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Bro Dad posted:Well I was skeptical at first, but they successfully made pacifism badass. This is actually a pretty good example of real, Gandhi-style pacifism in action. See, there's the kind of pacifism where you don't ever take a stand and hide behind the excuse that you're a pacifist, and then there's the kind of pacifism where you stand up, plant yourself on your own two feet and refuse to budge even if the other guy beats you to death.
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Forgot this thread existed. About a month ago Hox and Happy scans released Yasuhiko Yoshikazu's gorgeously illustrated "Alexandros - Dream for World Conquest." A biography of Alexander the Great. http://hoxtranslations.blogspot.com/2013/07/alexandros-dream-for-world-conquest.html
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The most recent Vinland Saga is amazing. Thorfinn is really going all the way with his new philosophy; it seems he's even finally understand what his father meant. Which means one thing: THORKELL NEEDS TO ENCOUNTER HIM AGAIN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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Zorak posted:The most recent Vinland Saga is amazing. Thorfinn is really going all the way with his new philosophy; it seems he's even finally understand what his father meant. I want to see Thorfinn surviving VVV Fine. VVV JosephWongKS fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Aug 27, 2013 |
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JosephWongKS posted:I want to see Thorfinn surviving 100 punches from Thorkell. It's a historic manga, not a fantasy manga, dude.
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Jackard posted:Wolfsmund is a trap Meanwhile Vinland Saga shows us how dark should be done.
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I love the emphasis on how solemn everyone gets as the count nears its end. It's a wonderful way to show that Thorfinn's commitment to his decision is rippling out around him and affecting those he interacts with. I can't wait to his the discussion with Canute in the next chapter.
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Guyver posted:Forgot this thread existed. Oh man this is fantastic, I actually teared up at the end.
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Zero_Tactility posted:I love the emphasis on how solemn everyone gets as the count nears its end. It's a wonderful way to show that Thorfinn's commitment to his decision is rippling out around him and affecting those he interacts with. I can't wait to his the discussion with Canute in the next chapter. I can't wait for that. poo poo pretty much HAS to hit the fan, because otherwise, they'd just all go to Vinland and be done with it. We still have to get a scene where Canute orders the sea to be whipped, after all!
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I didn't realize Thorkell the Tall was a real person until I read the Wikipedia article on Canute (actually spelled Cnut, haha). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorkell_the_Tall
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Say Nothing posted:I didn't realize Thorkell the Tall was a real person until I read the Wikipedia article on Canute (actually spelled Cnut, haha). I've always described Vinland Saga as "What the Dynasty Warriors game would be like if it was made into a comic and was about vikings instead" I think even Thorfinn is based on a real person. So is Leif if I remember correctly.
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Volume posted:I've always described Vinland Saga as "What the Dynasty Warriors game would be like if it was made into a comic and was about vikings instead" I think even Thorfinn is based on a real person. So is Leif if I remember correctly. Yep, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga is based on this Thorfinn who followed in Leif Erickson's, who is Leif in the manga, footsteps to the new world and attempted to create a permanent settlement on Newfoundland.
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tomanton posted:Spoiler alert: whenever this manga features a woman, she is subject to sexualized violence, and then murdered. Good lord, you weren't kidding. I literally don't think there was a single woman in the entire thing so far that hasn't been killed.
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Ytlaya posted:Good lord, you weren't kidding. I literally don't think there was a single woman in the entire thing so far that hasn't been killed.
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Ytlaya posted:Good lord, you weren't kidding. I literally don't think there was a single woman in the entire thing so far that hasn't been killed. Hey now...just because we haven't seen thorfinn's sister in a long time doesn't mean she's dead and I don't think she was ever sexually assaulted.
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Renzuko posted:Hey now...just because we haven't seen thorfinn's sister in a long time doesn't mean she's dead and I don't think she was ever sexually assaulted. Dunno if this post is supposed to be a joke or not, but in case it isn't, they mean characters in Wulfsmund, not Vinland Saga.
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The second chapter of Legend of Arslan by the author of Fullmetal Alchemist just dropped. For those unaware, its the story of the charismatic titular prince of Get it here: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Arslan-Senki-ARAKAWA-Hiromu
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Bro Dad posted:The second chapter of Legend of Arslan by the author of Fullmetal Alchemist just dropped. Arslan cannot catch a break with respect to being captured by enemies, can he?
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Wait, are they supposed to be a Roman/Byzantine type of thing? I'm not so sure, because the Lusitanians are mentioned to have attacked a nation that was also Manga Christian (Yaldabord?) and the Lusitanian kid decried that nation's "Eastern church", implying some sort of Great Schism. So it's "Maruyama" that is the Byzantine/Roman equivalent, I figure, and the Lusitanians are more like Franks/Western European/Catholic dudes. Cool-looking series anyway, I never quite got into Silver Spoon though I might try again sometime, so it's nice to see a new series from Hiromu Arakawa and the Sassanid Persian vibes are awesome. Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Wait, are they supposed to be a Roman/Byzantine type of thing? I'm not so sure, because the Lusitanians are mentioned to have attacked a nation that was also Manga Christian (Yaldabord?) and the Lusitanian kid decried that nation's "Eastern church", implying some sort of Great Schism. So it's "Maruyama" that is the Byzantine/Roman equivalent, I figure, and the Lusitanians are more like Franks/Western European/Catholic dudes. Lusitania is Byzantine Rome, Maruyama is Armenia, and Sassanid Persia had its own popular offshoot of Christianity there since the Council of Chalcedon (Church of the East, now called Nestorians or Antiochean Orthodox). Also I just looked up the book series Arslan is based on and found out the author also wrote LEGEND OF THE GALACTIC HEROES if you're still on the fence 
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Wait, are they supposed to be a Roman/Byzantine type of thing? I'm not so sure, because the Lusitanians are mentioned to have attacked a nation that was also Manga Christian (Yaldabord?) and the Lusitanian kid decried that nation's "Eastern church", implying some sort of Great Schism. So it's "Maruyama" that is the Byzantine/Roman equivalent, I figure, and the Lusitanians are more like Franks/Western European/Catholic dudes. There is practically an offshoot fork of Christianity for each of the Pentarchies. Coptics out of Alexandria, Syriac Christianity based from the former city of Antioch, commonly called Nestorian. Orthodox out of Constantinople and obviously the Catholics out of Rome. Jerusalem was added in as a historical nod to the city but it wasn't a major power player within the Faith. Within each of those main branches you get splinters and forks from the splinters, Cathars, Protestants being the most notable of the Catholic "heresies" Hell, I'm not a theologian but I can't even remember if Arianism and Calcedonism ever managed to get resolved. During the 400s Armenia was a Christian nation and Rome actually used the "we're the sole protector of all believers of the Faith" card to justify a war. I believe Emperor Constantine was literally was moving to the mustering point in Antioch for a campaign under these exact pretenses against the Persians when he died.
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So it looks like Shut Hell is updating again.       Time travel, body-swapping and Genghis Khan, oh my.
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Fuuuuccckk Yeeeessssss If that is true, you just made my day. Nah, the whole drat week, even.
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A Bride's Story chapter 32: Read Online / DDL Gotta say, kind of disappointed with this chapter.. Yeah there's drama with all the dudes getting merked left and right, but I think the action is pretty poorly laid out. I guess that's why Mori sticks to maids! Oh well.
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I'm amazed that the nomadic tribe didn't realize that charging into the town with all their warriors while the other shady militarized tribe sitting on the hills with artillery and way more armed men would be a bad idea. I mean the entire point of the attack is them going back on their deal to marry off Amira, abducting her by force from her husband, so she can be traded off to another tribe (who's groom has beaten 2 of his brides to death but cultural relativity blah blah blah) to gain some grazing fields or livestock. Does the idea that another clan would betray them when its advantageous not ever come up in the tribal council meetings or whatever?
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pentyne posted:I'm amazed that the nomadic tribe didn't realize that charging into the town with all their warriors while the other shady militarized tribe sitting on the hills with artillery and way more armed men would be a bad idea.
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Paracelsus posted:When someone really wants a shiny, and it's dangling right in front of them, they often don't stop to ask why it's dangling there. It's just odd that even with their back to the wall, they join up with a tribe being armed and funded by the Russians (the people trying to wipe out the nomads). Looking back and rereading the last few chapters it makes more sense (when they're months apart you forget the specifics). The Batan (cannon happy tribe) play up the 'blood' relations and pay lip service to all the old customs and traditions not even bothering to work out the specifics of the deal. The Halgal elder is obviously too consumed with getting back Amira to trade her off he just assumes blood=loyalty despite the Batan's current reputation (as Russian backed murderers). All the younger sons of the chief see through the phony friendly bullshit, would rather kill the Batan leader then deal, and they see the writing on the wall.  This would be the scene in an anime where they would emphasize the smiles and overeager grins on the Batan and show the growing unease of the Chief's sons. This manga hasn't really done anything terribly tragic and sad, so I doubt the village gets wiped out and most of the people murdered. Or maybe they will. Life was pretty terrible for the nomads and tribal villages in the run up to the Great War.
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Autonomous Monster posted:So it looks like Shut Hell is updating again. Chapter 26 In which Shut Hell bites a man to death. Again.
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Arslan has updated. I'd somehow managed to forget that this was based on a series by the Legend of the Galactic Heroes guy.
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pentyne posted:It's just odd that even with their back to the wall, they join up with a tribe being armed and funded by the Russians (the people trying to wipe out the nomads). Sometimes with your back up against the wall, even if the only path to survival is a very slim one, you need to take it. Even with misgivings and worries, what can you do? Sometimes you let yourself get played if you have no other option in the hopes that you can turn it to an advantage.
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Why would the nomads care about the Russians? It really makes no difference to them if they pay their taxes to St.Peterburg instead of to Istanbul. If they manage to increase their tribes herds or lands during the chaos of the war they are better of then before, else they aren't.
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Zorak posted:Sometimes with your back up against the wall, even if the only path to survival is a very slim one, you need to take it. Even with misgivings and worries, what can you do? Sometimes you let yourself get played if you have no other option in the hopes that you can turn it to an advantage. The conflict between the sons and the chieftain really make it clear that the sons have looked around and are seeing the world changing, not for the better for nomads, and other tribe is taking advantage of the chieftain's assumption of old traditions being honored and weak family ties meaning they'd never go back on a deal. It looks like if the eldest son survives he'll end up leading the tribe. He's been getting constantly shot down by his father even though his ideas are usually the best option available to them. tonberrytoby posted:Why would the nomads care about the Russians? The Russians are arming some tribes and encouraging them to wage war on others and wipe them out. Obviously the Russians will then come in armed with much better weapons and wipe out the scattered remainders.
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pentyne posted:The Russians are arming some tribes and encouraging them to wage war on others and wipe them out. Obviously the Russians will then come in armed with much better weapons and wipe out the scattered remainders.
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pentyne posted:I mean the entire point of the attack is them going back on their deal to marry off Amira, abducting her by force from her husband, so she can be traded off to another tribe In case anyone else is under this misconception, I'd like to say that, for the record, recovering Amira is officially a Fringe Benefit of the current invasion. When her brothers (and the Halgal) first showed up a while ago, they were certainly after her, and she WAS mentioned briefly in the negotiations with the Batan, but its explicitly stated (by Joruk when he meets Amira in the alley) that the point of THIS attack is to straight up bulldoze the joint for pastures. The fact that the Halgal had a grudge against them for protecting Amira is mostly used as a pretense. Sorry if that didn't come across clear enough in the translation. tonberrytoby posted:What if there is a suprise twist, and the current war turns out to be the 10th or 12th Russian/Ottoman war, instead of the 11th? Then western Europe supports Russia. Would that switch your sympathies? If you ask me, (which admittedly you haven't  ) I would say it doesn't really matter which outside powers agree with Russia or don't, since the Heroes Of Our Story are the tribes (nomadic or otherwise) that are generally suffering from Russia's machinations. Isn't it natural that our sympathies lie with them?
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Epoxy Bulletin posted:In case anyone else is under this misconception, I'd like to say that, for the record, recovering Amira is officially a Fringe Benefit of the current invasion. When her brothers (and the Halgal) first showed up a while ago, they were certainly after her, and she WAS mentioned briefly in the negotiations with the Batan, but its explicitly stated (by Joruk when he meets Amira in the alley) that the point of THIS attack is to straight up bulldoze the joint for pastures. The fact that the Halgal had a grudge against them for protecting Amira is mostly used as a pretense. Sorry if that didn't come across clear enough in the translation. I think it is pretty clear that the attackers are mainly in this war for land and loot.
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