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iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Good thing our government gave those big companies all that money to build out their networks and service areas over the past 15 years!
I know! Maybe if I lived closer to a major shopping area or someth...hmm.

The kick in the teeth is, if I understood an AT&T technician from a while back, U-verse (or at least DSL) IS available here, except their DSLAM(?) simply can't support any additional subscribers and there are absolutely zero plans to upgrade it. I can't verify this of course. If I check residential DSL availability here it says it's not available, if I check for business class it says yes but I must call to complete the order and I've yet to get a straight or consistent answer from a CSR as to why I can't get service other than 'not at this time'.

Meanwhile, one of my best friends who lives in bumfuck nowhere a couple of hours NorthWest of Birmingham enjoys some insanely fast DSL at his house that's literally 3 miles down a dirt road.

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Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
Easier to roll out high speed Internet in less urban areas. It's a lot of work to tear out existing infrastructure in a city and throw in new stuff.

Benefit of living in bumfuck nowhere, though!

b0bx13
Jun 14, 2006
This is a stupid "just call and ask" kind of question, but just in case someone might know...

My family's account has an extra "courtesy" upgrade on it due to a gently caress up by Verizon; it is in the form of a note on the account. Is Best Buy (or any other third party for that matter) able to see these "notes" on an account? Or will I have to go directly through Verizon to use it?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

b0bx13 posted:

This is a stupid "just call and ask" kind of question, but just in case someone might know...

My family's account has an extra "courtesy" upgrade on it due to a gently caress up by Verizon; it is in the form of a note on the account. Is Best Buy (or any other third party for that matter) able to see these "notes" on an account? Or will I have to go directly through Verizon to use it?

You will probably have to go directly through verizon. Whenever I had an early upgrade only Verizon themselves was able to do it.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

b0bx13 posted:

This is a stupid "just call and ask" kind of question, but just in case someone might know...

My family's account has an extra "courtesy" upgrade on it due to a gently caress up by Verizon; it is in the form of a note on the account. Is Best Buy (or any other third party for that matter) able to see these "notes" on an account? Or will I have to go directly through Verizon to use it?

Probably not. Carriers do that all the time. Dangle an upgrade in front of you for various reasons, but only show it in a way that let's corporate stores do it. I've had customers have varying degrees of success calling them up and telling them they want to do it elsewhere, but it can be a bit of a process and you have to be firm and consistent, but not a total douche.

Sprint did this all the time.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
Anyone use the Ghost 100 wireless charger from Verizon? I'm looking for something more substantial than the tiny little circle ones if possible.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

JP Money posted:

Anyone use the Ghost 100 wireless charger from Verizon? I'm looking for something more substantial than the tiny little circle ones if possible.

I have the Ghost 100 on my nightstand at home, and some cheap Chinese charger I got on Amazon and posted about in the Android phone thread. I wish I had just bought two of the Ghost 100.

The design looks pretty crappy (it says "DROID" on it front and center, and has a pulsing red light on the front) but it seems a lot more reliable about actually charging through a case than the cheap one.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
Crosspost from the Android thread:

Anyone use this deal? Anything I should know if I go about buying a phone this way? Best Buy and Amazon are out of stock on the new Droids and they bumped up their price 50 dollars making this now the cheapest route to a new phone.

http://www.comcast.com/wireless.html

E: I went ahead with this and it works pretty well. They're sending my phone out Thursday when Verizon restocks. Easy savings of 100 bucks (plus 10 dollars a month off your comcast service) without dealing with phone trade-in or anything.

Baller Witness Bro fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 3, 2013

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

JP Money posted:

Crosspost from the Android thread:

Anyone use this deal? Anything I should know if I go about buying a phone this way? Best Buy and Amazon are out of stock on the new Droids and they bumped up their price 50 dollars making this now the cheapest route to a new phone.

http://www.comcast.com/wireless.html

E: I went ahead with this and it works pretty well. They're sending my phone out Thursday when Verizon restocks. Easy savings of 100 bucks (plus 10 dollars a month off your comcast service) without dealing with phone trade-in or anything.
There are bundle offers from several other cable partners as well. They are not all the same but details are thus:
http://verizonwireless.com/comcast
http://verizonwireless.com/cox
http://verizonwireless.com/timewarner
http://verizonwireless.com/brighthouse

Congobongo
Feb 6, 2004
i break for dinosaurs


Smellrose

JP Money posted:

Crosspost from the Android thread:

Anyone use this deal? Anything I should know if I go about buying a phone this way? Best Buy and Amazon are out of stock on the new Droids and they bumped up their price 50 dollars making this now the cheapest route to a new phone.

http://www.comcast.com/wireless.html

E: I went ahead with this and it works pretty well. They're sending my phone out Thursday when Verizon restocks. Easy savings of 100 bucks (plus 10 dollars a month off your comcast service) without dealing with phone trade-in or anything.

Just did this deal, I upgraded a dumb phone line on my family plan to transfer to a grandfathered unlimited line. When I receive the phone can I just drop my SIM into the device and not have to activate the new phone?

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
I've heard from I think phandroid (I know it's poo poo) forums that some stores are letting you trade in any Motorola towards a new DROID for the $100 credit. I'm very tempted to go try this and get essentially 200 off since technically right now my account is showing I paid full price for the phone :getin:

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

JP Money posted:

I've heard from I think phandroid (I know it's poo poo) forums that some stores are letting you trade in any Motorola towards a new DROID for the $100 credit. I'm very tempted to go try this and get essentially 200 off since technically right now my account is showing I paid full price for the phone :getin:

This is a Motorola deal, and its been going on for awhile. I think close to a year now, actually. They have a list of acceptable phones on their website - it's basically a bunch of 2011 phones that didn't make the ICS cut like the Droid X2 and the Droid 3.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

This is a Motorola deal, and its been going on for awhile. I think close to a year now, actually. They have a list of acceptable phones on their website - it's basically a bunch of 2011 phones that didn't make the ICS cut like the Droid X2 and the Droid 3.

Correct. What I'm hoping is that I can go in and just not mention that there are specific phones for the deal. I see the likelihood of this working as <1% but it's whatever, it only costs me time to go to a store if it doesn't.

pbpancho
Feb 17, 2004
-=International Sales=-

JP Money posted:

Correct. What I'm hoping is that I can go in and just not mention that there are specific phones for the deal. I see the likelihood of this working as <1% but it's whatever, it only costs me time to go to a store if it doesn't.

It's definitely not going to work. It comes up automatically with an eligible device, it's not put in manually. And if you try to convince them, they can just google it or go to Motorolatradeup.com to get the actual details.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Congobongo posted:

Just did this deal, I upgraded a dumb phone line on my family plan to transfer to a grandfathered unlimited line. When I receive the phone can I just drop my SIM into the device and not have to activate the new phone?
I'm pretty sure you have to activate it on the dumb phone line first, otherwise it shows up as a new activation on your regular line. I might be wrong.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

Congobongo posted:

Just did this deal, I upgraded a dumb phone line on my family plan to transfer to a grandfathered unlimited line. When I receive the phone can I just drop my SIM into the device and not have to activate the new phone?

e: I take all this back. It looks like the phone shipped out this morning for delivery Monday.

Baller Witness Bro fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Sep 5, 2013

Binge
Feb 23, 2001

I'm looking for opinions on what to do about this. Service absolutely sucks in my neighborhood. There doesn't appear to be a reason for this, other than it just does. It's not just inside my house, it's anywhere. When you're indoors, its way worse, and you cannot have a conversation with someone for more than 5 minutes before the chance of the call dropping increases to near 100%. It's been this way for a long time, and I think I'm finally at my breaking point with it. Obviously we use wi-fi for data stuff, but since we have the Verizon Home phone thing, and 4 other VZW devices in the house, all of which never see more than a single bar on the weakest network I'm getting pissed about it.

So I called tech support. He immediately noted how bad the reception was, and dispatched actual service techs. The techs call and leave a message saying they don't see anything wrong, go buy a range extender. Really? I have 7 devices on one plan(it's a shared plan with my friends). My family has 2 more, and the verizon home connect thing. I think I pay Verizon enough money for them to tell me this. Am I wrong? Should I call and complain? I don't normally do such things, but I wanted to see what other people have to say about it before I do.

AT&T in my neighborhood works fine. AT&T will be getting the only 2 devices(N5 or HTC one max) I want next anyway, and I might switch regardless (except for the fact I'm the primary account holder for the 7 devices shared plan, so I don't know how I'd be able to get out of that).

Additional notes: The guy on the phone said there are 5 towers in my area, and I'm connecting to the best one. I think the one I connect to is very close by, and I've never gotten a real answer from a Verizon person on this, but I am assuming a tower broadcasts like an umbrella, outward, and we're underneath it or something. My town has full 4G support on paper, and if I drive 1-2 miles I do switch over to it, and finally start getting real data speeds.

My neighbors have had the exact same complaints, it's not just me or my rooted devices doing evil signal crushing things.

CRACK FIRE BEATS
Sep 11, 2001
I finally got around to processing a warranty claim on my Galaxy S3 for a broken audio jack and I've received the replacement phone. Should I do a factory reset on my defective phone before I send it back or am I being overly paranoid about my personal info? I'm worried formatting the phone will look suspicious to whoever inspects my defective phone that I was rooting it or whatever and I want to give them as little reason as possible to attempt and charge me for the replacement.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

CRACK FIRE BEATS posted:

I finally got around to processing a warranty claim on my Galaxy S3 for a broken audio jack and I've received the replacement phone. Should I do a factory reset on my defective phone before I send it back or am I being overly paranoid about my personal info? I'm worried formatting the phone will look suspicious to whoever inspects my defective phone that I was rooting it or whatever and I want to give them as little reason as possible to attempt and charge me for the replacement.

I wouldn't trust even professionals to wipe my information and there is nothing saying you need to keep software the way it is. Heck with it being a hardware issue I wouldn't think twice about wiping it.

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

CRACK FIRE BEATS posted:

I finally got around to processing a warranty claim on my Galaxy S3 for a broken audio jack and I've received the replacement phone. Should I do a factory reset on my defective phone before I send it back or am I being overly paranoid about my personal info? I'm worried formatting the phone will look suspicious to whoever inspects my defective phone that I was rooting it or whatever and I want to give them as little reason as possible to attempt and charge me for the replacement.
Feel free to factory reset. That would raise absolutely no suspicions about rooting shenanigans since factory reset is part of the tech support troubleshooting process when poo poo goes wrong. If you have rooted your phone I guess probably try to restore to some sort of stock software but don't worry too much. I have never somebody charged a damage fee for rooting since it would be awfully hard to prove.

Since the damage fee is $299 for smartphones the only way Verizon can reasonably defend it is by sending you pictures of your seriously busted-rear end phone along with pictures of the pristine FedEx return box via email.

Everything that goes into the central returns warehouse be it phone memory or SD cards is officially wiped and discarded. (There is a child porn clause so please don't return that.)

CRACK FIRE BEATS
Sep 11, 2001
Cool, thanks for the info. I'll go ahead and do a reset and send it back and see what happens. Thanks!

GUYS STOP
Jun 7, 2003
Grimey Drawer

CRACK FIRE BEATS posted:

Cool, thanks for the info. I'll go ahead and do a reset and send it back and see what happens. Thanks!
Write down your tracking number please. We can usually look them up on return shipments but not on caller generated labels. Also make sure to drop it off at the correct carrier USPS, FedEX or UPS. I'm not saying you're an idiot but I have dealt with too many FedEx return shipments dropped off at the post office than I would care to discuss. :unsmith:

bam thwok
Sep 20, 2005
I sure hope I don't get banned
Upgrading my current phone imminently. Ignoring for a moment my concerns about maintaining my unlimited data plan, what are the top smartphone picks on VZW right now, or is there something awesome within the next month or so I should hold out for?

Been looking at the HTC One, Droid Ultra, and S4. S4 and One are already 4-6 months old. Is the Ultra the clear winner right now?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


The Ultra is actually the most redundant phone in Verizon's lineup right now. If you want a $199 motorola smartphone, buy an X. But you should really be buying the MAXX.

bam thwok
Sep 20, 2005
I sure hope I don't get banned

bull3964 posted:

The Ultra is actually the most redundant phone in Verizon's lineup right now. If you want a $199 motorola smartphone, buy an X. But you should really be buying the MAXX.

Ah, I was confusing the Maxx with the Razr Maxx that came out last year.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

bam thwok posted:

Ah, I was confusing the Maxx with the Razr Maxx that came out last year.

Are you absolutely trying to keep unlimited? If not, use the deal I posted above to get the Maxx for 100 dollars off if that's what you want. Don't get the Ultra!

bam thwok
Sep 20, 2005
I sure hope I don't get banned

JP Money posted:

Are you absolutely trying to keep unlimited? If not, use the deal I posted above to get the Maxx for 100 dollars off if that's what you want. Don't get the Ultra!

Absolutely trying to keep it. I've watched my utilization, and most months I bump up against 4 GB just myself, before accounting for the other two smartphones on our family line. It's nice to have the freedom to pop my sim card into my laptop when I'm on a long bus or train ride to watch netflix and not have to worry about overages.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

bam thwok posted:

Absolutely trying to keep it. I've watched my utilization, and most months I bump up against 4 GB just myself, before accounting for the other two smartphones on our family line. It's nice to have the freedom to pop my sim card into my laptop when I'm on a long bus or train ride to watch netflix and not have to worry about overages.

In that case you may want to look into the dumb-phone line switch if you want to save a bit of cash. You could even use the Comcast promotion to save 100 dollars that way, swap phones and then just pay the 10 bucks a month. You'd end up somewhere around 240 for the dumb phone line, and then 250ish for the phone + tax / activation.

bam thwok
Sep 20, 2005
I sure hope I don't get banned

JP Money posted:

In that case you may want to look into the dumb-phone line switch if you want to save a bit of cash. You could even use the Comcast promotion to save 100 dollars that way, swap phones and then just pay the 10 bucks a month. You'd end up somewhere around 240 for the dumb phone line, and then 250ish for the phone + tax / activation.

The phone right now is only $300 on upgrade. I feel like that's an awful lot of trouble to go through for $50 in savings...

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

bam thwok posted:

The phone right now is only $300 on upgrade. I feel like that's an awful lot of trouble to go through for $50 in savings...

If you upgrade you're losing your unlimited.

Scipiotik
Mar 2, 2004

"I would have won the race but for that."
The Maxx is awesome, feels really well made, lasts forever, and the gimmicks that Moto put it in are actually useful. Active notifications has totally changed how I use my phone, and touchless controls are pretty cool, although I'm not sure how much I'll use them.

I'd definitely go in and check everything out at a store, you can't really go wrong with an S4, One or Maxx.

bam thwok
Sep 20, 2005
I sure hope I don't get banned

JP Money posted:

If you upgrade you're losing your unlimited.

We're going to transfer upgrade to another phone on the line, get the Maxx (or whatever) on that line, then reactivate it on my line. Everyone has told me so far that this will work.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

bam thwok posted:

We're going to transfer upgrade to another phone on the line, get the Maxx (or whatever) on that line, then reactivate it on my line. Everyone has told me so far that this will work.

In that case you can still use that deal I posted, it's a savings of 100 dollars not 50. You pay tax and activation on your 300 dollar activation as well.

https://preorder.verizonwireless.com/iconic/iconic/screens/IconicDeviceSelection.do

Not sure if that link works but they have all the current phones there, even the Note 3 (won't ship til 10/10 apparently?) The s4 is 199 and the HTC One is the same. The Maxx is 299. You'd get 100 back on any of those phones.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
If I have unlimited phone data can I pop my sim out of my phone and put it in a mobile broadband/jetpack device and it'll still be functional?

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

bam thwok posted:

Upgrading my current phone imminently. Ignoring for a moment my concerns about maintaining my unlimited data plan, what are the top smartphone picks on VZW right now, or is there something awesome within the next month or so I should hold out for?

Been looking at the HTC One, Droid Ultra, and S4. S4 and One are already 4-6 months old. Is the Ultra the clear winner right now?

The Droid ultra is a rather weird choice to throw in there - but I understand why you did it. I wouldn't worry about the One and S4 being "old" devices, they actually have newer chipsets in them than the Ultra (although don't read too much into that, since at this point it hardly matters anymore) so there's no reason to cast them aside at this point.

Let the One and S4 be your $199 choice, and the Droid MAXX be your $299 choice. Get the MAXX if battery life is a big concern to you. Otherwise, the S4 can take SD cards, which the One and MAXX can't. The one has a really nice screen, nice set of speakers, and aluminum construction though.

Reacean
Nov 29, 2004

I keep seeing it posted here that folks are doing all kinds of crazy stuff to keep their unlimited, but why do you have to? I just recently upgraded to the HTC One, and when I ordered it through Amazon I had no issues with keeping my old plan (100 minutes, 250 text, unlimited data). Is this an in-store only thing where they want to force you off that plan?

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

Reacean posted:

I keep seeing it posted here that folks are doing all kinds of crazy stuff to keep their unlimited, but why do you have to? I just recently upgraded to the HTC One, and when I ordered it through Amazon I had no issues with keeping my old plan (100 minutes, 250 text, unlimited data). Is this an in-store only thing where they want to force you off that plan?

Uhhhhhhhhhh you better double check your features on Verizon.com because you should have had it taken away. Unless you slipped through some sort of crazy loop-hole involving old plans or something (that 100 minutes must be some sort of special/old plan?).

Reacean
Nov 29, 2004

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Uhhhhhhhhhh you better double check your features on Verizon.com because you should have had it taken away. Unless you slipped through some sort of crazy loop-hole involving old plans or something (that 100 minutes must be some sort of special/old plan?).

Double checked, still have unlimited on my plan. 100 Minutes was a special plan they offered me years ago when they saw I use ~ 10 minutes every month. I even chatted with a rep that confirmed my plan is staying the same.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

Reacean posted:

I keep seeing it posted here that folks are doing all kinds of crazy stuff to keep their unlimited, but why do you have to? I just recently upgraded to the HTC One, and when I ordered it through Amazon I had no issues with keeping my old plan (100 minutes, 250 text, unlimited data). Is this an in-store only thing where they want to force you off that plan?

Yeah, you might want to check your account. There's not an option for unlimited data anymore when signing your new contract so it automatically puts you on the 2GB plan I'm pretty sure.

E: ^ If that's true you got incredibly lucky. I've never heard of the 100 minutes / unlimited data plan so maybe you're in such a small minority of people that they haven't squashed that yet.

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highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


When I use voice commands on my dmaxx to send a text it sends two copies to the recipient. Is anybody else experiencing this?

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