
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Sam Chandola posted:Hey folks! I guess that's that then. They are all real people and that missing woman and the US state are just friends of friends and those dead presidents are just Sherlock Holmes fans. Sam seems happy to accept this, why aren't you?
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kemikalkadet posted:I guess that's that then. They are all real people and that missing woman and the US state are just friends of friends and those dead presidents are just Sherlock Holmes fans. Sam seems happy to accept this, why aren't you? I look forward to Ben Kuchera's next article being this, verbatim.
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Aug 28, 2013 23:32
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kemikalkadet posted:I guess that's that then. They are all real people and that missing woman and the US state are just friends of friends and those dead presidents are just Sherlock Holmes fans. Sam seems happy to accept this, why aren't you? That seems to be basically Kickstarter's policy when it comes to blatant scams that have gotten across the funding line. I suspect that them prioritising the payday over the integrity of the projects is going to bite them on the arse eventually.
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Aug 28, 2013 23:47
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I took screenshots of all the fake Holmes backers that have mysteriously changed names and profile pics. Someone's been busy (besides me)... http://imgur.com/a/ZdOji But don't worry, I'm sure this happens *all the time*.
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Aug 29, 2013 00:49
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The Saddest Rhino posted:Why would he do this? If it turns out really to be a scam, doesn't it just make him lose all kinds of credibility? You can't lose something you don't have.
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Aug 29, 2013 00:52
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frumpsnake posted:I took screenshots of all the fake Holmes backers that have mysteriously changed names and profile pics. Someone's been busy (besides me)... Loving the memes used as real pictures edit: Hey, one of these guys is supposedly from a pretty small town right by me. I should hit him up, ask what it's like to be a celebrity in hiding and what he thinks of this project.
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Aug 29, 2013 00:52
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Install Windows posted:You are, so long as it's more than 24 hours until the deadline. I kind of wonder about this, since OUYA seems to be saying that they've had projects already reach their funding goal, and all the references I've seen referred to it that way. Not that the Kickstarter actually gets funded, but reached their funding goal. If the fake backers back out a couple of days before the deadline, are the FTG funds still going to go to the devs? But that just seems screwy.
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Aug 29, 2013 01:05
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Seems some of them also started backing other projects? Which would these be?
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Oh yeah, I'm sure that users who created their accounts a week ago and all back one specific project will all suddenly decide to change their names and profile pictures all at the same time quite commonly. It's probably a pretty normal thing guys, nothing suspicious at all. Like, "Alex Adams" clearly just had a typo when he made his account, and fixed it shortly thereafter to his proper name, John Gaelin. HJE-Cobra fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Aug 29, 2013 |
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Aug 29, 2013 01:23
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OUYA: 'Scam' is such a loaded word
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Aug 29, 2013 01:30
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The only logical explanation for all the fake accounts is money laundering and funding terrorism.
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Aug 29, 2013 01:38
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According to the Holmes creator, apparently Kickstarter are perfectly happy with 65 already-suspicious user accounts up and changing their names+profiles:
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Aug 29, 2013 01:41
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Well I guess that settles it.
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Aug 29, 2013 01:58
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frumpsnake posted:According to the Holmes creator, apparently Kickstarter are perfectly happy with 65 already-suspicious user accounts up and changing their names+profiles: If he gets the money, I'd say the same thing. Then have a good life.
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Aug 29, 2013 02:03
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frumpsnake posted:According to the Holmes creator, apparently Kickstarter are perfectly happy with 65 already-suspicious user accounts up and changing their names+profiles: They reached out further than anyone ever has. Someone should ask them why they're bothering to make a game when they've apparently perfected time traveling.
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Aug 29, 2013 02:10
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Why even set a profile picture? It's optional. Not only are they scamming, they're scamming poorly.
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Sono posted:Why even set a profile picture? It's optional. Not only are they scamming, they're scamming poorly. 
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Aug 29, 2013 02:14
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Ugh, Kickstarter is so enabling, and they are pretty much the golden boy of fundstarting The sad thing is I keep hearing from people, and people with successful kickstarters at that, some who've posted in this very thread, that Kickstarter is going to peak or whatever but here's the thing. It's not. There will always be some new guy selling hopes and dreams and that's why the lack of transparency is "good" for KS.
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"Stop picking on Ouya, you guys" - Xbox co-founder Ed Fries.
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He's not only the co-founder of Xbox, but he's also receiving a poo poo ton of money from OUYA. Of course he is going to say that.
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Fixed that for you; can't for them, sadly.
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Must have been something in the water at Microsoft back then. Remember that Xbox co-creator Kevin Bachus ended at Infinium Labs working on the Phantom.
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CaptainCaveman posted:I kind of wonder about this, since OUYA seems to be saying that they've had projects already reach their funding goal, and all the references I've seen referred to it that way. Not that the Kickstarter actually gets funded, but reached their funding goal. If the fake backers back out a couple of days before the deadline, are the FTG funds still going to go to the devs? Well, there's also that if you pledge $1000 but your card only has $43 available it won't go past your credit limit or overdraft your debit card, the transaction will just fail. This doesn't get checked until after funding period is completed
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Wow, so this representative is saying that the missing woman is a legitimate backer? Alright. I'm going to get an Ouya just because of its video-playback capabilities, and its retro library. If... If an Ouya 2.0 comes out, I'll be surprised, as this thread leads me to believe it ain't doing so well. frumpsnake posted:What missing woman? 'alivia das' and 'Palm Coast, FL' and that picture were all just typos. Pachinko fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Aug 29, 2013 |
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Install Windows posted:Well, there's also that if you pledge $1000 but your card only has $43 available it won't go past your credit limit or overdraft your debit card, the transaction will just fail. This doesn't get checked until after funding period is completed They still have to pay the fee that the $1000 would have incurred though right?
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Alan Smithee posted:They still have to pay the fee that the $1000 would have incurred though right? Nope, they only pay it on transactions that go through
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Pachinko posted:Wow, so this representative is saying that the missing woman is a legitimate backer? Alright. What missing woman? 'alivia das' and 'Palm Coast, FL' and that picture were all just typos. 
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frumpsnake posted:What missing woman? 'alivia das' and 'Palm Coast, FL' and that picture were all just typos. Wow. Probably retracted the identity with a new one when their scam went public, and media outlets were picking the story up. Investors might have got word as well.
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