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Bloodly posted:Yes, they expand their borders. If you start close to one or place a unit nearby you can watch it happen. I don't think they buy tiles, though. They're fairly aggressive about improving their tiles, too.(For the sake of the allying thing, but given all the talk of the AI not bothering to improve it's tiles, it's funnly than the non civs are 'better' at it.) Does this make Feitorias more or less useless? I haven't actually tried yet in my Portugal game, as I'm allied with all easily reachable CSes anyway. Also goddamn CSes on tiny islands requesting religion. I can't help you if every inch of your territory is covered in random units. Alternately, improve the "Plus" map scripts so they don't create such tiny islands. There's no reason for 50% of Pangea Plus to be ocean.
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Andorra posted:I went to war against Boudicca so I could capture one of her really good cities. I did enough damage to it to where I could capture it the next turn, but then my City State ally came out of nowhere and razed it. I was once in a war with Lizzie and after beating a path to her capital and taking every other city along the way, my ally Zanzibar went in and took it. This was back when the genocide diplohit was a real kick in the balls, so thanks Zanzibar for absorbing that 
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The Zulu are broken as gently caress. I intentionally did not research rifling so that the impi would not be replaced and am having throngs of dudes throwing spears at tanks and helicopters and destroying them like they are nothing. Hello, +150% combat ability on dudes. 
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I started a new game (prince, france) last night, and did a different opener. I used to do the original 4 cities build order but I looked up some others last night and growing your city a bit instead of just pumping out settlers makes a huge difference, as well as optimizing your production when building settlers. Some dude's home city was within growth range of 4 salt, some deer and bananas. I settled in the jungle getting bananas and 2 salt in the original city radius, then bought the rest of the needed tiles. I managed to get every wonder I wanted, and have a science and culture/tourism lead. I have stolen every artifact I've seen in the game. I just undertook a campaign on my continent (starting from 45 happiness!) and stole the great wall by taking one city, and 4 wonders including the statue of zeus by taking another, and razed most of the rest of the cities. I've managed to bribe most city states, and I think I have a science lead. My build order was different in that I started with a scout (normally do workers and settlers), then a monument, and... I don't remember the rest. But I used to start with a worker (who often could not do anything for a few turns while I researched), then just settlers and after the third settler my city would be a bit sucky. With this game, I still had 3 cities by around turn 65 and my main city was already of a decent size. I think everyone hates me now because I'm such a warmonger!
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redreader posted:I managed to get every wonder I wanted, and have a science and culture/tourism lead. I have stolen every artifact I've seen in the game. I just undertook a campaign on my continent (starting from 45 happiness!) and stole the great wall by taking one city, and 4 wonders including the statue of zeus by taking another, and razed most of the rest of the cities. I've managed to bribe most city states, and I think I have a science lead. Well that's because you're playing on Prince, friend!  Even on King it's not hard to get most all the wonders you want.
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Byzantium's UA needs to be able get reformation beliefs too. As it is, +culture to camps or Just War isn't worth it.
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As an aside to the CS talk, whats the odds of various rewards from ancient ruins? I've used a scout to snag loads of them, but only gotten a tech twice. I think it was writing both times?
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Well that's because you're playing on Prince, friend! Tell that to me most of the times I play on prince and get my rear end handed to me. I know there are harder difficulties, but I don't play them for a reason. I'm just astounded at how important good placing (I just trusted my capital's settler's placing and it was loving amazing) and growth rather than pumping out settlers, is.
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So is Venice straight up just overpowered? I actually stopped using them because it feels like cheating.
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dy. posted:So is Venice straight up just overpowered? I actually stopped using them because it feels like cheating. Try playing them on a Plus map like I did the first time. Sure, you can buy city states, but they're all going to be poo poo.
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I usually play on Frontier. Even when the city states aren't great, you're raking in so much money from trade routes that it's trivial to do just about anything.
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Shaka is already plotting against Zulu on turn 42.  I always seem to struggle with the early game the most, I always feel behind in getting out Settlers and such. My usual order is monument-shrine-scout and then see about the Great Library for that early research boost, research Pottery/Writing/Husbandry/Trapping/Calendar, with Drama and Poetry as my free tech. I usually just get workers and settlers from Liberty, but I was trying out a Piety rush as the Celts and the Austrians have already grabbed a city spot I was looking at.
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StashAugustine posted:Shaka is already plotting against Zulu on turn 42. i beg your pardon
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fivre posted:Also goddamn CSes on tiny islands requesting religion. I can't help you if every inch of your territory is covered in random units. You can spread your religion from embarked missionaries. Surprisingly useful. Pvt.Scott posted:I hear that. Mine felt worse though, because I did it with the free settler from liberty before the CS even added an extra tile. Then I bought up any useful tiles besides the luxury and they got stuck with 2-3 plains and the rest was flat desert. And that's perfectly fine. City States, again, don't follow the same rules as everyone else. So that's actually more useful for you, the player, to do so.
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Oh man, my current game has a Rome in 2nd place who has waged no wars with only 2 cities and an Ethiopia who has shat out settlers like nobodies business and controls half the world  It's a huge pain in the arse too, I was planning on doing that byzintine tourism strat of 3 faith buildings as follower tenets and then grab the reformation belief that gives tourism from them. But ethiopa lucked out on huts/CS to get a super quick pantheon and then his crazy good shrine replacement carried him through to getting the first religion where he took the mosques. Leaving me with cathedrals (great!), pagodas (not bad) and then eventually Monasteries on the enhance (poo poo as I have no wine or insense!) He and Rome also took globe theatre and a few other tourism wonders for no real reason except to be dicks I guess. Still, I'm sticking with it and trying to put a dent in Ethiopia is proving to be really difficult, its the modern era, he is best friends with everyone so I can't pay them off to war him, he is way ahead on techs so I can't do it myself and he has so much cash he just buys out CSs to control the world congress. I'm on 200 tpt and about to win the international games though, my 10 000+ saved up faith is all going on musicians for the worlds biggest concert in Ethiopia very soon 
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StashAugustine posted:Shaka is already plotting against Zulu on turn 42. Paranoid schizophrenia is a hell of an illness.
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Harvs posted:I'm on 200 tpt and about to win the international games though, my 10 000+ saved up faith is all going on musicians for the worlds biggest concert in Ethiopia very soon How do you keep that from turning into Great Prophets eventually? Is there a way to just stockpile it forever that I missed?
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Flame112 posted:How do you keep that from turning into Great Prophets eventually? Is there a way to just stockpile it forever that I missed? Once you get to the Industrial Era, you don't spawn prophets automatically anymore.
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I think I might have to stop reflexively grabbing the Great Library, I'm probably just ingrained from Civ III where it was ridiculously good.
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Ugh, whoever recently mentioned the lovely city-state placement on pangea plus is right. The majority out CSs on this game are on 1 or 2 tile islands. Maybe I had low sea level on.
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Tao Jones posted:Once you get to the Industrial Era, you don't spawn prophets automatically anymore. And in the mean time you CAN game it a bit by buying missionaries whenever you're getting close to the cap, but frankly I think if you end up spawning any you can do better by having them build a holy site.
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Flame112 posted:Try playing [Venice] on a Plus map like I did the first time. Sure, you can buy city states, but they're all going to be poo poo. My second-to-last Venice game was on a poorly chosen but not ridiculous set of map choices which left me with one city state (and no other civs) within pre-Ocean travel. Venice is really powerful, but they're more dependent on map conditions than most other factions, and don't support all playstyles. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Sep 6, 2013 |
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dy. posted:So is Venice straight up just overpowered? I actually stopped using them because it feels like cheating. I think so. If you're playing on Immortal they're basically completely unstoppable if you're given enough time to buy 2-3 city states because each one of them has an army capable of standing toe-to-toe with an AI. It only gets worse the later the game goes as your trade routes kick in.
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StashAugustine posted:
I'm with you. The early game makes me feel like I'm getting destroyed by the AI. They're all at 2 or 3 cities and I still haven't produced a settler yet. I usually go scout-monument-shrine-settler and by the time I get the settler going, I usually have the option to go for the Great Library. If I do that, then I'm even further behind in settlers. In my current game, I have just completed the Great Library, playing as Poland and my first settler is on the way, but France is pushing into me with crappily placed cities. So I know that if I have to make an aggressive push I won't even have any puppets that are worth keeping. I honestly think I just need to turn off the scoreboard on the right side of the screen and it would help my game a lot because I wouldn't use that worthless early game metric to gauge my progress.
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beerinator posted:I'm with you. The early game makes me feel like I'm getting destroyed by the AI. They're all at 2 or 3 cities and I still haven't produced a settler yet. The one thing that really annoys me is the inability to set up colonies on resources, especially since you're encouraged to only have a few cities. Am I the only one that refuses to trade Great Works if I like them? It may give me a +1 theme bonus, but I'll be damned if I have to give up Le Mis. e: holy gently caress stop coveting my lands I'm doing the one city challenge here. StashAugustine fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Sep 6, 2013 |
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SO i just downloaded brave new world and when i try to install mods, all of them (including DLC mods) are telling me "This version of the game is not compatible with this mod". I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling Civ 5 through steam with no effect. Does anyone know how to fix this? i'd really rather play with info-addict and there's a new civ i'd like to try. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=165550793&searchtext=
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What is up with the AI's huge boner for AA guns? I've seen em attack cites.
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StashAugustine posted:What is up with the AI's huge boner for AA guns? I've seen em attack cites. Well, if they didn't build lots of AA, their units would just get bombed to dust. I doubt the AI even really knows how to use them and just covers their units from air attack by happenstance.
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I usually start with a Worker, they're good yo. I don't make settlers for a while, I just get a Voltron capital city that eventually will reach 45 population.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Well, if they didn't build lots of AA, their units would just get bombed to dust. I doubt the AI even really knows how to use them and just covers their units from air attack by happenstance. Evidently, since they just sent about 5 bombers in a row at 1 unit that would instantly regenerate covered by an AA gun that instantly shot all their bombers down.
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I can't believe William has the gall to settle a city in the middle of my army and then complain that I have units on his border 
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KKKlean Energy posted:I can't believe William has the gall to settle a city in the middle of my army and then complain that I have units on his border Yeah, that stuff is super annoying. Then I remind myself that the AI, unlike a human, isn't really going to connect those events together in context.
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I want to play BNW. Quite a lot. However, I am in Australia and on Steam it costs $50US. FIFTY DOLLARS!!! I saw it on Newegg for sale for $12. Are there any kind overseas goons who can help me avoid the Australia Tax?
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SUPERFINE CONCUBINE posted:I want to play BNW. Quite a lot. However, I am in Australia and on Steam it costs $50US. FIFTY DOLLARS!!! I saw it on Newegg for sale for $12. Are there any kind overseas goons who can help me avoid the Australia Tax? I was slightly surprised to see that the US dollar was very slightly up on the Australian dollar. I guess I just assumed that it was roughly equivalent to the £ or €. Unfortunately I cannot help you, myself.
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SUPERFINE CONCUBINE posted:I want to play BNW. Quite a lot. However, I am in Australia and on Steam it costs $50US. FIFTY DOLLARS!!! I saw it on Newegg for sale for $12. Are there any kind overseas goons who can help me avoid the Australia Tax? How would one go about helping? I'll do it in exchange for a promise that if you ever go to America, you visit an Outback steakhouse and record an honest video of your thoughts on the experience. (Venice / tourism ITT). \/\/\/ Do I just need to buy the game code and PM it to you? Peas and Rice fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 7, 2013 |
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Pvt.Scott posted:I was slightly surprised to see that the US dollar was very slightly up on the Australian dollar. I guess I just assumed that it was roughly equivalent to the £ or €€. Unfortunately I cannot help you, myself. We were above parity for a few years (good years), but yes, now it's back down to about 1 to 0.91, meaning that for me the cost of a digitally-delivered expansion pack is actually over $50. There is no justification for this whatsoever. I just want to play as Poland dammit 
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SUPERFINE CONCUBINE posted:We were above parity for a few years (good years), but yes, now it's back down to about 1 to 0.91, meaning that for me the cost of a digitally-delivered expansion pack is actually over $50. There is no justification for this whatsoever. Hey, the operating margins on digital cargo vessels are really tight. Do you want some poor techno-merchant cybernavyman to lose his house?
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SUPERFINE CONCUBINE posted:We were above parity for a few years (good years), but yes, now it's back down to about 1 to 0.91, meaning that for me the cost of a digitally-delivered expansion pack is actually over $50. There is no justification for this whatsoever. Do you just need the code? Will a US steam code work? Or the US key from Newegg?
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SUPERFINE CONCUBINE posted:I want to play BNW. Quite a lot. However, I am in Australia and on Steam it costs $50US. FIFTY DOLLARS!!! I saw it on Newegg for sale for $12. Are there any kind overseas goons who can help me avoid the Australia Tax? I got my copy from Green Man Gaming.
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