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goldboilermark posted:I'd be interested in your opinion what's good, because once we finish Liar and Spy (it's been a bit up and down) I have nothing else planned. Well we told them we're doing The Outsiders this year and a couple of the kids just read it outright. They said it was really good and once they started they wanted to keep going. I haven't done it as a unit yet but it looks promising. The slang is more current than you would think.
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You never have anything to declare at customs and if you're caught just tell them it's a mistake and give them a cigarette package.
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Since people are talking about books, a friend of a professor who is an English teacher at a university asked me if I knew any decently contemporary books her uni kids could read. She said she's sick of the same 'ol stuff like Old Man and the Sea they read every year. Anyone know any? I only read bad books.
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Neil Gaiman is really loving good.
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How is their level? Life of Pi and The Kite Runner are both awesome. A few other contemporary books I've read in the past year or so were The Tiger's Wife (meeeeeh), In the Sea There Are Crocodiles (meeeeeeeeh) and A Hologram for a King (yay Dave Eggers! Good overall, but a little substandard in my opinion for his work usually. [Sorry Dave]) Uhm...comedy option, ASOIAF series? This might be a derail that is better suited for TBB.
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Aug 29, 2013 15:26
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Anyone ever read The True Meaning of Smekday? Requires an awareness of what happened to the native americans but it's hilarious and great. One of the characters speaks horribly broken English and I can see that being funny for ESL kids beyond a certain level.
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Aug 29, 2013 15:33
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I suppose World On Fire would be right out.
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Magna Kaser posted:Since people are talking about books, a friend of a professor who is an English teacher at a university asked me if I knew any decently contemporary books her uni kids could read. She said she's sick of the same 'ol stuff like Old Man and the Sea they read every year. Anyone know any? I only read bad books. Animal Farm 
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BadAstronaut posted:Neil Gaiman is really loving good. I really like Neil Gaiman but for some reason his stuff seems to fly over ESL learners. I recommended some of his books to a couple of Chinese friends who wanted new English books to read and have pretty drat good English, but they thought it was all too weird and hard. Maybe the graveyard book? But that's meant for like middle schoolers I think (Still a p good read tho). I know ASOFAI was a joke, but the show is picking up steam and I wonder how Abercrombie's The First Law books would do. The two series get compared a fair bit, but Abercrombie's books are a lot shorter, easier to read, less graphic (which might be better for China) and less dense. I have no idea what their level is, the teacher in question is a Chinese person with pretty decent English skills, though, if that changes anything.
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Get a big list from TBB, then run it by this or the LAN thread to see what people think would go over best with the Chinese kids, I think.Magna Kaser posted:I really like Neil Gaiman but for some reason his stuff seems to fly over ESL learners. Cultural references and a different set of tropes than non-western audiences are used to I'm guessing.
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Magna Kaser posted:I really like Neil Gaiman but for some reason his stuff seems to fly over ESL learners. Again, sci fi and fantasy has the problem that the reader needs a baseline for what's normal to suspend disbelief. When the reader is from another culture it's harder to figure out what's supposed to be real and what's fantastical.
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I gave one of my former interns a Terry Pratchett book a couple years back. She claims she understood it perfectly but I really doubt she did.
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MeramJert posted:I gave one of my former interns a Terry Pratchett book a couple years back. She claims she understood it perfectly but I really doubt she did. If I watch Squidbillies I understand it enough to think it's funny, but not being from Georgia, I'll never understand it perfectly.
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Has anyone experimented with graphic novels? This could be a way of using Gaiman and 'what is going on in this frame' to help with discussion and understanding. It's been a long time since I taught ESL. For my own Chinese language learning I loved to use comic books.
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Sogol posted:Has anyone experimented with graphic novels? This could be a way of using Gaiman and 'what is going on in this frame' to help with discussion and understanding. It's been a long time since I taught ESL. For my own Chinese language learning I loved to use comic books. I'm not sure Sandman is a good choice for ESL, if that's what you're thinking, because any of the problems with his children's fiction for that purpose are gonna be a lot worse there.
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I was thinking Neverwhere or Coraline, but maybe similar problems.
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The True Meaning of Smekday is a real pro-read BTW, I recommend it for adults too. The first five pages are like the evacuation scenes in Independence Day if they made you laugh so hard you feel like you might die a little bit.
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Aug 29, 2013 17:33
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Balzac and the Little Chinese Seamstress
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It looks like MY CHINESE WIFE and I may need to make a few trips back to the mainland over the next year or so -- even if it turns out to be less, does anybody here know which visa type I should be trying to get now? Is it still just a long-period multi entry L or is there a different kind for foreign spouses that is more like a residence permit and the reduced paperwork associated with those? Edit: so I guess it's Q1 or Q2 if it is not L but I assume that my wife no longer counts as resident in China so it'll be L for me? waloo fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 29, 2013 |
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waloo posted:It looks like MY CHINESE WIFE and I may need to make a few trips back to the mainland over the next year or so -- even if it turns out to be less, does anybody here know which visa type I should be trying to get now? Is it still just a long-period multi entry L or is there a different kind for foreign spouses that is more like a residence permit and the reduced paperwork associated with those? Last I heard multi-entry/year long tourist visas were easy to get. Did your wife renounce citizenship/hukou for a green card? Or is she just over on the fiance visa?
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SB35 posted:Last I heard multi-entry/year long tourist visas were easy to get. Did your wife renounce citizenship/hukou for a green card? Or is she just over on the fiance visa? She has a green card now so whatever that implies. You renounce hukou when you become resident somewhere else?
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I used to teach Holes and I think it's a good one.
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I strongly endorse comics/graphic novels for language learning, since they take realistic (err usually) spoken language and put it in written form, where it won't get mixed up by dialect/noise/stress. If you're still trying to learn everyday spoken language (which most ESL learners are), then literature and prose novels aren't that helpful, since they're full of flowery descriptive language that doesn't get used much outside of books. Just don't use any science fiction or fantasy stories that have their own weird vocabularies.
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ASOIAF would be a fantastic troll for your class. Sweet little Chinese girl comes up to the front of the class and reads, "He sucked on her breasts and her milk filled his mouth, mingling with the rum and he had never tasted anything so fine and good in all his life"
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GuestBob posted:Nobody cares about your baijiu and horse cock porn. On the contrary, I can see bad day making a Hollywood rom-com dash for the departure gate in a last ditch effort to tell the horse cock porn of his dreams how much he loves it and doesn't want it to leave. He will then walk out of the airport carrying it Richard Gere style with everyone hooping and a hollerin. Guess I'm just an old romantic at heart. Unlike you Bob, you embittered and cold hearted swine, you. 
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Big Alf posted:Unlike you Bob, you embittered and cold hearted swine, you. My heart was gelded long ago.
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Big Alf posted:On the contrary, I can see bad day making a Hollywood rom-com dash for the departure gate in a last ditch effort to tell the horse cock porn of his dreams how much he loves it and doesn't want it to leave. He will then walk out of the airport carrying it Richard Gere style with everyone hooping and a hollerin. Let's keep poo poo posting in the LAN
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SB35 posted:Let's keep poo poo posting in the LAN I will try your lordship
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China goons and of course Pro PRC, I'm trying to set up a Mainland account because I want to use online shopping and all. Looking at this just makes me squirm What's the goon consensus on banks again? Are there any banks where I don't have to download lovely software and can just use a security token? caberham fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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Big Alf posted:On the contrary, I can see bad day making a Hollywood rom-com dash for the departure gate in a last ditch effort to tell the horse cock porn of his dreams how much he loves it and doesn't want it to leave. He will then walk out of the airport carrying it Richard Gere style with everyone hooping and a hollerin. This isn't even vaguely clever but you are on my list now.
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People get very serious about a great many things in this thread, when in fact the only things worth being serious about are the safety, comfort and in-flight entertainment of the various airlines that serve Shanghai.
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BadAstronaut posted:People get very serious about a great many things in this thread, when in fact the only things worth being serious about are the safety, comfort and in-flight entertainment of the various airlines that serve Shanghai. United's midnight ice cream makes life better.
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caberham posted:China goons and of course Pro PRC, I'm trying to set up a Mainland account because I want to use online shopping and all. Looking at this just makes me squirm Probably none. Fortunately it's pretty unobtrusive except the need to use IE. Or order from the phone app.
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JimBobDole posted:United's midnight ice cream makes life better. Not all of us are coming from or going to America you know 
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caberham posted:China goons and of course Pro PRC, I'm trying to set up a Mainland account because I want to use online shopping and all. Looking at this just makes me squirm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/activex-for-chrome/lgllffgicojgllpmdbemgglaponefajn Posted in other thread, posting here just cus... use this, problem solved.
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JimBobDole posted:United's midnight ice cream makes life better. Maybe, but the baseline that you're getting better from is "flying United."
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VideoTapir posted:Maybe, but the baseline that you're getting better from is "flying United."
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bad day posted:This isn't even vaguely clever but you are on my list now. HAHAHAHAHAHA. YOU'RE ON THE LIST, PAL GOOD LUCK GETTING ANY MLP MERCHANDISE WHEN I POST YOUR INTERNET HANDLE ON "THE LIST". YOU HAVE MADE THE LIST THE LIST IS POWERFUL AND UNFORGIVING
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The LAN thread is leaking again. Though I'll admit, I chortled.
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