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poemdexter posted:2dtoolkit is worth the purchase because I can do stuff like this. Why is vomiting blood so satisfying?
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Hahaha took me ages to notice the poo poo pouring out too.
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Aug 29, 2013 14:58
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ahmeni posted:Why is vomiting blood so satisfying? I have no idea. I just wanted a simple slit throat particle effect and got it done last week. Then I got networking working and a buddy said "just move it down and make it yellow..." and then it all went downhill from there.
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Aug 29, 2013 17:01
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On the uGUI stuff, did they fix the nGUI issue of requiring you to use a third party bitmap font renderer? Can it go straight from a TTF? I feel horrible for all those PC-only devs that have to suffer through BMFont. It is almost impossible to get a good looking bitmap got out of it.
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Aug 29, 2013 17:20
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Shalinor posted:On the uGUI stuff, did they fix the nGUI issue of requiring you to use a third party bitmap font renderer? Can it go straight from a TTF? It goes straight through ttf, and holy poo poo that is 3 weeks of my life I want to get back.
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Aug 29, 2013 18:26
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Shalinor posted:On the uGUI stuff, did they fix the nGUI issue of requiring you to use a third party bitmap font renderer? Can it go straight from a TTF? NGUI already support dynamic fonts in lieu of bitmap fonts-- I'm doing that right now, in fact.
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Aug 30, 2013 00:32
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I'm just now learning C++ after a few years of using Game Maker, it looks like there's not much different so I'm feeling pretty good so far.  I'd like to try and make some simple 2D sprite games. Is Dev C++ and Allegro good or should I get OpenGL? Or something else entirely? 
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Aug 31, 2013 02:48
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Seven Force posted:I'm just now learning C++ after a few years of using Game Maker, it looks like there's not much different so I'm feeling pretty good so far. Famous last words.
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Aug 31, 2013 03:25
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^^^^ At least working with GML must've made him battle-hardened by now.Seven Force posted:I'm just now learning C++ after a few years of using Game Maker, it looks like there's not much different so I'm feeling pretty good so far. AFAIK, the popular C/C++ game libraries are SDL and SFML. I've heard of Allegro too but don't really know much about it. They all offer similar functionality though so I'd suggest just looking through tutorials and documentation, seeing which one you get along with best and picking that. SupSuper fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Aug 31, 2013 |
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Aug 31, 2013 03:26
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'll definitely check out SFML. I've been coding on and off in GML and so far it doesn't seem too difficult. I'm sure I'll be proven wrong soon!
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Aug 31, 2013 04:04
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Seconding SFML, it is really good, it reminds me a lot of Game Maker.
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Aug 31, 2013 05:46
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On the topic of Unity. The company I work for is going to be using it and everyone on the project, including myself have very little to no Unity experience. I was curious if there are well regarded open source code snippits, helper scripts, etc. out there? Editor extensions, general quality of life type stuff? I thought I remembered seeing some sort of Wiki or something with a bunch of Unity code snippits for editor extensions and such.
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Sep 2, 2013 02:16
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The "Community" link on the Unity website has what you're looking for, including a link to a Wiki that has tons of code samples and useful scripts/plug-ins/shaders/etc, as well as tutorials.
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Sep 2, 2013 02:59
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I've been working with using an entity system (Artemis) to build a game, and I had a question about the architecture. I have no problem with simple, disjointed entities - things like trees on a map, or an animated sprite. I have standard position, velocity, sprite components and movement, animation systems etc. The problems start when these components need to interact with each other. For example, I have a sprite who I'd like to identify the nearest tree in a grid, walk over to it, and then remove it. How would something like this translate in an entity system? It seems I need a system that works on a sprite (or lets say a Worker component), but that also pulls in every tree, finds the closest one, and updates its velocity to move towards it? I guess the confusing thing is how to pull all of these entities into a single system, given the way Artemis defines Aspects. I'd appreciate any insight.
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Sep 2, 2013 14:41
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Does anyone have any good suggestions for articles/tutorials on how to get into very simple multiplayer game-making? I know I can use Unity, but I'd prefer something that can function in two dimensions more easily. Unfortunately, I know next to nothing about this topic, so beginner resources would be appreciated!
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Sep 2, 2013 18:47
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Problem Sleuth posted:very simple multiplayer I think these words might be mutually exclusive.  I'm very interested in learning how to handle networking, myself, though.
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Sep 2, 2013 19:59
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OtspIII posted:I think these words might be mutually exclusive. Once you get to trying to make it so the players don't experience horrible control lag though, it is not simple.
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Sep 2, 2013 20:06
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Shalinor posted:I feel horrible for all those PC-only devs that have to suffer through BMFont. It is almost impossible to get a good looking bitmap got out of it. Jeeeeeeesus, I'm trying to get something that doesn't look like rear end out of it right now and it isn't working. Any tips? Edit: the only things that seem to remotely help are to not use any of the smoothing options and stick to black text  . And bold.
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Sep 2, 2013 20:33
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Problem Sleuth posted:Does anyone have any good suggestions for articles/tutorials on how to get into very simple multiplayer game-making? I know I can use Unity, but I'd prefer something that can function in two dimensions more easily. At the backend, normally you want either UDP or TCP for messaging. TCP just pumps a stream of bytes through that are guaranteed to arrive complete and in order, but it doesn't handle net quality issues elegantly. UDP lets you send packets that will be completely received if they're received, but packets can be lost or arrive out of order. The tradeoff is that if a network hiccup occurs, UDP will still give you more packets, while TCP will stop everything until it can ask the other end to send the packet it's missing. Below that, there are two basic models of multiplayer: Peer-to-peer and client-server. Peer-to-peer needs a deterministic simulation (meaning that every game step, all players will have the input of all players for that step and will run it, getting exactly the same results). The main advantage of it is that it's very light on bandwidth even when there's a lot of stuff going on in the world, so it's pretty common in RTS games. The main drawback is that the game is as laggy as the laggiest player, because all players need to be fully synced up for a world step. Client-server mostly has each player act as a dumb rendering and input terminal while the server decides what's going on in the world, so clients will generally push updates about their input state and the server will push updates about the world and player states. Most of the complexity is in prediction, which is necessary in fast-paced games because players want to see a lot of things happen as soon as they supply input for it even if it winds up not actually happening (i.e. firing weapons). I can run down some of the approaches for that if you want. Shalinor posted:I feel horrible for all those PC-only devs that have to suffer through BMFont. It is almost impossible to get a good looking bitmap got out of it. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Sep 2, 2013 |
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Sep 2, 2013 20:43
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It's not just that, the kerning and, well, just about everything else that comes out of BMFont is just plain ugly if you can get it to work at all. I've never had a font fail out of Glyph Designer but for some reason BMFont occasionally just shits itself and spits out unusable garbage.
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Sep 2, 2013 22:57
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Maybe I'll slap together an alternative next weekend or something then because cranking a font through FreeType and a bin packer isn't rocket science. No promises on exporting RTL, overlap, or ligatures though. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Sep 2, 2013 |
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Sep 2, 2013 23:36
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FateFree posted:I've been working with using an entity system (Artemis) to build a game, and I had a question about the architecture. I have no problem with simple, disjointed entities - things like trees on a map, or an animated sprite. I have standard position, velocity, sprite components and movement, animation systems etc. I don't know how Artemis does it, but when I was doing entity/component with XNA, I had manager classes that would manage groups of things. For your example, I would probably have some TreeManager class that has a list of all trees in it. Then on my sprite, I'd have some action that would call TreeManager.findNearestTree(myPosition). That would return the tree you need and you can do the rest. Problem Sleuth posted:Does anyone have any good suggestions for articles/tutorials on how to get into very simple multiplayer game-making? I know I can use Unity, but I'd prefer something that can function in two dimensions more easily. If you're doing Unity, you might have trouble wrapping your head around the fact that you're writing a single script that handles both your action and your client's action for just about everything. If you have trouble keeping the flow in your head, it's easy to get lost. "Very Simple" is not really a good way to describe net code at all, but if you're looking for a barebones example in unity, here's my game jam entry (uses 2dtoolkit for sprites): https://github.com/poemdexter/2DToolkit-Game
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OneEightHundred posted:You're not using bitmap fonts rendered with a different point size than the one you're displaying at, are you? That's a really common mistake when rendering fonts and something you should never do, if you want fonts at multiple point sizes then you need to render them at each point size, not just take a big one and scale it down. I've tried displaying them without resizing them. It actually looks slightly better when I scale it down. The characters just have rough edges and weird dark halos. If I take the tga I get from BMFont, open it in Paint.NET or whatever and throw a white layer underneath the original layer, you can see a bunch of dark outlines around the characters. I assume they're there to attempt to make the diagonals/curves have sharper edges, but they just end up looking bad. I'm using UIToolkit (I'm too poor for NGUI  ), which has you run the tga/png through TexturePacker before you can access it in Unity. I'm not sure whether TexturePacker might be doing anything that could mess it up, but I would assume not. The tga/png doesn't look all that sharp before I put it through TexturePacker anyway.OneEightHundred posted:Maybe I'll slap together an alternative next weekend or something then because cranking a font through FreeType and a bin packer isn't rocket science. If you happen to dump a fnt file in the same format as BMFont (or a subset of it), I will love you.
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ZombieApostate posted:I've tried displaying them without resizing them. It actually looks slightly better when I scale it down. The characters just have rough edges and weird dark halos. If I take the tga I get from BMFont, open it in Paint.NET or whatever and throw a white layer underneath the original layer, you can see a bunch of dark outlines around the characters. I assume they're there to attempt to make the diagonals/curves have sharper edges, but they just end up looking bad. It sounds like the files are using premultiplied alpha, which is why you're getting those outlines. If you can change the blending mode, try source = One, dest = OneMinusSourceAlpha instead of source = SourceAlpha, dest = OneMinusSourceAlpha (I don't use Unity so I don't know the blending mode names there)
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Sep 3, 2013 03:45
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Well, I couldn't find any specific blend mode options, but I did discover that the "Alpha is Transparency" check box in the texture options is somehow messing it up. And that setting your texture type to GUI means that that check box is on. For some reason with that setting on, bits and pieces of the dark outlines don't show up, which looks REALLY bad. It still has darker outlines, but at least they're consistent and they don't look like like the blend mode problem anymore. Now, at least I have the mediocre BMFont font showing up as it was intended (I guess).
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Sep 3, 2013 19:21
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Are there any platforming physics articles out there that go alongside the actual code itself? I've picked through the Megaman slope style article and the N broad collision tutorial but I'm having trouble piecing together how these would look in code.
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Sep 4, 2013 00:13
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Probably not, since giving you the code really doesn't help your understanding at all, and what platforming semantics you need depend on what type of game you want to make. The N collision tutorial also seemed relatively straightforward to me. What issues are you having translating them into code?
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Suspicious Dish posted:Probably not, since giving you the code really doesn't help your understanding at all, and what platforming semantics you need depend on what type of game you want to make. I think I've got the handle on solid box collisions: 1) Get character AABB Rect 2) Project testing edge (left/right/up/down depending on -delta/+delta) 3) If projected point lies within a box, set new position as edge of box It's where I'm hitting sloped edges that I'm not sure how to go about the translations for the slope collisions and so I was looking for something along the lines of someone explaining how they're doing point tests and results. The project itself is a little tile based platforming hack and slash.
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Sep 4, 2013 00:56
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Have you read Metanet's first tutorial on Collision Detection and Response? Tutorial B is taking that first article and making it scale, so you really should read Tutorial A and make something that doesn't scale first so you understand it.
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Sep 4, 2013 01:15
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Still learning Unity and I spent way too much time wondering why some positions weren't updating. This is not allowed (gives an error): code:code:code:
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Sep 4, 2013 01:29
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transform.position returns a copy. So you're modifying the copy, not the original.
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Sep 4, 2013 01:43
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ZombieApostate posted:Still learning Unity and I spent way too much time wondering why some positions weren't updating. Use transform.Translate(Vector3 translation); http://docs.unity3d.com/Documentation/ScriptReference/Transform.Translate.html
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Sep 4, 2013 01:49
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Suspicious Dish posted:Have you read Metanet's first tutorial on Collision Detection and Response? Tutorial B is taking that first article and making it scale, so you really should read Tutorial A and make something that doesn't scale first so you understand it. It was my understanding that the Metanet N-style was built for platforming with collisions involving arbitrary polygons via the Separating Axis Theorem, which seemed like too big of a hurdle to tackle for the simple route I wanted to go with just 1:1 and maybe 1:2 slopes.
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Sep 4, 2013 01:50
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ZombieApostate posted:Still learning Unity and I spent way too much time wondering why some positions weren't updating. I think it's something everyone runs into now and then in C#. Structs are a bit awkward.
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Sep 4, 2013 01:50
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ZombieApostate posted:Still learning Unity and I spent way too much time wondering why some positions weren't updating. code:code:SupSuper fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Sep 4, 2013 01:51
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Yeah, I saw Transform.Translate(), but I was trying to set initial positions, so it was kind of awkward since the prefab I was instantiating already had a default transform. It's just really annoying coming from C++, since they all would have either given a compile error (if position was private, for example) or flat out worked the way you would expect. It's one of the things I'm not wild about with regards to C#. Sure you could build something that would behave the same way in C++ (say, if you were caching the position and only updating it once per frame based on a series of translations during that frame), but then you'd probably make position private and force you to use functions to get/set instead. I'll get used to it eventually  .
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Sep 4, 2013 02:05
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ZombieApostate posted:It's just really annoying coming from C++, since they all would have either given a compile error (if position was private, for example) or flat out worked the way you would expect. It's one of the things I'm not wild about with regards to C#. Sure you could build something that would behave the same way in C++ (say, if you were caching the position and only updating it once per frame based on a series of translations during that frame), but then you'd probably make position private and force you to use functions to get/set instead. I'll get used to it eventually
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Oh, I'm not trying to say it's bad or anything, it just behaves differently than I'm used to, so my instincts are a bit off.
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ZombieApostate posted:Oh, I'm not trying to say it's bad or anything, it just behaves differently than I'm used to, so my instincts are a bit off. If you're using Unity, there are usually better ways of setting initial position like in the inspector when your game object exists at start of scene or using the position parameter in Initiate. http://docs.unity3d.com/Documentation/ScriptReference/Object.Instantiate.html I totally get the frustration with some of the Unity stuff especially the Vector3 class. I was with you! If you're dead set on setting position in a traditional manner, I'd stick to code:
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Orzo posted:The problem here has nothing to do with language choice, though. If the property was instead named 'GetCopyOfPosition', and a method, you probably wouldn't have any complains with it. Or, if the Unity developers had implemented Vector3 as a class instead of a struct, you'd also get the expected behavior (but lesser performance--structs live on the stack, not the heap, and have advantages with respect to garbage collection). You gotta admit its one of the weirder things about the language though, that you can create a property to a struct. It's confusing if you aren't paying attention or aren't familiar with how C# handles class vs struct. They need better compiler warnings on it if nothing else. xgalaxy fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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