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BobbyDrake
Mar 13, 2005

Chemmy posted:

Does that make sense financially? If you're eligible for an upgrade why not just take the One for $199 and sell the iPhone on Craigslist?

Three reasons, one, I don't have 200 bucks right now; two, this way I can get a new phone next year if I want and three, my fiancee hates her 4 and wants the increased memory of the 4s but isn't up for an upgrade until next year. Yes, I know I'm paying more in the long run, but eh. Also, she's already said she'll pay the difference that I would have gotten for the 4s instead of the 4. Also, I hate iOS cause I hate having to have apps on the home screen, I like to be able to have a clean desktop. Yeah, I know, I'm weird.

Edit: Keep thinking of new reasons.

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skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Stick100 posted:

Also the US is a very big sparsely populated country so it's very expensive to have good tower coverage. You can get decent plans for $50 months but you have to pay for your phone.

I work with some folks in the UK, and sometimes folks in Europe have a hard time realizing just how large the US is. Great Britain itself is a little smaller than the State of Oregon. If you put 60 Million people in Oregon things like public transportation and dense telecommunications become much easier to achieve at a lower price. Oregon has about 4 million people in it right now for comparison.

I took a road trip this summer from where I live in San Antonio, TX to visit family in Kansas. My UK co-workers couldn't really contemplate somewhere taking 11 hours to reach by car. The equivalent drive in Europe is Paris, France to Madrid, Spain. I don't think much of it, I'm just crossing through a single state to get there.

Medikit
Dec 31, 2002

que lástima

skipdogg posted:

I work with some folks in the UK, and sometimes folks in Europe have a hard time realizing just how large the US is. Great Britain itself is a little smaller than the State of Oregon. If you put 60 Million people in Oregon things like public transportation and dense telecommunications become much easier to achieve at a lower price. Oregon has about 4 million people in it right now for comparison.

I took a road trip this summer from where I live in San Antonio, TX to visit family in Kansas. My UK co-workers couldn't really contemplate somewhere taking 11 hours to reach by car. The equivalent drive in Europe is Paris, France to Madrid, Spain. I don't think much of it, I'm just crossing through a single state to get there.

City people tend to have the same problem. When I was working in NYC my co-workers were shocked that I was planning to drive back home to North Carolina. In one day!

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

BobbyDrake posted:

I'll be eligible for upgrade next week, and what I'd like to do is the following:

Switch my iPhone 4s with my fiancee's iphone 4
Trade the 4 in for a HTC One using Next and the trade to pay for the taxes and such.

Both phones are in good condition, and she doesn't want the 4 anymore. Will they allow this? We'll be doing this at a corporate store, if that makes a difference.

You can do this, and whatever ATT rep you get will love you for getting Next. Shouldn't be too hard to do.

Trade in on the 4 is $95-118 depending on size, the 4S is currently $175.

Keep in mind Next means you pay $27 a month for the One, no activation fee, so it's $320ish a year. End of the 12 months, you trade in the phone for next newest phone (can't be broken), and that renews the payments of $xx a month. At any time you can pay off the phone or just not trade in and wait out the 20 month agreement.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Apologies if this is not the best place to post this.

I found out about the Sony Xperia Z and the Ultra. I want to use those phones. As far as I am aware AT&T does not sell them in store with plan so I would need to buy unlocked versions from elsewhere.

I've been searching for articles that suspect they might be soon offered by AT&T but is there any sort of conclusive evidence? In the end I'll probably just buy one unlocked but if it's coming in the next 6 months or something I can wait because I'm due for an upgrade.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Gatts posted:

Apologies if this is not the best place to post this.

I found out about the Sony Xperia Z and the Ultra. I want to use those phones. As far as I am aware AT&T does not sell them in store with plan so I would need to buy unlocked versions from elsewhere.

I've been searching for articles that suspect they might be soon offered by AT&T but is there any sort of conclusive evidence? In the end I'll probably just buy one unlocked but if it's coming in the next 6 months or something I can wait because I'm due for an upgrade.

Unknown, and usually ATT releases a baa bastard version that really doesn't get support anyway.

blargle
Apr 3, 2007
I'm looking at coming to AT&T from Sprint, does the following plan make sense?

450 minutes, 3 GB data, no texting, 20% work discount: $56/mo + taxes

My questions are:

- Should I go to a COR store or order on Amazon.com?
- Is there a way around the activation fee?
- Can I get the refurb HTC One for $10 and sell it immediately to buy another unlocked phone? (Probably Nexus 5 or Moto X GPE)
- If I put my SIM in said unlocked phone, will it get LTE?

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

blargle posted:

I'm looking at coming to AT&T from Sprint, does the following plan make sense?

450 minutes, 3 GB data, no texting, 20% work discount: $56/mo + taxes

My questions are:

- Should I go to a COR store or order on Amazon.com?
- Is there a way around the activation fee?
- Can I get the refurb HTC One for $10 and sell it immediately to buy another unlocked phone? (Probably Nexus 5 or Moto X GPE)
- If I put my SIM in said unlocked phone, will it get LTE?

It'll be more like $62 with some taxes actually. Your discount will come off your minute plan, not your data.

If your work discount waives your activation fee thats really the only way around it, you can try and call customer care for that kind of thing but if you're only bringing over one line its not likely, but it also depends on the store that you go to, just don't get your hopes up.
You can buy the refurb phone and sell it for another device absolutely but there is no way for you to get that in a store, you'd have to order it through att.com and I don't even know if Amazon deals with them. And on the last one its really going to depend on the phone and the settings within, but I have set up unlocked phones and have had LTE working on them.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

blargle posted:

I'm looking at coming to AT&T from Sprint, does the following plan make sense?

450 minutes, 3 GB data, no texting, 20% work discount: $56/mo + taxes

My questions are:

- Should I go to a COR store or order on Amazon.com?
- Is there a way around the activation fee?
- Can I get the refurb HTC One for $10 and sell it immediately to buy another unlocked phone? (Probably Nexus 5 or Moto X GPE)
- If I put my SIM in said unlocked phone, will it get LTE?

Iphones will have a better resell value than a HTC One. If the price is the same, go through a store, if you save money ordering online do that then.

Who knows when a Nexus 5 is coming out.

ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah

Sticky posted:

It'll be more like $62 with some taxes actually. Your discount will come off your minute plan, not your data.

They do discount the 5GB w/ tethering plan though. I have that. So my total monthly is around $75 w/ a 20% employer discount. I never really use more than 3GB, but I like having tethering that isn't dependent on a jailbreak. Worth thinking about anyway.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Duckman2008 posted:

Who knows when a Nexus 5 is coming out.

Or even if. The price drop today of Nexus 4 to $199/$249 could signal they are clearing out stock or maybe they just feel the device is good enough and they just want to drive down the price to get a great device out there.

With the N4 Google made a super top tier product at an extreme discount. It's possible they feel they have a good enough phone. I'm not really sure what google would care to upgrade. 720p is good enough for most people, the camera is ok, the processor is still in the top 5 of benchmarks.

ddogflex
Sep 19, 2004

blahblahblah

Stick100 posted:

Or even if. The price drop today of Nexus 4 to $199/$249 could signal they are clearing out stock or maybe they just feel the device is good enough and they just want to drive down the price to get a great device out there.

With the N4 Google made a super top tier product at an extreme discount. It's possible they feel they have a good enough phone. I'm not really sure what google would care to upgrade. 720p is good enough for most people, the camera is ok, the processor is still in the top 5 of benchmarks.

LTE is a pretty big deal. Other than that the N4 is still a great device. It was weird it didn't have LTE a year ago honestly.

blargle
Apr 3, 2007
Thanks for the advice, I'll just use the HTC One or Galaxy S4 until the next Nexus or whatever unlocked phone comes along. I'm more concerned about getting LTE with the unlocked device, it seems like not many people have successfully pulled it off yet.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

ddogflex posted:

LTE is a pretty big deal. Other than that the N4 is still a great device. It was weird it didn't have LTE a year ago honestly.

They made one global device to drive the price down. There is no standard for LTE and it only matters in the US. To make LTE devices you pretty much have to make a different specific one for every carrier.

As we've seen with the N4 it could have had TMo and Rogers (Canada) LTE easily but it still would have lacked ATT LTE.

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Is it possible to buy a Nokia 520 and setup a GoPhone plan in an AT&T Corporate store? I have a tech-naive family member coming into town and for a few days and I'd like to help them get setup on a new phone and plan before they leave.

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Hughmoris posted:

Is it possible to buy a Nokia 520 and setup a GoPhone plan in an AT&T Corporate store? I have a tech-naive family member coming into town and for a few days and I'd like to help them get setup on a new phone and plan before they leave.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Hughmoris posted:

Is it possible to buy a Nokia 520 and setup a GoPhone plan in an AT&T Corporate store? I have a tech-naive family member coming into town and for a few days and I'd like to help them get setup on a new phone and plan before they leave.

Yep, $100 for the phone, and you pay for whatever plan you want.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

This is my data usage:

I have unlimited. Should I drop it?

Last month was an anomaly. One building I work at lost internet and I went a little crazy. I've used ~1.64GB this month with 13 days to go. And I don't have things set to only use wi-fi, which I could easily do and use even less data (I've used between 500MB and 1GB between Pocket Casts and the Google Play Store this month). The plan is 3GB for $20? Last time I looked on the website I couldn't see any plans to switch to.

Also is there any way that it could be to my advantage, like could I get something for it? I don't even know what I'd get, but I'm assuming AT&T wants people off unlimited plans?

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

myron cope posted:

Also is there any way that it could be to my advantage, like could I get something for it? I don't even know what I'd get, but I'm assuming AT&T wants people off unlimited plans?

They really haven't done much to incentivize getting people off unlimited plans. If you're on a family plan, you might be able to save a few bucks with a shared data plan (but maybe not), otherwise it's just a few bonuses like officially supported tethering and facetime over lte (if you're an iPhone customer).

Peacebone
Sep 6, 2007
My dad wants to take me off the AT&T family plan and for me to go on my own. My dilemma is that I was going to use his upgrade for the new iPhone. Since my sister took my upgrade when she lost her phone last November. Seeing as I would like to stick with AT&T, and after doing some research I've come that these are my two options, correct me if I'm wrong please:

1. Use my dad's upgrade / get the phone and then do a transfer of billing
or
2. Dad terminates my line and I sign a new contract with AT&T with a whole new phone number allowing me to get the new iphone with upgrade pricing. (does that work?)

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Peacebone posted:

1. Use my dad's upgrade / get the phone and then do a transfer of billing
or
2. Dad terminates my line and I sign a new contract with AT&T with a whole new phone number allowing me to get the new iphone with upgrade new customer pricing. (does that work?)

Both are viable options.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

myron cope posted:

This is my data usage:

I have unlimited. Should I drop it?

Last month was an anomaly. One building I work at lost internet and I went a little crazy. I've used ~1.64GB this month with 13 days to go. And I don't have things set to only use wi-fi, which I could easily do and use even less data (I've used between 500MB and 1GB between Pocket Casts and the Google Play Store this month). The plan is 3GB for $20? Last time I looked on the website I couldn't see any plans to switch to.

Also is there any way that it could be to my advantage, like could I get something for it? I don't even know what I'd get, but I'm assuming AT&T wants people off unlimited plans?

3gb is $30. No advantage. Might as well keep it.


In other news, our store has an install date for OPUS mobile. So pumped purely because that means we get CHAIRS! We're getting remodeled in October.

Beefstorm fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Sep 6, 2013

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Peacebone posted:

My dad wants to take me off the AT&T family plan and for me to go on my own. My dilemma is that I was going to use his upgrade for the new iPhone. Since my sister took my upgrade when she lost her phone last November. Seeing as I would like to stick with AT&T, and after doing some research I've come that these are my two options, correct me if I'm wrong please:

1. Use my dad's upgrade / get the phone and then do a transfer of billing
or
2. Dad terminates my line and I sign a new contract with AT&T with a whole new phone number allowing me to get the new iphone with upgrade pricing. (does that work?)

Both are fine, bit with option two he pays whatever the ETF is.

Beefstorm posted:

In other news, our store has an install date for OPUS mobile. So pumped purely because that means we get CHAIRS! We're getting remodeled in October.

My store tends to be a test store, so we have had OPUS Mobile since last October. Honestly, its just overall better in every way, and the table setup is very nice.

The only downside is email is irritating to use on the iPads (you can't use the stock email app) so I use a desktop in the back.

Duckman2008 fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Sep 6, 2013

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Beefstorm posted:

3gb is $30. No advantage. Might as well keep it.


Wow, drat. I thought it was at least a little cheaper. Was it a recent change or has it always been $30? There's basically no incentive for me to either switch from unlimited or even try to use less data then. Except throttling? Do they still send a message when they start throttling or do they just do it without mentioning it anymore? Basically I'm wondering what the threshold is before they start slowing down my data speeds

c0ldfuse
Jun 18, 2004

The pursuit of excellence.

myron cope posted:

Wow, drat. I thought it was at least a little cheaper. Was it a recent change or has it always been $30? There's basically no incentive for me to either switch from unlimited or even try to use less data then. Except throttling? Do they still send a message when they start throttling or do they just do it without mentioning it anymore? Basically I'm wondering what the threshold is before they start slowing down my data speeds

I usually only get a message when I hit the ~5gig mark (twice in the last year). I say ~ because AT&T has hosed up data usage monitoring which isn't accurate.

I never noticed a slow down my highest usage was probably 5.5gigs.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

myron cope posted:

Wow, drat. I thought it was at least a little cheaper. Was it a recent change or has it always been $30? There's basically no incentive for me to either switch from unlimited or even try to use less data then. Except throttling? Do they still send a message when they start throttling or do they just do it without mentioning it anymore? Basically I'm wondering what the threshold is before they start slowing down my data speeds

I don't have personal experience (no unlimited for me) but according to the intranet, we send a message once ever warning you. Then you are just left to your own tracking methods, even if its a new billing cycle.

EDIT: Here's the official documentation.

quote:

Will customers receive notification in advance that they are approaching the threshold?

Yes. Customers will receive a text message when they use 95 % of 3GB (or 5GB for 4G LTE smartphones). The next time they exceed those levels, their speeds will be reduced without another text reminder.
Customers can always check their data usage in the current billing cycle by using their smartphone to dial *DATA# to receive a text message with detailed current data usage.

Beefstorm fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Sep 7, 2013

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!

Beefstorm posted:

I don't have personal experience (no unlimited for me) but according to the intranet, we send a message once ever warning you. Then you are just left to your own tracking methods, even if its a new billing cycle.
Anecdotal, but I've gotten this message twice. I would say 6-8mo apart, and was using different phones.

The official customer facing verbiage if anyone cares:

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy
There's a nationwide data outage. We know. However keep calling it in. The more information we have about the outage the better.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Beefstorm posted:

There's a nationwide data outage. We know. However keep calling it in. The more information we have about the outage the better.

I actually got a Saturday off, and it looks like o picked the right one. That being said, I haven't noticed anything with data issues all day in Philadelphia.

Sticky
Jan 1, 2006

Pornhub. XTube. I know these names, better than I know my own grandmothers.

Duckman2008 posted:

I actually got a Saturday off, and it looks like o picked the right one. That being said, I haven't noticed anything with data issues all day in Philadelphia.

We had some problems late night/over night here so hopefully it didn't impact much. Last weekend we got hit by a huge storm and had no service at all in the town where I am which made for a fun/exciting sunday.

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

Duckman2008 posted:

I actually got a Saturday off, and it looks like o picked the right one. That being said, I haven't noticed anything with data issues all day in Philadelphia.

Incase anyone was curious, it wasn't nationwide. A data node in Arlington WV failed and automatic failover didn't kick in.

frgildan
Apr 6, 2005

I went some place mum and everyday I woke up in that place and told myself I'm alive and I was.
I currently have a IPhone 4s with unlimited Internet. If I upgrade to the Note 3 will I have to give up the unlimited Internet?

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

frgildan posted:

I currently have a IPhone 4s with unlimited Internet. If I upgrade to the Note 3 will I have to give up the unlimited Internet?

No

Beefstorm
Jul 20, 2010

"It's not the size of the tower. It's the motion of the airwaves."
Lipstick Apathy

I'm just going to make this more obvious in the op.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
My Dad is on ATT with unlimited data, if I get him the new LTE enabled Nexus 7 would he be able to plug in his SIM from his iphone into the tablet and get LTE?

nimper
Jun 19, 2003

livin' in a hopium den

THF13 posted:

My Dad is on ATT with unlimited data, if I get him the new LTE enabled Nexus 7 would he be able to plug in his SIM from his iphone into the tablet and get LTE?

You probably don't want to do this. The iPhone SIM is provisioned for a smartphone data plan, and putting it into a device that AT&T's network knows is not a smartphone will cause problems.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

THF13 posted:

My Dad is on ATT with unlimited data, if I get him the new LTE enabled Nexus 7 would he be able to plug in his SIM from his iphone into the tablet and get LTE?

Beyond not being able to make phone calls, you would risk having ATT's system switch the plan to a tablet plan and thus losing unlimited. It could work, but its def do at your own risk.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004
Currently grandfathered into a 550 minute family plan with unlimited data + texts for $145 ish a month for two lines.

Line 1: Nexus 4 with 9 months left on the two year contract.
Line 2: iPhone 4S - contract free.

I am thinking of either dropping Line 2 from my family plan and just sticking with Line 1. How would I go about this and how much should I expect to pay for what I am receiving right now? Should I theoretically cancel both lines, pay the early termination fee, and switch to T-Mobile?

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Busy Bee posted:

Currently grandfathered into a 550 minute family plan with unlimited data + texts for $145 ish a month for two lines.

Line 1: Nexus 4 with 9 months left on the two year contract.
Line 2: iPhone 4S - contract free.

I am thinking of either dropping Line 2 from my family plan and just sticking with Line 1. How would I go about this and how much should I expect to pay for what I am receiving right now? Should I theoretically cancel both lines, pay the early termination fee, and switch to T-Mobile?

$90 before tax for 450min, unlimited text, and your unlimited data plan.

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Fcdts26
Mar 18, 2009
Do many people still open up extra lines for upgrades? I know financially it makes no sense but my wife's phone is destroyed and paying 650 for a new iPhone would be tough right now. We are a year out from being upgrade eligible. This would only be $10 more a month right? Plus the cost of the upgrade.

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