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PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Shaggar posted:

altho that's some serious p-langer syntax so whatever it is probably cant even do transactions.

the style is unusual for the language, but I think it might actually be c++ syntax. don't know any other language that has both arrows and double-colon operators.

JewKiller 3000 posted:

he does it once in a while to make the other posts more believable

lol if you haven't realized shaggar is the best poster in yospos

# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:25

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# ? May 13, 2024 13:37

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

oh, you mean tests on the proxy consumer. right. my bad.

tef was right

i think i need to go and sit down

# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:34

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

PleasingFungus posted:

the style is unusual for the language, but I think it might actually be c++ syntax. don't know any other language that has both arrows and double-colon operators.

perl5

# ? Aug 27, 2013 17:49

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

PleasingFungus posted:

the style is unusual for the language, but I think it might actually be c++ syntax. don't know any other language that has both arrows and double-colon operators.

lol if you haven't realized shaggar is the best poster in yospos

it was C++

i've seen some poo poo

# ? Aug 27, 2013 19:24

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

Mido posted:

i've seen some poo poo

but enough about my posts

# ? Aug 27, 2013 19:24

hubris.height: Jan 6, 2005; Pork Pro

https://github.com/joescodebox/simpleballs

Python3 Pygame implementation of 4 balls bouncing around

problems: needs to calculate when something is out of bounds immediately instead of on its turn to draw
when things get fast it looks lovely (more lovely)
vectors are implemented but collisions dont test the angle to determine where to reflect the objects to

in short, this is a little work on the side every now and then and it really has made me realize i'm a poo poo programmer and need to keep working at it

# ? Aug 28, 2013 18:49

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

hubris.height posted:

in short, this is a little work on the side every now and then and it really has made me realize i'm a poo poo programmer and need to keep working at it

knowing is half the battle

# ? Aug 29, 2013 11:56

stoutfish: Oct 8, 2012; by zen death robot

i'm too dumb to learn c++ right now so i'm going back to python, litearlly the worst grammer

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:16

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

i switched to C++ for a project because python event driven gui is hell on earth

now i know what doublecolonoscopy means

also friend class. why does this exist

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:30

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

i want to make an object oriented thingy for my resume
but what if i really just want all globals?

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:31

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

i've got no leg to stand-on since my preferred python has this implicitly and also has global

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:33

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

MeruFM posted:

i switched to C++ for a project because python event driven gui is hell on earth

now i know what doublecolonoscopy means

also friend class. why does this exist

friend has saved my rear end when i've found myself in some awful contexts where i need circular class relationships ( :negative:

) but want to retain access control otherwise

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:37

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

now if only i had real friends

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:38

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

code:

class SomeResourceThing: public ResourceBase
{
public:
   SomeResourceThing():ResourceBase(NULL) { }
   ~SomeResourceThing() { }
private:
   virtual void DoASpecialThing() { };

   friend class ResourceManager; // hail satan this is probably a singleton !!!!
}

void ResourceManager::Fart(boost::shared_ptr<ResourceBase*> itarget)
{
    itarget->DoAThing();
}

kill me

dont do this

# ? Aug 29, 2013 19:52

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

singletons own in extremely rare circumstances

# ? Sep 2, 2013 16:58

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Singletons Rule Everything Around Me

# ? Sep 2, 2013 17:42

Socracheese: Oct 20, 2008

im coding c for the first time in a while for a class and its p cool that you get to be so explicit with ur bits and stuff but hoooo boy its a pain in the rear end to do stuff that would take 5 seconds in python

I started putting in a bunch of #define things to all the boilerplate stuff like for loops and traversing linked lists and then I realized I'm basically re-inventing lovely python

# ? Sep 2, 2013 17:45

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

Socracheese posted:

I started putting in a bunch of #define things to all the boilerplate stuff like for loops and traversing linked lists and then I realized I'm basically re-inventing every p-lang

# ? Sep 2, 2013 17:58

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

except Perl 6 thats why its not a piece of poo poo (or finished)

# ? Sep 2, 2013 17:59

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Socracheese posted:

I started putting in a bunch of #define things to all the boilerplate stuff like for loops and traversing linked lists and then I realized I'm basically re-inventing lovely python

because if there's one thing in c that's complicated and requires a lot of boilerplate code, it's for loops.

C code:


for(int i = 0; i < whatever; i++) {
        /* do something */
}

SO. MUCH. BOILERPLATE.

# ? Sep 2, 2013 19:15

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

Socracheese posted:

im coding c for the first time in a while for a class and its p cool that you get to be so explicit with ur bits and stuff but hoooo boy its a pain in the rear end to do stuff that would take 5 seconds in python

I started putting in a bunch of #define things to all the boilerplate stuff like for loops and traversing linked lists and then I realized I'm basically re-inventing lovely python

if youre going to do that you might as well use something like cello and just go crazy with type classes.

a c preprocessor with additional syntax for type classes would be p cool, actually.

# ? Sep 2, 2013 19:28

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

someone just needs to make a ruby that compiles all the way down to whatever the lowest thing is welp cya

# ? Sep 3, 2013 01:00

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Singletons are so bad. I've had conversations with coworkers that basically ended with them saying "I just want one so I need a singleton"
...
:eng99:

# ? Sep 3, 2013 01:09

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Doc Block posted:

because if there's one thing in c that's complicated and requires a lot of boilerplate code, it's for loops.
C code:
for(int i = 0; i < whatever; i++) {
        /* do something */
}
SO. MUCH. BOILERPLATE.

now iterate over elements in an array

that came from another function so you don't know the sizeof

# ? Sep 3, 2013 02:06

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

Cocoa Crispies posted:

now iterate over elements in an array

that came from another function so you don't know the sizeof

code:

if (array[i] == '\0') break;

# ? Sep 3, 2013 02:10

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Cocoa Crispies posted:

now iterate over elements in an array

that came from another function so you don't know the sizeof

that has nothing to do with him trying to eliminate the "boilerplate" of a for loop in C.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 03:49

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

Doc Block posted:

that has nothing to do with him trying to eliminate the "boilerplate" of a for loop in C.

it does if he's looping over an array he doesn't know the size of

# ? Sep 3, 2013 06:36

FamDav: Mar 29, 2008

i think that's the function from which he got the array's problem though

# ? Sep 3, 2013 06:38

ChiralCondensate: Nov 13, 2007; what is that man doing to his colour palette?; Grimey Drawer

MeruFM posted:

i switched to C++ for a project because python event driven gui is hell on earth

now i know what doublecolonoscopy means

also friend class. why does this exist

really? i kinda liked wxpython last time i used it

# ? Sep 3, 2013 06:47

Doc Block: Apr 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Stringent posted:

it does if he's looping over an array he doesn't know the size of

when did he mention traversing an array he doesn't know the size of? all he mentioned was using preprocessor defines on for loops and linked lists. he even said it turned out to be a dumb idea.

and

C code:

for(whatevertype *ptr = arrayptr; *ptr != NULL; ptr++) {
        /* whatever */
}

isn't any more code than any other for loop, and easily handles arrays of unknown size.

# ? Sep 3, 2013 10:39

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

Doc Block posted:

when did he mention traversing an array he doesn't know the size of? all he mentioned was using preprocessor defines on for loops and linked lists. he even said it turned out to be a dumb idea.

and
C code:
for(whatevertype *ptr = arrayptr; *ptr != NULL; ptr++) {
        /* whatever */
}
isn't any more code than any other for loop, and easily handles arrays of unknown size.

ya u document how the caller indicates the size/end of the array and after that it's on them if u try to scroll past the end of memory

# ? Sep 3, 2013 10:45

Mr SuperAwesome: Apr 6, 2011; im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

this is why when anyone says "oh yeah you can do useful poo poo in c" they are wrong and dumb and enjoy pain and all this stupid poo poo to make C behave like a normal language

# ? Sep 3, 2013 12:42

Mr SuperAwesome: Apr 6, 2011; im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

like C works great when you create a load of structures so you can use dot notation and stuff and basically make it like a normal language, apart from everything being really linuxy and stupid and lets stick some control characters all over the place to read and write poo poo thats a good idea.

and all this reinventing the wheel to use list/etc style structures in a sensible way

gently caress c basically

# ? Sep 3, 2013 12:44

a nest of hornets: Nov 17, 2012; by Ralp

Mido posted:

use singletons everywhere

everywhere

# ? Sep 3, 2013 13:11

NOTinuyasha: Oct 17, 2006; The Great Twist

Mido posted:

use singletons everywhere

everywhere

Do this

# ? Sep 3, 2013 16:04

PleasingFungus: Oct 10, 2012; idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Mr SuperAwesome posted:

like C works great when you create a load of structures so you can use dot notation and stuff and basically make it like a normal language, apart from everything being really linuxy and stupid and lets stick some control characters all over the place to read and write poo poo thats a good idea.

and all this reinventing the wheel to use list/etc style structures in a sensible way

gently caress c basically

c is portable assembly

set your expectations accordingly

# ? Sep 3, 2013 17:00

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Cocoa Crispies posted:

now iterate over elements in an array

that came from another function so you don't know the sizeof

#include <vector>

# ? Sep 3, 2013 17:16

a cyberpunk goose: May 21, 2007

code:

for ( std::list<Type>::iterator i = myList.begin() ; i != myList.end() ; i++ )

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Zlodo: Nov 25, 2006

you surely meant

for( auto& thing : myList )

# ? Sep 3, 2013 18:45

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# ? May 13, 2024 13:37

uG: Apr 23, 2003; by Ralp

surely c++ is the same as c

oh wait its std::poo poo

# ? Sep 3, 2013 18:49

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