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ratbert90 posted:Want their heads to explode? Ask them for peer reviewed studies, and when they give you a youtube link, continue to tell them "no, I want a PEER reviewed study." No, you see, he IS a PEER of whoever put up the youtube video, has reviewed it, and passed it. Thus, the youtube link IS peer reviewed. It only makes sense that the peers of idiots are other idiots.
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ZDar Fan posted:
... Has Obama even said anything about directly interacting with the rebels so far? I was under the impression from my watching the news that he's been very specific about strictly applying a punishment to the Syrian government without actually getting involved in the civil war. Pretty sure it was Lindsey Graham, and to a slightly lesser extent, Old Man McCain who have hard-ons about "upgrading the opposition".
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Assault weapons are good for killing your countrymen.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I haven't lived in AZ in a while, but don't IDs and driver's licenses basically never expire? My old (now invalid) AZ driver's license wasn't supposed to expire until 2046 or something insane like that. Yep, mine expires in 2049. It's pretty funny the reactions I get with that when I show it in other states. They held me up at Logan Airport in Boston because they thought it was fake, it was funny but did not rule as I missed my plane because people didn't believe it.
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Phone posted:SA (and in particular AI) has spoiled me. ultimateforce posted:Hey, that's why I don't even go to car forums anymore. No poo poo I wanted to slit my wrists last time I was on Rx7club. I didn't know people like that existed until I read the political section, they spoke with child minds.
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Sep 5, 2013 05:53
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ZDar Fan posted:
For some reason part of me thought that when that "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children" page got bounced from Facebook for posting quasi-porn (and no, not the kind Colin Mochrie jokes about before selling you 25 songs on 304 CDs about chiropractors) I hoped that there would be less stupid conservative image macros posted on Facebook. Then, I remembered the subtitle of the Freep thread, and a little part of me died.
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Sep 5, 2013 06:16
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Troy Queef posted:Remember that one friend that posted the "letter from a teacher that could LOSE HER JOB" on Facebook? This has been mentioned before but the best response to this type of horseshit is "you know for the party of "personal responsibility" Republicans sure do like to blame everyone but themselves for their election defeats  ". Also anyone who brings up how much Americans hate ACA then just ask "well if they hate it so much why did they re-elect Obama instead of that political loser who said he would repeal it day one". If they use the former as an excuse for the later then just use the former reply I mentioned, if they mention something about how most Americans these days are just stupid low-info parasites the just say "Well then looks like future Democratic victory is assured/How do you expect to win those necessary votes to your side when you keep insulting them". I went down this line of reasoning with a Republican relative of mine and it sent him into a catatonic state so I consider it a smashing success.
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Axetrain posted:This has been mentioned before but the best response to this type of horseshit is "you know for the party of "personal responsibility" Republicans sure do like to blame everyone but themselves for their election defeats Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:19
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here. If you get lovely ones, please post them. I'm definitely a leftie but I'm equal opportunity against stupid poo poo.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:25
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here. It's not healthy to stop being friends with people because of their politics, doing so only ensures you'll live inside an echo chamber. That assumes their politics aren't clearly abhorrent of course. I have a hella conservative friend who I can agree with more than disagree, and he's the kind of guy who thinks all his opinions through. Meanwhile I know a LOT of people who are "conservative" but don't really think about or discuss it much, which is also fine. I'm not terrified enough of the other team that I go straight for my disemboweling daggers.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here. eh it's just one relative, besides I live in Chicago where most people are Democrats at the very least and I even have several fellow Socialists in my family and even one bonafide Communist in there too.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:37
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here. The guy in my question is a co-worker and he limits these stupid posts to a relative minimum, preferring to post pictures of him working to help stray dogs/teaching his own dogs to be competition retrievers. Plus I've got more than enough leftists in my feed to balance him out/keep his stupidity to a dull roar, in addition to the aforementioned "don't always build yourself an echo chamber of friends" idea.
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Sep 5, 2013 07:47
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Some of you (most of you?) just really need to cut some of your Facebook "friends" loose. Come live in Seattle with me, I'm drowning in liberal memes up here. Or... Just keep posting well-thought out replies and it'll work itself out  Seriously, after 7pm when got I've nothing better to do besides watch the news and sit on the couch with my laptop it's great fun! Until you realize you've got no one left to debate with and they've all gone to their echo chamber.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If you get lovely ones, please post them. I'm definitely a leftie but I'm equal opportunity against stupid poo poo. I feel like you'll see a lot of poo poo from Natural News mixed among actual good opinions. Though there is this one liberal page I follow that every other post thats reasonable and awesome, is dripping with Obama apologism.
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Nathilus posted:It's not healthy to stop being friends with people because of their politics, doing so only ensures you'll live inside an echo chamber. That assumes their politics aren't clearly abhorrent of course. I have a hella conservative friend who I can agree with more than disagree, and he's the kind of guy who thinks all his opinions through. Meanwhile I know a LOT of people who are "conservative" but don't really think about or discuss it much, which is also fine. I'm not terrified enough of the other team that I go straight for my disemboweling daggers. Honestly, and this isn't a dig at anyone, the echo chamber is right here. I will let you guys know the moment I get some motherfucking dumb poo poo from my liberal friends, but the worst that is going to get is probably something from the Huffington Post or a cross-post from pointless Facebook meme factories like Being Liberal. On a scale of 1 to Liberal Logic 101, even Being Liberal usually only registers about a 0.5. There's some petty party tribalism, especially during presidential elections? Not that exciting. I get that all of you are super-political and may live in Bible belt states or other red patches, constantly facing off with ignorant dipshits. My Facebook feed is mostly updates from nytimes, onion, George Takei, and cat macros. I've turned Facebook into a replacement for iGoogle and am now on the next level, man. Seattle has its share of young political "renegades" who are going through a libertarian phase, but it's also one of the old strongholds of the Occupy Movement. We have calorie information posted on the walls in fast food joints, outlawed plastic bags, an all-pervasive recycling movement, marijuana, gay marriage, we're working on a $15/hour minimum wage, you name it, we're ahead of most cities. Having to argue about how Obama doesn't want us to have AK-47s because the election was rigged is caveman poo poo and people like that would find it hard to hold a job here. Because they're loving dumb. The state is completely different on the other side of the mountains, but Seattle has played a major part in keeping the state government blue for a while now. This thread is generally getting posted conversations from people who clearly can't be reasoned with. Occasionally I have to shame one girl into not posting anti-vaccine bullshit from clearly disreputable sites once every three months, and she's from Minnesota. That is about it. Truth be told, most of my good friends are not really on Facebook. I feel like this comes off as holier-than-thou, so keep on fighting the good fight, I guess. But if my Facebook had as much intolerably stupid poo poo as the typical poster here, I would probably just cut out the "friends" part and use it entirely as a rolling newsfeed, which it is pretty good at. If there is an Internet battlefield worth fighting over, it's Reddit right now. If you can't get enough of your ignoramus not-really-friends, you should use their level of discourse to infuriate them, which some of you are doing.
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Axetrain posted:eh it's just one relative, besides I live in Chicago where most people are Democrats at the very least and I even have several fellow Socialists in my family and even one bonafide Communist in there too. Chicago!? And you aren't dead yet? From what I read on the Internet it has a 100% murder rate thanks to DEMOCRATS.
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Sep 5, 2013 08:21
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A family member posted this gem earlier this evening: 
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Sep 5, 2013 08:30
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Honestly, and this isn't a dig at anyone, the echo chamber is right here. There's a time and a place for building consensus with like-minded people. It's very important that you get the hell out of that situation occasionally is all. No one here lives in a perfect bubble of people who agree with them, so it's OK to occasionally flee to the Liberals' Free Hugs and Cursing Conservatives Zone. The danger sets in when you're so enmeshed in a particular perspective that you become selectively blind to its faults, or the advantages of other methods of thought. quote:I feel like this comes off as holier-than-thou, so keep on fighting the good fight, I guess. But if my Facebook had as much intolerably stupid poo poo as the typical poster here, I would probably just cut out the "friends" part and use it entirely as a rolling newsfeed, which it is pretty good at. If there is an Internet battlefield worth fighting over, it's Reddit right now. If you can't get enough of your ignoramus not-really-friends, you should use their level of discourse to infuriate them, which some of you are doing. I know it's weird, but some people just love arguing. Some of my best friends through life and I have argued up a loving storm 24/7 about practically anything just because adversarial communication can be massively entertaining as well as educational. And possibly because we love the sound of our own voices. My best friend through high school and I were both debaters, and even other debaters would occasionally tell us to shut the hell up because our constant jousting was stressful to even listen to. We were just having fun though, exploring some newfound
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Clearly we need to just ignore it and not help them, I mean it's not like the British needed our help with the Nazis or anything. 
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miscellaneous14 posted:Clearly we need to just ignore it and not help them, I mean it's not like the British needed our help with the Nazis or anything. loving LIEberal, Syria is full of  
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:A family member posted this gem earlier this evening: Honestly speaking, I'd've been strongly tempted to link to one of the photo galleries on imgur that show the victims of the chemical weapons attack in response.
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I kind of hate Facebook because I didn't need to know that people I thought were cool think poor people deserve it or that Muslims are scum or whatever. I used to just not go on Facebook at all because it was starting to feel like some bizarre conspiracy to keep me permanently enraged at horrible people saying horrible poo poo. The site's actually usable now that I've instituted a policy of unfriending serial posters of noxious poo poo. Why would I want to be friends with racists? Why would I want to be friends with people who think fast food workers should be in constant misery? Why would I want to be friends with people who respond to feminist posts with long bullshit digressions about the horrors of Marxist feminism? What exactly am I supposed to be getting out of these people on a personal level that excuses that? Are some of you characters from Trainspotting? "Well, he's always posting horrible libertarian garbage that mostly amounts to "gently caress everybody but well-off white men", but he's a mate!" I mean, there's always things to disagree on, but a lot of what I see here goes beyond disagreement and into toxic bigotry, malice, and hate speech, and I just can't imagine welcoming that into my life. I mean, call it an echo chamber if you must but it beats constantly being angry at people.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Yeah, that seems right, I was just off by a few years. I've had Texas and Nebraska licenses and they both were set to expire before I turned 30. It was insane to me that people actually had to pay attention to that. I mean, if it expires, do you have to retake the test? I actually have no idea. But I will say this: bartenders and cashiers with an eye towards fakes will flip out over legit Arizona IDs because of the date. In Texas, you have to retake the test if it's been expired for more than five years, I think. At least that's what I remember being told when I moved back after a few years and didn't have to retake it.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Yeah, that seems right, I was just off by a few years. I've had Texas and Nebraska licenses and they both were set to expire before I turned 30. It was insane to me that people actually had to pay attention to that. I mean, if it expires, do you have to retake the test? I actually have no idea. But I will say this: bartenders and cashiers with an eye towards fakes will flip out over legit Arizona IDs because of the date. Bars here no longer accept Nebraska ID because they're so easy to fake.
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So if you're from Nebraska and look younger than 30, you just have a Coke when you go out with friends?
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The Macaroni posted:So if you're from Nebraska and look younger than 30, you just have a Coke when you go out with friends? Pretty much. Don't blame them. Sucks for Nebraskans, but the last thing a bar here needs is that one kid with a fake ID getting the whole place shut down and the owners thrown in jail.
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Got that "put me in charge of welfare" shared by a friend of mine. I pushed back about the myth of "welfare queens" and the like and got back a rant about how "people do it as a profession" and "they get better healthcare than me" I tried pushing back about the healthcare bit (she said she pays an "arm an a leg" for it) that we should all be getting better healthcare and she would have none of it. Ugh, this is one of my wife's close friends.
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aBagorn posted:Got that "put me in charge of welfare" shared by a friend of mine. Ask her why she hates freedom.
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aBagorn posted:Got that "put me in charge of welfare" shared by a friend of mine. tell her if welfare is such a great "profession" she should quit her job and try it out. I'm sure she will be living a life of luxury in no time.
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Lazarus Long posted:tell her if welfare is such a great "profession" she should quit her job and try it out. I'm sure she will be living a life of luxury in no time. I shamed her enough with stats. However a third party jumped in with "there's no pride in people today, they should feel ashamed to have to depend on assistance" I want to punch that person. Usually I don't even bother with people, but as a former welfare recipient myself (I was unemployed but ineligible for UE for about 18 months) the subject really bothers me.
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aBagorn posted:Got that "put me in charge of welfare" shared by a friend of mine.  There was an Australian adaptation of that floating around that had just lazily copied in Australian terms for a few things. Ssince it had changed "Medicaid" to the name of our UHC system it was literally arguing for some mandatory population-wide drug testing, enforced contraception, and a few other self-parodying things.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:There was an Australian adaptation of that floating around that had just lazily copied in Australian terms for a few things. Ssince it had changed "Medicaid" to the name of our UHC system it was literally arguing for some mandatory population-wide drug testing, enforced contraception, and a few other self-parodying things. Haha, doesn't the forward promote not just enforced contraception, but specifically long-term surgical contraception or outright sterilization? Yes, let's sterilize all Australian citizens, that'll leave more room for immigrant "boat people." 
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TheGrizzle posted:Haha, doesn't the forward promote not just enforced contraception, but specifically long-term surgical contraception or outright sterilization? Yes, let's sterilize all Australian citizens, that'll leave more room for immigrant "boat people." Here's one of the versions that someone reposted in the AusPol thread - Centrelink is the unemployment scheme, and Medicare is the name of our UHC system. It wouldn't be worth mentioning aside from the fact that read literally it calls for testing the entire population for drugs, nicotine and alcohol.
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Besides "Everyone already pays taxes when they buy literally anything from a store", what's a good rebuttal to "We should change the Constitution so that only taxpayers can vote"?
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"Why do you hate the constitution? Were the founding fathers not smart enough for you?"
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gradenko_2000 posted:Besides "Everyone already pays taxes when they buy literally anything from a store", what's a good rebuttal to "We should change the Constitution so that only taxpayers can vote"? Agreed, we should disenfranchise retirees. Screw you Nana & Pep Pep, you had your chance.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Besides "Everyone already pays taxes when they buy literally anything from a store", what's a good rebuttal to "We should change the Constitution so that only taxpayers can vote"? Because it's a really loving stupid idea? Is it the whole "being on welfare is a conflict of interest" thing? We don't have to change the Constitution, just make being poor a felony (and get rid of the laws that let felons vote again). That's really what they want anyway, for being poor to be a crime.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Besides "Everyone already pays taxes when they buy literally anything from a store", what's a good rebuttal to "We should change the Constitution so that only taxpayers can vote"? God, reactionaries are such poo poo. Anyone that knows a little bit of American History knows we've already dealt with this, and Jacksonian Democracy won. There's a reason why he's on the goddamn $20 bill. Any argument a reactionary makes is the same argument that was made 50-200 years ago, and it was a lovely argument then, too.
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