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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
I loved Ip Man as a movie, but the fact that it was based on one of the most beloved real-life martial arts masters of all time, I just wished they would've left out the wire-fu stuff. Not that there was a ton of it, mind you, but it sort of cheapens his memory when you start attributing fantastical, supernatural martial arts abilities to him, when his grounded, real-life abilities would've been impressive enough.

Sequel was okay, but the whole plot involving the british and their champion boxer was dumb as gently caress and handled poorly.

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Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

The Time Dissolver posted:

Any fans in here of the godawful evil-hacker flick .com for Murder? Guest starring Roger Daltrey and Huey Lewis!!

Man, the guy's little Egyptian eye tattoo gets me every time.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

david_a posted:

Did anyone else have some weird 'frame doubling' problems in Dredd? Some of the time the picture was sharp and motion looked fine; other times, it seemed like the frames bled into each other (note the gun in the back, assuming you can pry your eyes away from Wig Goon :allears:):

It didn't look like interlacing since I didn't see any lines. Was it just the stream degrading? I seem to remember some PQ issues in the theater as well...

I saw a featurette about Dredd before it came out, it was filmed in 3d, I believe they used 2 RED cameras and made the 2d from digitally combining the two perspectives so it might be a leftover artifact. Basically they intended 3d as the 'true' format for it, as opposed to digitally shoehorning 3d into a 2d movie like most other CGI movies released at the same time. I'm also not a cinematographer, so I'm probably also wrong.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Egbert Souse posted:

Goldfinger is awesome, but From Russia with Love and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are the two Great films of the 60s Bonds. Sure Goldfinger is the most entertaining, but those two are phenomenal for a tight, believable story, stunning photography, and no nonsense editing.

I don't think great filmmaking came back to Bond until Casino Royale and Skyfall. Although, The Spy who Loved Me is close to Goldfinger fun.

You Only Live Twice looks amazing even if it could be tighter in story. As if anything shot by Freddie Young wouldn't look amazing.

Look at this scrub who forgot about Moonraker :smug:

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

red19fire posted:

I saw a featurette about Dredd before it came out, it was filmed in 3d, I believe they used 2 RED cameras and made the 2d from digitally combining the two perspectives so it might be a leftover artifact. Basically they intended 3d as the 'true' format for it, as opposed to digitally shoehorning 3d into a 2d movie like most other CGI movies released at the same time. I'm also not a cinematographer, so I'm probably also wrong.

For 2D, I would assume they simply use one of the frames, instead of combining the two separate frames.

I mean, it's space pens vs pencils.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I really don't know too much about how the new digital 3D stuff works in post-production, so this might be me talking out of my rear end.

Is it possible that there's an issue where when the two original 2D streams are combined to make the 3D stream that the process does minor alterations to each 2D frame to assist with the 3D look?

Then, if you pull a single one of those streams out, you're not getting the original 2D stream but an altered 2D stream that was formatted to work with an additional 2D frame backing it up?

No reason to do this, though, if you already have an unaltered 2D frame. Unless, there's something about the way computer tweaking/effects are done in post-production for 3D movies that it's easier to pull an altered 2D stream than do effects specifically for one of the originals?

Like I said, likely completely off since I'm not an expert on the subject.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

The Comedy and Half Baked are both good movies, but for very different reasons.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Inudeku posted:

The Rundown was such a fun movie. I'm surprised I haven't seen it before.

Yeah, it's always been my fun secret movie. I've bought it on DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray. It's a really fun film. It's a shame The Rock's other early fun movie, Walking Tall, isn't available on Netflix.

Inudeku
Jul 13, 2008

Der Shovel posted:

Yeah, it's always been my fun secret movie. I've bought it on DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-ray. It's a really fun film. It's a shame The Rock's other early fun movie, Walking Tall, isn't available on Netflix.

I mean, who the hell could NOT love The Rock forearm smashing concrete pillars and wooden support beams to collapse roofs. Or dual weird pump shotguns. :black101:

foodfight
Feb 10, 2009
Resolution is up! :toot: Been wanting to see this for months.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Inudeku posted:

I mean, who the hell could NOT love The Rock forearm smashing concrete pillars and wooden support beams to collapse roofs. Or dual weird pump shotguns. :black101:

It was a fun movie. "I don't like guns." *later uses guns in a fantastically choreographed scene, one of the best outside of Shoot Em Up*

Parachute
May 18, 2003
Also...Neal loving McDonough

Cocoa Ninja
Mar 3, 2007

JediTalentAgent posted:

I really don't know too much about how the new digital 3D stuff works in post-production, so this might be me talking out of my rear end.

Is it possible that there's an issue where when the two original 2D streams are combined to make the 3D stream that the process does minor alterations to each 2D frame to assist with the 3D look?

Then, if you pull a single one of those streams out, you're not getting the original 2D stream but an altered 2D stream that was formatted to work with an additional 2D frame backing it up?

No reason to do this, though, if you already have an unaltered 2D frame. Unless, there's something about the way computer tweaking/effects are done in post-production for 3D movies that it's easier to pull an altered 2D stream than do effects specifically for one of the originals?

Like I said, likely completely off since I'm not an expert on the subject.

The streams aren't actually combined. They're kept separate as "right" and "left" eye streams. This separation of eyes is maintained throughout the whole process up to projection / display on your home TV or in a theater. Then, it's either split up line by line between left and right eyes, where line 1, 3, 5 and so on are left eye, 2, 4, 6 and so on are right eye, and your glasses filter them appropriately for each eye. The other technique is to run double the normal number of frames and alternate left-right, with your glasses again filtering the content.

The 2D frame you're viewing on Netflix wouldn't be a combination of the two frames, it'd just be either the left or the right eye, perhaps different from shot to shot but more likely just a single eye for the entire movie.

I'm almost positive that the haziness that everyone is mentioning is because they did re-shoots on green screen. The compositing was probably less noticeable in 3D, but when you break out each angle individually it's very apparent. This is kind of what you're saying — the effecting is meant to work in service of two 2D frames interacting with each other rather than be convincing as a stand-alone. And you are also correct that certain elements of how the 2D images are combined to create the 3D image can be fudged to change the way that focus and conversion of the eyes works, but I don't know much beyond that.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

I loved Ip Man as a movie, but the fact that it was based on one of the most beloved real-life martial arts masters of all time, I just wished they would've left out the wire-fu stuff. Not that there was a ton of it, mind you, but it sort of cheapens his memory when you start attributing fantastical, supernatural martial arts abilities to him, when his grounded, real-life abilities would've been impressive enough.

Sequel was okay, but the whole plot involving the british and their champion boxer was dumb as gently caress and handled poorly.

The real Ip Man was a police officer (and opium addict) who ran a pretty successful Wing Chun school in Hong Kong. He was not a professional fighter, he never fought against an evil Japanese general's prize karateka for the pride of China, and he never had to work in a coal mine because of wartime hardships. The entire thing is fantasy; it's a little strange to focus just on the fight choreography for being "unrealistic".

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



One of you guys has to watch Branded so we can talk about it because :froggonk:

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

weekly font posted:

One of you guys has to watch Branded so we can talk about it because :froggonk:

Hi, saw Branded in the theatre. What's up?

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

I'm not listening
to youuuuu...

weekly font posted:

One of you guys has to watch Branded so we can talk about it because :froggonk:

I saw Branded in theaters.

I can't remember when I realized I was watching something truly insane. Was it the bonkers reality show stuff with Jeffrey Tambor? Was it when the dude sacrifices a cow and then bathes in its blood? Or was it when the cowstellation winked at me?

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Jay Dub posted:

I saw Branded in theaters.

I can't remember when I realized I was watching something truly insane. Was it the bonkers reality show stuff with Jeffrey Tambor? Was it when the dude sacrifices a cow and then bathes in its blood? Or was it when the cowstellation winked at me?

Tambor is in this? I'm sold.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009

I'm not listening
to youuuuu...

Chichevache posted:

Tambor is in this? I'm sold.

NOW look what I've done!

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

Finally watched Requiem for a Dream, one of those movies that everyone else has seen but could never take the time to watch yourself. I honestly had no idea what it was about other than people always quoting it for the "rear end to rear end" scene. It was pretty good, but it's so hard watching these kinds of iconic movies a decade or more after everyone has spoofed them or ripped them off. I watched Equilibrium a few months back, and it was the same. Having heard that stupid Requiem theme song about a million times in the past 13 years did make quite a few of those scene unbearable, I mean, did they need that theme song in every emotional scene? I swear it played ten separate times throughout the film.

Alfred P. Pseudonym
May 29, 2006

And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss goes 8-8

Khorne Flakes posted:

Finally watched Requiem for a Dream, one of those movies that everyone else has seen but could never take the time to watch yourself. I honestly had no idea what it was about other than people always quoting it for the "rear end to rear end" scene. It was pretty good, but it's so hard watching these kinds of iconic movies a decade or more after everyone has spoofed them or ripped them off. I watched Equilibrium a few months back, and it was the same. Having heard that stupid Requiem theme song about a million times in the past 13 years did make quite a few of those scene unbearable, I mean, did they need that theme song in every emotional scene? I swear it played ten separate times throughout the film.

I know it's pretty but they didn't take it out for air

Parachute
May 18, 2003
Whoa, how long has People Under the Stairs been up? If you've never seen it, I highly recommend it - it's top tier Wes Craven, imo. This goes double for anyone who also happens to be a Twin Peaks fan.

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.

Parachute posted:

Whoa, how long has People Under the Stairs been up? If you've never seen it, I highly recommend it - it's top tier Wes Craven, imo. This goes double for anyone who also happens to be a Twin Peaks fan.

It's Wes Craven making an amazing John Carpenter movie.

One of my absolute favorites.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Khorne Flakes posted:

Finally watched Requiem for a Dream, one of those movies that everyone else has seen but could never take the time to watch yourself. I honestly had no idea what it was about other than people always quoting it for the "rear end to rear end" scene. It was pretty good, but it's so hard watching these kinds of iconic movies a decade or more after everyone has spoofed them or ripped them off. I watched Equilibrium a few months back, and it was the same. Having heard that stupid Requiem theme song about a million times in the past 13 years did make quite a few of those scene unbearable, I mean, did they need that theme song in every emotional scene? I swear it played ten separate times throughout the film.

Actually, part of the problem is how neither of those films are very good to begin with. Requiem is by far Aronofsky's low point and the worst example of him letting his creepy regressive politics out in a film, and Equilibrium is largely embarrassing.

Samfucius posted:

It's Wes Craven making an amazing John Carpenter movie.

One of my absolute favorites.

I had a big argument (not really) with a guy once about how this was not, in fact, a Carpenter film when we were trying to think of all the films in his unimpeachable 70s and 80s super run. You're right though, it almost is. It doesn't look as good as even a lower level Carpenter though.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Khorne Flakes posted:

Finally watched Requiem for a Dream, one of those movies that everyone else has seen but could never take the time to watch yourself. I honestly had no idea what it was about other than people always quoting it for the "rear end to rear end" scene. It was pretty good, but it's so hard watching these kinds of iconic movies a decade or more after everyone has spoofed them or ripped them off. I watched Equilibrium a few months back, and it was the same. Having heard that stupid Requiem theme song about a million times in the past 13 years did make quite a few of those scene unbearable, I mean, did they need that theme song in every emotional scene? I swear it played ten separate times throughout the film.
JUICE BY KHORNE FLAKES
JUICE BY KHORNE FLAKES
OHHHHH KHORNE FLAKES!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

DeimosRising posted:

Actually, part of the problem is how neither of those films are very good to begin with. Requiem is by far Aronofsky's low point

The Wrestler and Black Swan are both considerably worse. Particularly The Wrestler.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Yeah, I've seen all of Darren Aronofsky's films and The Wrestler is by far the weakest one of all of them. It's an alright movie I guess, but I've watched it a grand total of once and never felt the need to watch it again, unlike Requiem which is one of my all-time favorite movies and I've seen that one probably 10+ times. Runner up is Pi and I've seen that one at least 5 times.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Yeah, I've seen all of Darren Aronofsky's films and The Wrestler is by far the weakest one of all of them. It's an alright movie I guess, but I've watched it a grand total of once and never felt the need to watch it again, unlike Requiem which is one of my all-time favorite movies and I've seen that one probably 10+ times. Runner up is Pi and I've seen that one at least 5 times.

Well, I'm of the exact opposite opinion. I think Darren Aronofsky is so much better when he's being low-key and dials back the moodiness. I didn't really like Pi all that much and thought Requiem for a Dream was really heavy-handed. Requiem felt like if David Lynch (and not good David Lynch) got caught with a DUI and was forced to make a feature-length PSA about substance abuse.

The Wrestler is still one of my favorite movies, and Black Swan was... good. Not really amazing but I enjoyed it, just quite a bit less than The Wrestler.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I think Requiem is a great movie, and so is The Wrestler and so is Black Swan. Aaronofsky's got showmanship and audacity. These are good things.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
Of Aronofsky's movies, I've seen Pi, Requiem, and Black Swan, and my only major complaint between the three is the way the migraine scenes were handled in Pi - they threatened to give me a headache. This may have been the whole point, but a film shouldn't induce physical pain like that.

Aronofsky's got tons of style, and I'm eager to see what he does with Noah.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Slate Action posted:

Of Aronofsky's movies, I've seen Pi, Requiem, and Black Swan, and my only major complaint between the three is the way the migraine scenes were handled in Pi - they threatened to give me a headache. This may have been the whole point, but a film shouldn't induce physical pain like that.

Aronofsky's got tons of style, and I'm eager to see what he does with Noah.

I haven't seen Requiem yet, but I have to disagree with you. I think making you really feel extremes like that can be an excellent tool. During Melancholia I felt a similar sense of inevitability and dread as the character's did, and it really adds to the experience. Not every film benefits from it, but when used right I love the effect.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx

Chichevache posted:

I haven't seen Requiem yet, but I have to disagree with you. I think making you really feel extremes like that can be an excellent tool. During Melancholia I felt a similar sense of inevitability and dread as the character's did, and it really adds to the experience. Not every film benefits from it, but when used right I love the effect.

I'm not talking about 'this movie had unpleasant scenes that gave me a headache' or 'this movie had an oppressive atmosphere.' Those things are fine, and I welcome them, at least in principle. At various moments while watching Pi, sounds came out of the TV speakers that made me feel like a spike was being driven through my brain. It was one of the worst 'nails on a chalkboard' effects I've ever felt. It must vary in intensity from person to person.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...
I thought the Wrestler was pretty boring despite growing up watching wrestling and it having a Bruce Springsteen song in it. Black Swan and Reqium and The Fountain are all great though, in different ways.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

That was the point ;) I mean, the movie ends with the main character taking a power drill to his own skull because he's obsessed with numbers and they've taken over his life and he needs to stop thinking about them. And the whole movie is about how he gets to that point. It's not supposed to make you fee all warm and fuzzy inside.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

FishBulb posted:

I thought the Wrestler was pretty boring despite growing up watching wrestling and it having a Bruce Springsteen song in it. Black Swan and Reqium and The Fountain are all great though, in different ways.

Well, The Wrestler isn't really about wrestling, in the sense that I wouldn't imagine a wrestling fan would have any reason to enjoy it more than a non-fan.

FishBulb
Mar 29, 2003

Marge, I'd like to be alone with the sandwich for a moment.

Are you going to eat it?

...yes...

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Well, The Wrestler isn't really about wrestling, in the sense that I wouldn't imagine a wrestling fan would have any reason to enjoy it more than a non-fan.

Next you'll tell me having a single song by a favorite musician over the credits shouldn't influence my opinion either?!?

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

FishBulb posted:

Next you'll tell me having a single song by a favorite musician over the credits shouldn't influence my opinion either?!?

That too!

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Hi, saw Branded in the theatre. What's up?

I've never seen a movie that muddled its messages so much. Advertising is bad so kill it with advertising (until there is no more advertising?). Stalin was the first advertiser but advertisement breeds capitalism! I might have some of this wrong but it was without a shadow of a doubt the most baffling film I've ever seen in so many ways. Also one of the worst edited. Also LeeLee Sobieski.

And oh my god Max von Sydow's last scene. :lol:

DIEGETIC SPACEMAN
Feb 25, 2007

fuck a car
i'll do a mothafuckin' walk-by

Inudeku posted:

The Rundown was such a fun movie. I'm surprised I haven't seen it before.

I gave this a shot today, and... it's not that fun. It's definitely not a bad movie. It's entertaining for the most part, the Rock and Christopher Walken are perfect for their roles (Walken's tooth fairy speech made the movie worthwhile), and Rosario Dawson and Sean William Scott hold her own. But dear god, the comic relief bits with Scott are just bad. They drag the whole thing down. If Beavis and Butt-head weren't fictional characters, I'd swear they wrote the monkey scene.

This was the first movie I've seen the Rock in since Be Cool, and if those two are any indication he's a surprisingly good actor. I might have to give Walking Tall a shot now.

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Bolek
May 1, 2003

DeimosRising posted:

Actually, part of the problem is how neither of those films are very good to begin with. Requiem is by far Aronofsky's low point and the worst example of him letting his creepy regressive politics out in a film
What are you referring to here specifically?

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