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Jedit posted:Ask instead how anyone could ever think any Camaro was cooler than a classic Volkswagen Beetle. gently caress product placement to death with a trowel, preferably an unbranded one. The issue is supposedly that Volkswagon didn't want to be associated with something so violent.
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muscles like this? posted:The issue is supposedly that Volkswagon didn't want to be associated with something so violent. 
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The opening titles for Four Rooms spoil the entire events of the movie. Seeing as how the entire point of the movis is that you never know what wacky adventure the bellhop is going to stumble into next it seems kind of disingenuous to tell you them up-front.Jedit posted:Ask instead how anyone could ever think any Camaro was cooler than a classic Volkswagen Beetle. gently caress product placement to death with a trowel, preferably an unbranded one. How dare they sully the integrity of my literal toy commercial with product placement 
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Well, that's why. "War toys? Sure, in the widest sense, but still, we'll pass. Not falling for that again thanks very much."
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CJacobs posted:The Mountain Dew machine turns into a Decepticon. I would never buy soda from an evil product, Michael Bay. Every machine the All Spark created was evil immediately. Not one of them was friendly. Who the gently caress builds a machine that makes rear end in a top hat machines?
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Kruller posted:Every machine the All Spark created was evil immediately. Not one of them was friendly. Who the gently caress builds a machine that makes rear end in a top hat machines? You have read the utterly magnificent CD thread on transformers, right?
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I mentioned this a dozen or so pages ago but it still bears repeating that the evil cube that makes evil machines kills the biggest/evilest machine at the end of the movie in the worst deus ex machina of all time. I was upset.
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Smiling Jack posted:You have read the utterly magnificent CD thread on transformers, right? I have not. Link?
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muscles like this? posted:The people who are trying to sell you the new version of the Camaro. I still contend that making Bumblebee into a sports car like that sort of took away from the charm of the character. I like the idea that one reason Bumblebee was one of the more 'human' Autobots because he was a smaller and more non-threatening than most the others. That's something that could have made him stand out a bit more in the films, too. Make Bumblebee into a small Transformer based off something like the Aveo or the Spark, for example, and work the character around that. Being smaller, he's got a totally different combat style that revolves around agility and speed, more akin to kung fu compared to everyone else.
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Esroc posted:
I, Robot takes place in 2035. Wearing stuff from 2010 doesn't seem more out of place than wearing stuff people were wearing in the Sixties or Seventies - which happens all the time. Converse look the way they look for about 100 years now, no reason to think they won't be something worn by people in 25 years. Hoodies, sweatshirts, ties, shirts, jackets, jeans, skirts, T-shirts, sundresses - all stuff which hasn't changed that much (besides small changes in cut, some short-lived fashion fads and use of artificial fibers here and there, getting more casual generally and shorter in terms of skirts) in the last 70-80 years. Not really unreasonable to think people still will wear these things - or recognizable version of them - in 30, 50 or 100 years. The shoes I wear today (dark-brown Budapester) could have been sold 50 or 150 years ago without looking out of place any more than they would today, except for the rubber sole. People wore M65-style jackets 40 years ago, today and probably still in 40 years. But yeah, it was mostly done for advertising. Because wearing 30 year old "vintage" Converse means wearing Converse where the glue is not doing its job of gluing stuff together any more. Converse aren't made for eternity. Or even two seasons. Decius has a new favorite as of 07:53 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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Kruller posted:Every machine the All Spark created was evil immediately. Not one of them was friendly. Who the gently caress builds a machine that makes rear end in a top hat machines? Please ignore the implications.
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Geokinesis posted:Film irritation: Also, when a film adaptation of a whodunit book is made, and all of the suspects are played by minor character actors except for the guilty one who is played by an Academy Award winner. Unfortunately, I can't give any examples without spoiling them.
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Brother Jonathan posted:Also, when a film adaptation of a whodunit book is made, and all of the suspects are played by minor character actors except for the guilty one who is played by an Academy Award winner. Unfortunately, I can't give any examples without spoiling them. Hot Fuzz's parody of the trend was brilliant, though.
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Sep 3, 2013 10:19
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Geokinesis posted:Film irritation: Seriously? In the Lincoln Rhyme novels, Rhyme is full on Aryan. For the movie of The Bone Collector they cast Denzel Washington, a man not known for his Slavic appearance. It worked fine.
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Jedit posted:Seriously? In the Lincoln Rhyme novels, Rhyme is full on Aryan. For the movie of The Bone Collector they cast Denzel Washington, a man not known for his Slavic appearance. It worked fine. Also, Amelia Sachs looks nothing like Angelina Jolie, and his assistant is Stephen Fry's Jeeves in Jude Law's body, not Queen Latifah.
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Brother Jonathan posted:Also, when a film adaptation of a whodunit book is made, and all of the suspects are played by minor character actors except for the guilty one who is played by an Academy Award winner. Unfortunately, I can't give any examples without spoiling them. It's even more ridiculous than that in TV shows like The Mentalist or Law & Order, because often the suspects will all be people who've had one-off or minor roles in a bunch of different stuff, but even then the most well-known one will more often than not be the criminal. The was a show on Australian television a few years ago called Sleuth 101 where a guest detective (a comedian or actor) had to investigate a crime where the suspects were played by different guest actors each week. One of the detectives actually used that as the basis for their accusation and was right.
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Geokinesis posted:It is British slang though. It's British slang from before the Revolutionary War, so it's also inherently American as well. I remember reading somewhere that many American pronunciations are in fact very old British pronunciations; we kept them and the Brits changed them. That might have something to do with it.
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Tiggum posted:It's even more ridiculous than that in TV shows like The Mentalist or Law & Order, because often the suspects will all be people who've had one-off or minor roles in a bunch of different stuff, but even then the most well-known one will more often than not be the criminal. CSI was really bad for this for the longest time. Here are the suspects: Person you have never seen before, Person you have never seen before, that guy who was in that thing, person you have never seen before. Every drat time it was the person you had seen in other things. I always assumed that they were being paid more as they were well known so the producers were getting their moneys worth by having them be the killer who has more screen time as they confess everything as soon as they are presented with the flimsiest forensic evidence. Either that or actors who are working regularly are more likely to audition for "Killer" than "Red Herring who reveals their alibi 10 minutes in and isnt refered to again". They did eventually wise up to it though, and getting more well known faces to occasionally be a red herring or the victim. As you say, the mentalist too. There was one episode where I guessed the killer in the first 5 minutes because none of the other characters were being played by Arthur from The Tick.
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Lotish posted:It's British slang from before the Revolutionary War, so it's also inherently American as well. Do you have a source for that? I'd be really interested in the history of it. Quebecois French is the same way -- in Quebec people use older pronunciations and old-fashioned variants of the language, while France-French has become much more globalized and has picked up a lot more English loan words. For instance in France you go and do the shopping while wearing your walkman, but in Quebec you go magasiner while wearing your baladeur. A bit like calling a refrigerator an "icebox" or the like.
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While we're bitching about Transformers, I want to bring up the fact that Qatar does not have any drat mountains. Or little oasis hamlets with Syrian ruins where the people wear a mix of Jordanian and Omani headware. I know no one in Hollywood cares, but portraying the Arabian Peninsula as some sort of wasteland where people drink from wells and ride around on camels is irritating to me. I saw that movie in Doha and it was all kinds of uncomfortable.
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Sagebrush posted:Do you have a source for that? I'd be really interested in the history of it. Quebecois French is the same way -- in Quebec people use older pronunciations and old-fashioned variants of the language, while France-French has become much more globalized and has picked up a lot more English loan words. For instance in France you go and do the shopping while wearing your walkman, but in Quebec you go magasiner while wearing your baladeur. A bit like calling a refrigerator an "icebox" or the like. I dont remember where anymore, but I've also read that American-English is much closer to what English was back when they originally left Britain, compared to today's British-English
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hyperhazard posted:I know no one in Hollywood cares, but portraying the Arabian Peninsula as some sort of wasteland where people drink from wells and ride around on camels is irritating to me. I saw that movie in Doha and it was all kinds of uncomfortable. It's less "not caring" and more understanding that your average ticket-buyer has no notion of what life outside of America is genuinely like, and if you showed them modern-day middle eastern cities (or west Asian ones, or...) they wouldn't connect. If you showed Egypt in a movie without showing sand and pyramids, there are a lot of American audiences that wouldn't understand it was Egypt. Funny thing, most of these people get their concept of other cultures from films. It's a cycle. A bad one.
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Slim Killington posted:It's less "not caring" and more understanding that your average ticket-buyer has no notion of what life outside of America is genuinely like, and if you showed them modern-day middle eastern cities (or west Asian ones, or...) they wouldn't connect. If you showed Egypt in a movie without showing sand and pyramids, there are a lot of American audiences that wouldn't understand it was Egypt. Apparently when Disney were making the Rescuers Down Under, they made "Australia" look much more like America than it should on purpose because they thought that if they tried to make the setting look like Australia actually looks, American audiences wouldn't believe it was a real place. I'd hope peoples' understanding of the world has come a long way since then but I have to agree the changes are probably on purpose rather than just not caring what specific countries look like.
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muscles like this? posted:The issue is supposedly that Volkswagon didn't want to be associated with something so violent. Despite the rest of the drek, I'm still miffed that in that Godawful Thunderbirds movie, Lady Penelope drove a souped-up, six-wheeled FORD instead of a Rolls.
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Sagebrush posted:Do you have a source for that? I'd be really interested in the history of it. Quebecois French is the same way -- in Quebec people use older pronunciations and old-fashioned variants of the language, while France-French has become much more globalized and has picked up a lot more English loan words. For instance in France you go and do the shopping while wearing your walkman, but in Quebec you go magasiner while wearing your baladeur. A bit like calling a refrigerator an "icebox" or the like. Bill Bryson goes into it in Made in America
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CJacobs posted:The Mountain Dew machine turns into a Decepticon. I would never buy soda from an evil product, Michael Bay. DISPENSOR wasn't evil. He was curing thirst, with EXTREME attitude. Jedit posted:Seriously? In the Lincoln Rhyme novels, Rhyme is full on Aryan. For the movie of The Bone Collector they cast Denzel Washington, a man not known for his Slavic appearance. It worked fine. Not to mention Queen Latifa as the nurse, who in the book was a small, white, gay man.
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kizudarake posted:Also, Amelia Sachs looks nothing like Angelina Jolie, and his assistant is Stephen Fry's Jeeves in Jude Law's body, not Queen Latifah. Ahem.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:DISPENSOR wasn't evil. He was curing thirst, with EXTREME attitude. Yeah, we don't blame babies for pissing and making GBS threads on everything and/or everyone nearby right after they're born.
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The fact of the matter is that Mountain Dew is radioactive horse urine and tastes as such, so something that blasts people with cans of that stuff has to be evil no matter what his intentions may appear to be.
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Since we were talking about countries in movies and in reality, here's Chile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7gcXAPjWp4
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Esroc posted:It bugs me in movies that take place in the future where the main character has some kind of obsession with what would be considered to them as ancient culture. Most recently Oblivion did this and I, Robot did as well. I'm going to drag this up to say that I actually had the JVC stereo that appears in I, Robot (complete with awesome "cylindrical speakers" that were just regular speakers in a round cabinet), and that thing was the poo poo. I bought it at least 2 years before the film as well so I was clearly setting a trend that lasted ~50 years. Decius posted:I, Robot takes place in 2035. Wearing stuff from 2010 doesn't seem more out of place than wearing stuff people were wearing in the Sixties or Seventies - which happens all the time. Converse look the way they look for about 100 years now, no reason to think they won't be something worn by people in 25 years. When Elsysium came out there was an incredibly whiny comment article in the paper about "why sci fi has no vision anymore" which complained that in Elysium there was no "vision" because how are we supposed to believe people still wear suits in the future? It also complained that the Fifth Element had the same problem which is a giant  because I don't see many muscle guys in tiny shorts and guys in leopard print body suits in my day to day life, but then maybe I'm just going to the wrong places as I don't have a flying asian guy coming to the window of my 500th floor house and giving me dim sum either.
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Non Serviam posted:Since we were talking about countries in movies and in reality, here's Chile: Also, every major metropolitan area in America does not actually look like Toronto.
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I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I think all AllSpark-accidentally-made transformers weren't supposed to be considered evil, just amoral as a result of going from Unthinking Machine to Suddenly Sentient Machine Organism.
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MisterBibs posted:I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but I think all AllSpark-accidentally-made transformers weren't supposed to be considered evil, just amoral as a result of going from Unthinking Machine to Suddenly Sentient Machine Organism. The problem with that is, Section 7 tried communicating with the newly created ones for decades. Every last one was a dickhead and had to be destroyed. I mean, they come out of the box loaded with weapons! Every time! A loving cell phone was firing missiles!
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Well, to be fair, if you were born with automatic weaponry, wouldn't YOU shoot everything until someone taught you not to? Why would they listen to squishy things that can't even change shape or even have built in weaponry?
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KoB posted:I dont remember where anymore, but I've also read that American-English is much closer to what English was back when they originally left Britain, compared to today's British-English Specifically, inland American English, like midwest or so. Coastal dialects picked up more of the same linguistic shifts that British English did. Hilariously, this means that if you want to get as close as possible to historical delivery of Shakespeare, you might want to get your actors from small town Iowa or something. Once you know this, historical characters always having hyper-British accents might become an irrational irritation.
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I think it was a 70's movie, but it was called Orca, and was either supposed to do battle with the fans of Jaws or try to reel people in with the idea of a murderous Shamu. Since my mom had pissed herself in the theater after seeing Jaws for the first time, she rented Orca for us kids to watch at home. A movie about a man who decides to capture an orca and sell it to an aquarium, and the orca's mate's revenge against him. What shocked me even as a kid is the fact that the greedy dude decides the best way to capture, and bring into captivity, a live orca...is to shoot it with a loving harpoon. Literally a harpoon, like the ones used to kill whales in the past. Not only does he skewer a loving orca in the side, but they drag the animal out of the water, so it's hanging upside down in the air (where the movie shows us a very bloody orca miscarriage. I poo poo you not.). This is an animal the dude needs alive and in good condition. Why the gently caress was he shooting at it with a goddamn harpoon, and plan to keep it hoisted in the air like a goddamn trophy while they took it to the aquarium?
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I saw Orca in the theater when it first came out, I still vividly remember that miscarriage scene.  You're right, it was marketed as a movie that could outgross (in all senses) the hit of the previous summer, Jaws; there was a lot of controversy at the time over how gory Jaws was, but Orca was also boring and mean-spirited. I think they got in trouble for mistreating the whales they used in shooting as well. On the flipside, a more realistic aborted whale fetus has yet to appear on film. 
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