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lotus circle posted:I doubt Aranea would be able to control any of the kids if HIC can't, but time will tell I suppose. On the other hand, if she flat out read minds she'd notice something was up with Damara (probably all of them) long ago.
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I'm guessing Aranea notices the symbol on Jane's tiara, puts her to sleep, and nabs it. That gets )-(IC's attention, and poo poo goes south from there.
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Sep 5, 2013 02:48
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Man, Hussies been making a lot of art mistakes lately, hasn't he? He forgot Gamzee's scars, he forgot to change Aranea's sprite to have living eyes and now he's forgotten to show the ring being on her finger in this update. The Big Man's getting sloppy.
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Sep 5, 2013 03:37
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Nephthys posted:Man, Hussies been making a lot of art mistakes lately, hasn't he? He forgot Gamzee's scars, he forgot to change Aranea's sprite to have living eyes and now he's forgotten to show the ring being on her finger in this update. It reminds me of early Act 5 when he would constantly forget to draw horns on the trolls. 
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Sep 5, 2013 03:46
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Nephthys posted:Man, Hussies been making a lot of art mistakes lately, hasn't he? He forgot Gamzee's scars, he forgot to change Aranea's sprite to have living eyes and now he's forgotten to show the ring being on her finger in this update. Doesn't he already have an excuse for all these 'glitches'/
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Sep 5, 2013 04:02
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Cabbit posted:I'm guessing Aranea notices the symbol on Jane's tiara, puts her to sleep, and nabs it. That gets )-(IC's attention, and poo poo goes south from there. She'll probably be immune to Scorpio powers due to the tiara or some kind of handwavy easy write-off.
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Sep 5, 2013 04:12
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Bongo Bill posted:John isn't even limited to canon. He can enter works of fiction; he was literally inside Con Air. Nowhere in Homestuck is barred to him. What are you talking about? That's Johnny, Cameron Poe's scrappy teen sidekick, who assists the gold-hearted ex-con using his trusty hammer and his mysterious knowledge of what's about to happen. I'll admit Johnny's not the most popular character (I don't think the actor ever got another part) but c'mon, he's always been there. Right? 
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Sep 5, 2013 04:33
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This has been the best series of updates for me. I almost kind of want an avatar of the DRAMATIC FISH LIPS.
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Sep 5, 2013 04:42
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Jesus Christ Karkat, that's kind of brutal even if you do need to eat. 
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Sep 5, 2013 04:43
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Those hummingbirds had it coming.
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Boneless Jogger posted:Those hummingbirds had it coming. Shame all the tinkerbulls got left behind when they started the session. Bet those guys are good eating.
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Action Shakespeare posted:This has been the best series of updates for me.  let me tell ya about homestuck
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Sep 5, 2013 05:04
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Seoinin posted:The most satisfying resolution to Vriska's arc would to be for her to open one of those hipster bistros where the waitstaff is allowed & encouraged to be openly aggro towards the patrons as part of the ~*experience*~. Act 7 will be the pilot for a sitcom based on this premise. The launching point for Homestuck: The Animated Series that we've all been waiting for.
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Hremsfeld posted:Not really sure if it came out any decent, but: I think you mean let me shell ya bout homestuck
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Sep 5, 2013 05:16
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Karkat asking why no one ever thought to just call the ghosts is pretty funny. It's true, I didn't think anything of it when Meenah phoned now-alive Aranea, but apparently the ghosts are pesterable? I'm guessing Hussie just made it so for plot convenience, but drat, that kinda opens up a lot of possibilities.
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Dolash posted:Karkat asking why no one ever thought to just call the ghosts is pretty funny. It's true, I didn't think anything of it when Meenah phoned now-alive Aranea, but apparently the ghosts are pesterable? Well, there is precedence: Aradia was able to communicate and poo poo when she was dead, and the Trolls were able to communicate with the kids even before they managed to enter the session.
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Filthy Haiku posted:Jesus Christ Karkat, that's kind of brutal even if you do need to eat. I thought it was kinda cute, Karkat all sittin' by the campfire, cookin' up a meal. Besides, maybe hummingbirds are like troll marshmallows or something. 
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Bell_ posted:Well, there is precedence: Aradia was able to communicate and poo poo when she was dead, and the Trolls were able to communicate with the kids even before they managed to enter the session. But Aradia was actually a ghost haunting the world of the living, rather than being in a dream bubble - she interacted with a computer in the real world in order to pester Sollux and the others. The Trolls were alive, too, it just seemed that Sburb had computers that let you communicate across universes. Considering the dream bubbles are made up of people's memories, it's strange that their memory of devices that let them communicate across universes is enough to let them communicate across universes. Maybe no one thought to try. But then it looks like the Damaras still in the dream bubbles can use their telekinesis to move something in the real world, so who even knows?
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Dolash posted:But Aradia was actually a ghost haunting the world of the living, rather than being in a dream bubble - she interacted with a computer in the real world in order to pester Sollux and the others. The Trolls were alive, too, it just seemed that Sburb had computers that let you communicate across universes. Considering the dream bubbles are made up of people's memories, it's strange that their memory of devices that let them communicate across universes is enough to let them communicate across universes. Maybe no one thought to try. But then it looks like the Damaras still in the dream bubbles can use their telekinesis to move something in the real world, so who even knows? Well, the horrorterrors do have all those servers in the furthest ring...
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Dolash posted:Karkat asking why no one ever thought to just call the ghosts is pretty funny. It's true, I didn't think anything of it when Meenah phoned now-alive Aranea, but apparently the ghosts are pesterable?
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I love that every update is just a "Vriska/Serket is fat" joke.
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^ e: God drat it. The problem is significant in size? I guess Arenea shares Vriska's girth.
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Close-ups on mouths have apparently become a running gag now.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:55
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This is even more zoomed in than the last time we saw Jane. At this rate, we'll be looking at the space between the tongue and those two front teeth by sometime in mid-October.
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Wyld Karde posted:Update! Jane looks pissed. HIC cannot control Jane without the brainwashing device in her headband. Troll powers of mind control do not work on humans, they just make them fall asleep. They do work on trolls, though, and both HIC and Aranea are trolls. So #1 if Aranea wants to control Jane, she has to control the Condesce first. And #2 if the Condesce wants to prevent Aranea from loving up her plans, she can simply control her. The expected result of #1+#2.
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I don't think HIC just got punked like the wicked witch of the east. I think.
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The fact that HIC drove Jade grimbark suggests she does have some power over humans. Maybe it's via Jade's Bec and/or Sprite aspects, or maybe it's just something she can do that the Serkets can't. Jane was already semi-brainwashed from use of crockercorp products back when she was still on Earth, so it's possible it was just easier to let the tiaratop finish the job. Ugh, too many variables for meaningful speculation.
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Wyld Karde posted:The fact that HIC drove Jade grimbark suggests she does have some power over humans. Maybe it's via Jade's Bec and/or Sprite aspects, or maybe it's just something she can do that the Serkets can't. Jane was already semi-brainwashed from use of crockercorp products back when she was still on Earth, so it's possible it was just easier to let the tiaratop finish the job. It is via Bec's aspect. The Taurus symbol appeared when she took control, which represents Tavros' power of animal communion. Also, Aranea will never be able to mind control HIC because fuschia bloods are immune to psychic powers.
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:Also, Aranea will never be able to mind control HIC because fuschia bloods are immune to psychic powers. Weren't there any mind-controlled alt-Feferi/Meenah in the ghost navy? Also Aranea is boasting about being immensely more powerful than normal, what with having had eons to practice. She claims she can heal a doomed timeline and make it the alpha, and that seems a whole order of magnitude harder to do than controlling a supposedly-immune troll. (Of course, she could be full of it. Probably is. If anyone is able to prevent a doomed timeline from dying, it'll be Karkat: going with the organism analogy, taking cells which should have died and making them grow to replace the normal organism is some sort of monstrous cosmological cancer.)
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Cat Mattress posted:Weren't there any mind-controlled alt-Feferi/Meenah in the ghost navy? Also Aranea is boasting about being immensely more powerful than normal, what with having had eons to practice. She claims she can heal a doomed timeline and make it the alpha, and that seems a whole order of magnitude harder to do than controlling a supposedly-immune troll. (Of course, she could be full of it. Probably is. If anyone is able to prevent a doomed timeline from dying, it'll be Karkat: going with the organism analogy, taking cells which should have died and making them grow to replace the normal organism is some sort of monstrous cosmological cancer.)
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She said she had eons to hone her abilities as a Sylph of Light, not her power of mind control. She never even used that until it was time to feed Lord English. Also were the "rules" about who was and wasn't controllable ever actually laid out? Higher blood castes are immune? Stronger-willed trolls? Something else?
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I wouldn't rule out Aranea being able to overpower )(IC's mind control simply by the merit of the Empress gave herself the ability in a freaky lab experiment and Aranea having an army of troll ghosts to overwhelm her. Jade and Jane will probably have one hell of a migraine in the process though.
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I'm sure, given the resources available to her, Aranea could cook something up. Just escalate when things don't work: - Mind control a thousand doomed timeline Vriskas to overpower HIC. - If Vriska is immune to mind control: mind control a thousand Equiuses to control the thousands Vriskas' robo arms and deliver slaps until she cooperates. - If Equius is immune to mind control, mind control a thousand Aradia bots to flirt with the Equiuses and get him to harass the Vriska. Etc.
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Aranea might just employ a Damara or thousand to just levitate the tiara away from Jane (and from Condy too, even if it might do fuckall)
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God I love that scowling mouth. Hope she keeps doin' it after she goes back to normal. Also poor Karkat. As a non god-tier I bet he's the only one who remembers he has to eat and alchemize clean clothes every now and then. (Well there's Terezi and Kanaya too but those two are special in their own ways)
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:It is via Bec's aspect. The Taurus symbol appeared when she took control, which represents Tavros' power of animal communion. The combination of the symbols when she took control is what makes it so ambiguous to people. Also, people thought that a lot of people were immune to psychic powers, but look where we are now!
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I'm not sure if the closeups on Jane's mouth are uncomfortable or hilarious. Maybe a little of both? But I like how Jane is so dead serious when Jade is still just Jade.
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Action Shakespeare posted:The combination of the symbols when she took control is what makes it so ambiguous to people. Also, people thought that a lot of people were immune to psychic powers, but look where we are now! Now that Jade has exhibited more autonomy, I'm not entirely sure how it's working right now. I doubt )(IC is still directly controlling her, but she still probably has part of Jade's normal human psyche sleeping.
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frozentreasure posted:She said she had eons to hone her abilities as a Sylph of Light, not her power of mind control. She never even used that until it was time to feed Lord English. Also were the "rules" about who was and wasn't controllable ever actually laid out? Higher blood castes are immune? Stronger-willed trolls? Something else? Mind control only works on lower castes. Vriska, for example, explicitly couldn't mind control Equius, and I'm almost positive it was stated that the Vast Glub would affect low-bloods faster than high-bloods. The fact that Aranea can mind control Gamzee is a big loving deal. Her mind control symbol was a lot brighter than the ones we've seen previously, for that matter.
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