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ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

conventionalcat posted:

Dope thanks for the links and I would really appreciate the mixing help. In case you couldn't tell I'm kinda sloppy at it still. I've been working on that last track I posted but I'll start on this real soon, and post what I get done by Thursday probably.

edit: your friend obviously really likes Lil B too eh?

He does, he's also really into like Wiz Khalifa for whatever reason. We have a New Rap Order album coming out; the cover art is a painting someone did of him dressed as a pharaoh and we're gonna have a bunch of pyramids and illuminati/freemason symbols hidden in it. If you pre-order the special edition you get handmade soap with his face imprinted on it and a bottle of limited edition pharaoh beer.

https://www.copy.com/s/ejAoS8UL8pYm/whatssssgoood.mp3 new mixxx of a real hood banger

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conventionalcat
Dec 17, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Album sounds hype and I enjoy your/his style it also reminds me of Metro Zu. Also today I got to make a music sub-folder called Goon poo poo, I hope yours are all named the same. This rap poo poo just got real.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
flipped an isaac hayes sample
https://soundcloud.com/goobermusic/bucket-of-crabs

conventionalcat
Dec 17, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
On the last page a couple rappers asked for criticism and both identified with lacking a certain element to their raps. It's not a simple question to answer, but you're right in thinking that having that self-doubt and questioning will always help push you further. My advice is to rap over your favourite rap songs until you're outshining (in your personal opinion, improving on) the original rapper's delivery with his own bars (my personal jams to rap along to are usually Kanye West but w/e works). It will help your delivery a lot so always do it. I'm pretty sure I heard that advice on here somewhere, maybe that How to Rap thread that thndrthf posted in. There was some really good advice in there, not sure if it's still around. Maybe we should pull one up to discuss rapping over production?


I really love this.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Aye aye aye

http://snd.sc/1499PAJ

Ladle Lady
Apr 28, 2006

Videogames Are Great!
Alright fellas, I put this up at the start of the month and I've been getting a lot of good feedback about it. Bearing that in mind, I decided I wanted to show it to y'all in the hopes that I'll get some real, in-depth critique on it. That, and it features production from our very own THNDRTHF, lanzy and ashgromnies. The gist of what I was going for lyrically was just trying to find different niches to fill with each track.

Anyway, please take a listen to F O R M S

https://wormwoodmt.bandcamp.com

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Omg it finally came out :swoon:

I am kinda embarrassed by how the mix on the track I did sounds now, let me give you a remix if you want :)

also, have these http://snd.sc/19QtFA4 http://snd.sc/142PBIX

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.

Thanks for the re-post!

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
How does one know when your beats are hot enough to show all the talented goon lads? Special shout out to Thoogsby, THNDRTHF, and abed avatar cuz I've hosed heavy with yall while lurking.

Also... rapping?? How do you do it? It's hard.

a dog from hell fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Sep 1, 2013

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
tweaking double post bad

Yo here is my third beat ever if anybody wants to rag on me. I stayed up all night coked out making it and now I'm tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-H-djs2M4Y

a dog from hell fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 1, 2013

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
i work out rhymes by challenging girls to rap battles on Tinder.

PSA edit: skip to 5:49 in this and have your mind blown https://soundcloud.com/projectmooncircle/pmc120-submerse-melonkoly-snippet

Thoogsby fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Sep 1, 2013

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
Y'know maybe that is what I need to jog my brain out of it's perma-weed fog and think of clever rhymes on a dime. I'll report back in a week or something.

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
why philly so funky
https://soundcloud.com/smallprofessor/bye-myself

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.

Splurgerwitzl posted:

How does one know when your beats are hot enough to show all the talented goon lads? Special shout out to Thoogsby, THNDRTHF, and abed avatar cuz I've hosed heavy with yall while lurking.

Yo here is my third beat ever if anybody wants to rag on me. I stayed up all night coked out making it and now I'm tired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-H-djs2M4Y

I'd say come back in like 2 months or something, it sounds like you don't even really know your tools that well yet.

a dog from hell
Oct 18, 2009

by zen death robot
You're correct I do not. It's a lot of fun though. Adios thread.

Backup Snacks
Jan 27, 2006

WHO THE FUCK TOLD ME NOT TO SPOKE?
Whatsup PWH crew? After realizing that becoming a serious producer/MC was mostly a pipe dream, caused by being strungout on various pills and hard drugs, went back to just being a fan/listening.

Anyway, an old friend hit me up about doing some verses on a little mixtape. Nothing serious but I don't wanna just phone it in. I know about the snare on the 2 and 4 and basic stuff but was wondering if you guys had any tips on how to get better at staying in the pocket on more complex beats? Obviously practice but any specific things that helped you guys?

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
What do you mean by complex beats? Like 2-step? Maybe provide an example.

Backup Snacks
Jan 27, 2006

WHO THE FUCK TOLD ME NOT TO SPOKE?
I guess complex wasn't really the word I was looking for. With older breaks, it's easy but some of these have so much instrumentation and drum patterns that flip a lot. I always wrote 16s that each bar rhymed at the end and if I could slip another one in, the middle or beginning.

The problem is that doing it that way, the flow sounded off a lot of the times and definitely was not in the pocket. I have been counting bars of songs I think have good flow and sometimes the rhymes hit on the 4 but I get lost in some of the faster, multisyllabic stuff.

I know I need to write a lot and listen for bars in other songs. Just wondering if anyone else was able to break the habit of just doing 4 rhyme schemes in a verse. Or suggestions on other ways to keep from writing like a youtube comment on an instrumental.

spoils
Nov 2, 2012
Hey producers just finished my first beat after a long time of learning programs and stuff like that, not too proficient at mixing or mastering so that was definitely the biggest thing missing from this piece imo.
My DAW of choice is of course Dr. Drum
https://soundcloud.com/spoils-1/feelings
Edit: posted cause I was wondering if you guys had any advice or if someone wanted to sign me to da Roc

spoils fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Sep 6, 2013

conventionalcat
Dec 17, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Backup Snacks posted:

Whatsup PWH crew? After realizing that becoming a serious producer/MC was mostly a pipe dream, caused by being strungout on various pills and hard drugs, went back to just being a fan/listening.


Pipe dream or not it's still possible with enough practice and dedication. Dreams aren't inherently unreachable, you just need to be willing to take as many shots as it takes. I'm not trying to inspire anybody or anything it's just how I see it, and it saddens me to see would-be musicians demotivated by the word "dream" which is such an ambiguous term for anything to do with real life. Sorry, I'm done now.

Also sorry for not posting in here for a while, new goal is to post stuff on that beat for you ashgromnies by this Thursday lol i work overnights so it's hard to keep up sometimes with accidentally sleeping all day and whatnot.

edit: for actual feedback on getting back into it and bars and poo poo. maybe read a book on it, for me I just rhyme as i go, i guess i mostly meld my rhymes to my thoughts, and use different rhyme schemes for different effect. it's not something that comes natural in writing, but to rhyme isn't that hard. to work on that, I freestyle, whether the sentences linking the rhyming words are gibberish or not, it helps get the rhyming words flowing. you hear other rappers differentiate their rhyme schemes, so do that in your own raps. just copy how you see it but in your own interpretation. eventually you'll adopt it as your own. im still self conscious about my poo poo idk i just know that by creating more and raising the bar for yourself you'll get better.. so yeah you know the gist of it its practice. the pros are still practicing when theyre creating as well

eedit: theres no formula for how the creative process really works so do what works for you and have fun with it! you gotta like doin it to take it seriously so dont think im trying to persuade you to pursue it as a career or anything

conventionalcat fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Sep 7, 2013

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
that kick drum doe
https://soundcloud.com/foolsgoldrecs/07-worlds-fair-v-s-o-p-cody-b

conventionalcat
Dec 17, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
TNGHT just posted this on facebook, related to the advice I gave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuQNxwOhGmA

Backup Snacks
Jan 27, 2006

WHO THE FUCK TOLD ME NOT TO SPOKE?
Thanks cc, that was inspiring. I love hip-hop and have been writing "raps" since I was like 8. But I had this idea that it would be a lot easier than it is. I've accepted I'm not a beatmaker but I like a lotta the poo poo I've written, just need to work on some stuff.

Been reading up on bars and how to link them without using just rhymes on the 4 (or 2 and 4) and realizing I don't have to stick to 4 4 bar rhyme schemes. I've been listening a lot closer to see how different rappers flow on different songs and I think I was trying to box myself into some lame, formulaic stuff.

Also been reading through the thread and trying to freestyle to some of the beats. And seeing people progress as producers/MCs is awesome.

Nuked
Jul 5, 2011
So I'm pretty interested in making beats again, where should an absolute beginner start?

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Nuked posted:

So I'm pretty interested in making beats again, where should an absolute beginner start?

Probably with making beats that suck and then getting better.

dianekwon
Sep 1, 2012

ashgromnies posted:

Probably with making beats that suck and then getting better.

I recommend skipping that nonsense and straight to making good beats

Formal Bad
Oct 31, 2011
Got off my rear end and started producing tracks again. Here's some stuff I've cooked up in the last few months:

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/two86

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/no-talk

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/aether

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/the-hum

Slowly trying to move away from samples and use more synth in my songs.

Ladle Lady
Apr 28, 2006

Videogames Are Great!

Formal Bad posted:

Got off my rear end and started producing tracks again. Here's some stuff I've cooked up in the last few months:

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/no-talk

Slowly trying to move away from samples and use more synth in my songs.

I just wanted to link the song I did off this one: https://soundcloud.com/wormwood-1/armed-locust-beat-by-formal

I'm pretty proud of the mix on this one/actually switching up my flow a little bit. Also FB, I was the guy who directed that J. Dub fella to your page, did he end up following through with buying a beat?

Formal Bad
Oct 31, 2011

Ladle Lady posted:

I'm pretty proud of the mix on this one/actually switching up my flow a little bit. Also FB, I was the guy who directed that J. Dub fella to your page, did he end up following through with buying a beat?

I sent him an offer, but he hasn't hit me back yet. Dunno, if he's going to.

MrMPH
Sep 11, 2013
Passionate hip-hop producer here! Thought I would introduce myself. Ive been performing in the LA area for a little bit now.. pretty excited about where my sound is headed. Id love some feedback and looking forward to keep this movement going.

soundcloud.com/mrmph

Freddie Gibbis
Jul 30, 2007

~~ schween lyfe ~~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQJEKmQHKV8

OH poo poo YR BOY MADE A RAP VIDEO

ps i love and miss you all :3

Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
i like your beard

An Enormous Boner
Jul 12, 2009

.

An Enormous Boner fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Sep 19, 2013

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

you posted some dumb poo poo and erased it :cawg:


sup my ninja you should make theme music for an ULTRAJUICER infomercial

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

MrMPH posted:

Passionate hip-hop producer here! Thought I would introduce myself. Ive been performing in the LA area for a little bit now.. pretty excited about where my sound is headed. Id love some feedback and looking forward to keep this movement going.

soundcloud.com/mrmph

fire dunny welcome

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic

Formal Bad posted:

Got off my rear end and started producing tracks again. Here's some stuff I've cooked up in the last few months:

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/two86

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/no-talk

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/aether

https://soundcloud.com/formalbad/the-hum

Slowly trying to move away from samples and use more synth in my songs.

also p good whats up man

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
Some of you guys are too loving good

http://snd.sc/1aNPSPA work in progress, not sure what to do about the chorus

An Enormous Boner
Jul 12, 2009

THNDRTHF posted:

you posted some dumb poo poo and erased it :cawg:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3505513&userid=52930

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Thoogsby
Nov 18, 2006

Very strong. Everyone likes me.
shots fired

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