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Zoness posted:Why would you do anything without a defiler? MORE DEEPS
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shut up gelly posted:MORE DEEPS Defilers are good for that though - you get more dps by cutting more healers. vvv You'd lose wild growth though. Defiler + LGV chloro for everything.
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Sep 4, 2013 19:19
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shut up gelly posted:MORE DEEPS Isn't Defiler + Warden more deeps than Warden + Chloro? (Assuming cleric dropping warden is running Shaman and mage dropping chloro runs Pyro). ^^^^^^ And yeah I guess Defiler + Chloro is more DPS than either combo.
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Sep 4, 2013 19:19
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Machai posted:It is. If you want to try it, try out a rogue or warrior melee spec (I don't know which ones are closest to harbinger, something w/o too many bleeds and stuff to keep track of) and pretend that your finishers don't come from building combo points but from a random proc instead. I may have to start playing my rogue again then, riftstalker was fun. I got him to level 50 and he was partially geared through experts when I quit the first time. Lately I've been playing a paragon warrior at about level 29, and it's been a blast, and harbinger looks to be relatively similar.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:10
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I'm trying to gear my rogue tank for experts. 9 runs of Empyrean Core / Tower later, not a single rogue tank piece has dropped and my patience is wearing thin. Should I bite the bullet and get a few pieces of blue crafted 60 gear? I suspect that when I run experts I'll quickly replace them and it seems like a waste.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:19
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Zoness posted:Defilers are good for that though - you get more dps by cutting more healers. it's more that our defiler wanted to do MORE DEEPS. raid dps isn't really a problem with one tank.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:22
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Smith Comma John posted:I'm trying to gear my rogue tank for experts. 9 runs of Empyrean Core / Tower later, not a single rogue tank piece has dropped and my patience is wearing thin. Should I bite the bullet and get a few pieces of blue crafted 60 gear? I suspect that when I run experts I'll quickly replace them and it seems like a waste. Helm, belt and the rings crafted. Buy toughness gear with slayer marks.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:22
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Try not to spend slayer marks until we find out what the conversion rate is going to be when 2.4 drops this month and frozen eclipse and slayer marks are combined into one currency.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:41
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SlayVus posted:Helm, belt and the rings crafted. Buy toughness gear with slayer marks.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:48
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anthonypants posted:I spent some Infinity Stone getting the rogue tanking chest and its first upgrade last night, was that a bad decision? Maybe, ideally you'd like to save the IS for essences and maybe things you can't get with marks, like shield or guns. If you still have a ways to go before you need more essences, it isn't a big deal tho.
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Sep 4, 2013 20:54
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Could someone do like a paragraph-or-less write up of what you actually get when you spend money on the game? The OP was written before F2P hit, and it acknowledges it but there's no succinct write up I have been able to google that isn't Trion's website which just encourages me to subscribe without going in depth on what I get for dropping a dime. Like, if I was a monthly subscriber would I still need to use Paid Currency Name to unlock bag slots, or do I get them? If I bought an expansion (boxed/digital/etc), what do I get? If I bought that but didn't subscribe, what do I get? I am enjoying the fact that so much of the game is truly open, but I'm also confused as to specifically what benefits I'll enjoy by subscribing vs Rex (?) vs buying a game copy, etc. I'm thinking more of in-game things, Trion has spelled out pretty well what you get for character slots, etc. Is there an agreed amount of dollars to spend to Get The Most out of the game if I dont give a flying gently caress about what color my mount is or if a magical turtle follows my character around?
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Sep 4, 2013 21:00
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Badfinger posted:Could someone do like a paragraph-or-less write up of what you actually get when you spend money on the game? The OP was written before F2P hit, and it acknowledges it but there's no succinct write up I have been able to google that isn't Trion's website which just encourages me to subscribe without going in depth on what I get for dropping a dime. Well Trion's model is to never block content through a paywall. Owning the original boxed copy (if you can find one to buy) will give you 6 char slots instead of 2, and 5 starting bag slots instead of 3. Owning the Storm Legion expansion gives you that plus the storm legion souls. All of that can be bought with credits in the store without finding a copy online. I am not sure how many credits it would take to unlock 2 bag slots, but the expansion souls come out to about 20 bucks. The souls are the closest thing to mandatory purchases, and the rest are pretty much just cosmetic or convenience. The brevanic portal generator is nice, wardrobe/bag/bank slots are nice, spending credits for the 150% mount instead of 1k plat is helpful. Subscribing gives you bonuses, but most of them are targeted toward level 60's. While you are leveling the notoriety and currency bonuses aren't a big deal. So I wouldn't worry about trying to find a game copy. Rex is just their way of people to buy credits with in game currency, but the exchange is high enough that it's not going to be viable until you are level 60. I'd recommend getting one month of patron while leveling for the experience bonus and the starter loyalty, but I'd put buying the sl souls above even buying patron.
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Sep 4, 2013 21:21
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Eltoasto posted:Well Trion's model is to never block content through a paywall. Owning the original boxed copy (if you can find one to buy) will give you 6 char slots instead of 2, and 5 starting bag slots instead of 3. Owning the Storm Legion expansion gives you that plus the storm legion souls. All of that can be bought with credits in the store without finding a copy online. I am not sure how many credits it would take to unlock 2 bag slots, but the expansion souls come out to about 20 bucks. The souls are the closest thing to mandatory purchases, and the rest are pretty much just cosmetic or convenience. The brevanic portal generator is nice, wardrobe/bag/bank slots are nice, spending credits for the 150% mount instead of 1k plat is helpful. Subscribing gives you bonuses, but most of them are targeted toward level 60's. While you are leveling the notoriety and currency bonuses aren't a big deal. I put in $50, got storm legion souls, a cheap mount, some role slots and a couple weekends of patron pass and I still have about half my credits left, that also gave me enough loyalty for a free portal generator. Their F2P model is actually really generous and I've never felt even a slight pay to win vibe. The Storm Legion souls so far have been more interesting gimmick than necessary for me so far; but maybe that changes post-50. A monthly subscription (same as patron pass) gives you some quality of life stuff like the ability to summon useful npcs and create a xp bonus potion once a day. I think you are better off just getting some credits and buying things as needed. kzin602 fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Sep 4, 2013 |
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Sep 4, 2013 22:08
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Not going to be around tonight, and I will be out of town all next week. Kill that Reg guy while I'm gone!
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Sep 4, 2013 23:00
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necrotic posted:Not going to be around tonight, and I will be out of town all next week. Kill that Reg guy while I'm gone! Just a reminder that this applies to me as well. Reggie better be on farm.
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Sep 4, 2013 23:30
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kzin602 posted:I put in $50, got storm legion souls, a cheap mount, some role slots and a couple weekends of patron pass and I still have about half my credits left, that also gave me enough loyalty for a free portal generator. Their F2P model is actually really generous and I've never felt even a slight pay to win vibe. The Storm Legion souls so far have been more interesting gimmick than necessary for me so far; but maybe that changes post-50. Harbinger is almost needed to solo as a mage post 50, Tempest is the only ranged soul for warriors (and raids hate melee), and Defiler and Tactician are extremely useful support for raid.
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Sep 5, 2013 00:17
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kzin602 posted:A monthly subscription (same as patron pass) gives you some quality of life stuff like the ability to summon useful npcs and create a xp bonus potion once a day. I think you are better off just getting some credits and buying things as needed. edit: pretty sure it's 2 loyalty points per credit purchased, then 2 loyalty points per credit spent.
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Sep 5, 2013 00:29
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Looking for a guild invite on Inarthis. tia!
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Sep 5, 2013 00:38
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I'll be late or absent tonight, too Have fun!
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Sep 5, 2013 01:29
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mr. nobody posted:Patron pass is better than subscribing in every way because you get loyalty points for both buying, and then for spending, credits. Subbing and passes give the same loyalty now. Elrar on 6/27 posted:Greetings Ascended!
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Sep 5, 2013 03:30
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Machai posted:Subbing and passes give the same loyalty now. I don't see how. Even if that change disables the loyalty earned from spending credits, you'd still have to buy that 2400 credits, which results in 4800 loyalty that you wouldn't get from just plain subbing.
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Sep 5, 2013 03:48
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Kyrosiris posted:I don't see how. Even if that change disables the loyalty earned from spending credits, you'd still have to buy that 2400 credits, which results in 4800 loyalty that you wouldn't get from just plain subbing. quote:Patron Passes available in the RIFT Store to grant 7,000 Loyalty total (the same for Patron subscribers), including the bonus Loyalty from spending the credits you used to purchase the pass. ^^^ The credits to purchase give you 4800 when purchased and would normally give you another 4800 when spent. If spent on a 30-day patron pass, they give you a 2200 spending bonus instead for a total of 4800 + 2200 = 7000 loyalty. If you are already a patron, you get a discount on store items so the pass is only 2160 credits so you get 7000-2*2160 = 2680 for spending the credits.
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Sep 5, 2013 04:04
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1:00:25 GA  it was at 37 minutes before pulling Ultane 
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Edit: Oops, wrong thread. goldjas fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Sep 5, 2013 04:25
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What? You mean 60? And what do you mean by retro world thing? The world event in Telara? If so, not really other than Ember Isle which is/was for raid-ish geared 50s for the most part (mostly lvl52 mobs) and is now kinda pointless and barren.
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Sep 5, 2013 04:33
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Vever tryin to get an invite!
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Zoness posted:1:00:25 GA aegis got their time down to 45 minutes. i'd be interested to see how many 4 waves they had in the last phase.
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Sep 5, 2013 09:13
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Why are the daily reset times so unfriendly, they don't happen until 8pm my time, what's wrong with midnight instead of noon :/
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Sep 5, 2013 10:05
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Betjeman posted:Why are the daily reset times so unfriendly, they don't happen until 8pm my time, what's wrong with midnight instead of noon :/ that would be peak time (7pm) for east coast and 4pm for west coast usa
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Sep 5, 2013 10:40
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Should I play on north america server? I'm in england but I imagine north America is more populated?
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shut up gelly posted:that would be peak time (7pm) for east coast and 4pm for west coast usa  At the moment it appears to be 12PM pacific and 3pm east coast. Is this wrong? WastedJoker posted:Should I play on north america server? I'm in england but I imagine north America is more populated? I'm in England as well, I didn't really check out whether EU servers are populated because I just joined the goon guild straight off. It seems to be populated 24 hours (lowest pop I've seen in the guild is 5). I'm not very high level but every zone event I've seen so far has been defeated. Also, I haven't seen any noticeable latency issues. Betjeman fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Sep 5, 2013 11:59
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Sweet. Downloading now.
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kzin602 posted:A monthly subscription (same as patron pass) gives you some quality of life stuff like the ability to summon useful npcs and create a xp bonus potion once a day. I think you are better off just getting some credits and buying things as needed. The patron's daily notoriety, favor, and prestige boosts are really handy, especially for more casual players. I can log in for 30 minutes, pop those 3 boosts, do my crafting dailies, ashora gathering turn-ins, and pvp dailies and advance considerably. Plus, daily artifacts!
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Betjeman posted:
na servers reset an hour ago, which is 4am server time
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Sep 5, 2013 13:00
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OK so it's a bug with /time, awesome.
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So I started a rogue because I wanted to be the closest thing I could think of to a hunter and I chose Huntsman to just make the game spend points for me (that's a hell of a feature). The whole hook of the game is that basically every class can fill every (or most) roles, right? So what I've gathered is that as a rogue I have potentially available multiple flavors of ranged dps and melee dps, a tank spec, and then the bard is a support healer/buff/damage role? I tried out bard yesterday and it was fun as poo poo. From the OP, cleric is really the only class that can just Do Everything and every other class has limitations one way or another? e: I forgot to ask, if I wanted to level as a bard am I hurting myself doing so? It seems like leveling is just dunce-easy, but after just shooting stuff for 25 levels, Barding was an interesting change. I am also amused by how the channels don't tether you, which is novel (for me). Double edit: I have already bought a second Role, so it's not like I'm not already going back and forth between them. Was mostly curious. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Sep 5, 2013 |
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Sep 5, 2013 14:26
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They all have limitations of sorts but cleric has more options as far as the trinity of dps/healing/tanking goes. This is meant to change next major patch/expansion as well, allowing all the classes to fill all the roles. Basically, it is the absolute best game to pick a class you enjoy the most and go with it and still have the option to do everything as far as roles go.
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Badfinger posted:So I started a rogue because I wanted to be the closest thing I could think of to a hunter and I chose Huntsman to just make the game spend points for me (that's a hell of a feature). Every class is lacking. Warriors can't heal, rogues can't heal, clerics can't support (like bards or archons), and mages can't tank. You aren't hurting yourself leveling as anything pre-50. You can at any point go to a trainer and respec as well as buy more roles to switch around whenever you want out of combat. If you like barding you may want to chuck some money at the game and get the new Storm Legion souls which will get you Tactician, another support spec that uses engineery stuff. Once you get to the new zones you'll probably need to switch to a more damaging spec than bard and work on survival more.
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It's been a looong time since I played bard (2011) but I found it became very uncompetitive for solo questing around level 20. The original bard was great, especially in warfronts, as the aoe heal wasn't restricted to 5 people, and then post-nerf it became a terrible spec, but they may have buffed it since then which would be great because it was pretty unique, both graphically and in behaviour.
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Oraculum Animi posted:Every class is lacking. Warriors can't heal, rogues can't heal, clerics can't support (like bards or archons), and mages can't tank. They're making souls that make up for those things that each class is lacking though! Clerics are also the less-preferred option for constant-throughput healing. Rather, we're way more useful (than chloros) for mitigation, spot heals, and massive AoE heals over a short time. Tairon posted:They all have limitations of sorts but cleric has more options as far as the trinity of dps/healing/tanking goes. This is meant to change next major patch/expansion as well, allowing all the classes to fill all the roles. Basically, it is the absolute best game to pick a class you enjoy the most and go with it and still have the option to do everything as far as roles go. Clerics don't have cost reduction in dungeons though
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