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Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Nauta posted:

You advertised your own lovely kickstarter in this thread and even admitted you're infringing copyrights? :psyduck:
Yeah, that kickstarter just ain't gonna happen in its current form, whether willingly or otherwise.

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deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off
I honestly and truly can't tell if MVP is trolling us.

If he is real, is he like 16? Because my friends and I designed a lovely Zelda clone engine in high school, but at least we had the clarity to recognize its intense shoddiness and not under any circumstances try to market it.

The engine read information about individual areas in from an external text file that specified the size and contents of the room. All the visual assets were ripped from Link to the Past :science:

New Ork City is like trying to market that thing as-is, hastily ripped sprites and all, with just the crappy test dungeon that we made as the sum total of its content.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

BattleMaster posted:

I don't know about the US, but here in Canada handcuff keys are illegal.

How do you have kinky sex using handcuffs if you can't unlock them?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Machai posted:

How do you have kinky sex using handcuffs if you can't unlock them?

You just slip out of them after lubing up in maple syrup.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Machai posted:

How do you have kinky sex using handcuffs if you can't unlock them?

Because it's only illegal if you have one on your person at the time of a LEO putting restraints on you.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

BattleMaster posted:

Because it's only illegal if you have one on your person at the time of a LEO putting restraints on you.

So if you get arrested while having kinky sex you're SOL?

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Electric Bugaloo posted:

So if you get arrested while having kinky sex you're SOL?

No, I think that just means you're in a porno.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
What if you're having kinky sex with a cop?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


FrozenVent posted:

What if you're having kinky sex with a cop?

Depends, is the cop an undercover agent posing as a hooker?

Catalyst-proof
May 11, 2011

better waste some time with you

Machai posted:

How do you have kinky sex using handcuffs if you can't unlock them?

Using real handcuffs for bondage is a really bad idea because they can cause injuries to the nerves in your wrists and hands. Use padded restraints.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Bad Munki posted:

Depends, is the cop an undercover agent posing as a hooker?

Well they would have to tell you if they're a cop if you ask so that's kind of moot.

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What if I told the hooker to tell me s/he was a cop, paid to be handcuffed, but it turned out I was the cop all along?

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

FrozenVent posted:

Well they would have to tell you if they're a cop if you ask so that's kind of moot.

Nope, that is an urban legend.

Blast of Confetti posted:

What if I told the hooker to tell me s/he was a cop, paid to be handcuffed, but it turned out I was the cop all along?

You'd have an incredibly specific fetish.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


DStecks posted:

Nope, that is an urban legend.
:thejoke:

quote:

You'd have an incredibly specific fetish.
And if you're both undercover cops, I think you have to get married.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

BattleMaster posted:

I don't know about the US, but here in Canada handcuff keys are illegal.

Not just actualy handcuff keys, a "handcuff key" is defined as anything on your person at the time of an arrest that is clearly intended to be able to release any restraints put on you. So anything from an actual handcuff key down to a paperclip concealed on your back with the intent of being used to jimmy flexcuffs loose. But legit honest-to-goodness handcuff keys like the one this is selling will be a lot less disputable in court than pretty much anything else.

You're crazy

Show me the criminal code section that states it is illegal to have a handcuff key.

You might want to tell all the stores and vendors selling them to EVERYONE

Stop being crazy

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Sappo569 posted:

You're crazy

Show me the criminal code section that states it is illegal to have a handcuff key.

You might want to tell all the stores and vendors selling them to EVERYONE

Stop being crazy

gently caress if I know but you must have missed the part where it wasn't a literal key that would get you in trouble but concealing an item that defeats restraints during an arrest. I consulted with a lawyer (member of our activist group) about how good/bad of an idea it would be to tape a paperclip to my back so I could loosen flexcuffs, since cops are really bad about putting them on way too tight. It turns out that it's a very bad idea to get caught trying to do that.

Edit: It may have been more like "you will get beat and charged with something generic like resisting arrest if they find one on you at the time, not that it is a charge in and of itself, I don't really feel like sifting through legalese when it isn't my job to find out

Seriously if you can't see why it's a bad idea then I don't know what to tell you.

BattleMaster has a new favorite as of 19:31 on Sep 6, 2013

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

I was joking before but I'm pretty sure that, in Texas at least, trying to gently caress with restraints is a good way to experience police brutality first hand.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

BattleMaster posted:

concealing an item that defeats restraints during an arrest. I consulted with a lawyer (member of our activist group) about how good/bad of an idea it would be to tape a paperclip to my back so I could loosen flexcuffs

A normal law abiding citizen would have zero issues with a handcuff key, let alone a paperclip in their pocket.

Someone concealing it with the purpose of 'loosening flexcuffs' while being lawfully arrested however.... ask your activist friends how that works out for them

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

Sappo569 posted:

A normal law abiding citizen would have zero issues with a handcuff key, let alone a paperclip in their pocket.

Someone concealing it with the purpose of 'loosening flexcuffs' while being lawfully arrested however.... ask your activist friends how that works out for them

So it's perfectly legal until you're in a position to actually use it, at which point it becomes a very bad idea to have it. Seems pretty pointless to buy one really, in a given situation you either don't need it or aren't allowed to have it.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Sappo569 posted:

Someone concealing it with the purpose of 'loosening flexcuffs' while being lawfully arrested however.... ask your activist friends how that works out for them

I did? As I said I literally asked a lawyer member of the group what legal consequences there would be.

Anyways the only reason to buy a handcuff key is really to look tough in front of other gently caress the police types. You try to actually use it to free yourself and... yeah

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

BattleMaster posted:

I did? As I said I literally asked a lawyer member of the group what legal consequences there would be.

Anyways the only reason to buy a handcuff key is really to look tough in front of other gently caress the police types. You try to actually use it to free yourself and... yeah

Only if you're not :black101: enough to actually get away.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

BattleMaster posted:

I did? As I said I literally asked a lawyer member of the group what legal consequences there would be.

Anyways the only reason to buy a handcuff key is really to look tough in front of other gently caress the police types. You try to actually use it to free yourself and... yeah

Or, you know... use it for its purpose, double-locking and unlocking handcuffs.

Legally there is nothing stopping you, but if you're dressed in all black and smashing store windows, ya the cops will certainly use that key/paperclip against you in court.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

BattleMaster posted:

I did? As I said I literally asked a lawyer member of the group what legal consequences there would be.

Anyways the only reason to buy a handcuff key is really to look tough in front of other gently caress the police types. You try to actually use it to free yourself and... yeah

What if there's an apocalypse and roving bands of ruffiants start kidnapping people and herding them for food? WHAT THEN? Is the law going to protect you then?

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Fatkraken posted:

So it's perfectly legal until you're in a position to actually use it, at which point it becomes a very bad idea to have it. Seems pretty pointless to buy one really, in a given situation you either don't need it or aren't allowed to have it.

Why is everyone so fixated on the average basement dwelling goon needing this?

It was obviously created for and is being marketed towards cops, security, etc.

Manifest
Jul 7, 2007

HELLO THERE I COME FROM THE FUTURE
My dad is a probation officer, and says that while not illegal, if a cop sees you have a handcuff key you're going to have your day ruined, because they assume you're up to shenanigans, and even if you aren't LOVE loving with people they feel are taunting them.

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

This is obviously a product for bad cops that get overpowered by perps and handcuffed with their own handcuffs. Or maybe for when your other cops buddies handcuff you and take your regular handcuff key.

Death Panel Czar
Apr 1, 2012

Too dangerous for a full sensory injection... That level of shitposting means they're almost non-human!

Sappo569 posted:

Why is everyone so fixated on the average basement dwelling goon needing this?

It was obviously created for and is being marketed towards cops, security, etc.
It might have something to do with the tagline "Evade Unlawful Handcuff Restraint", which reads like a way to say "evade unlawful arrest" without mentioning arrest specifically. Or that picture full of geardo magazines/blogs as opposed to actual industry sites. Or the fact that those sites report on it very explicitly stating they are for evading arrest.

http://www.gadgetreview.com/2013/08/tihk-key.html posted:

Getting arrested isn’t fun, obviously. But what if you’re unlawfully handcuffed for no good reason? Most likely, you won’t do anything if you’re illegally restrained with handcuffs, fearing punishment if you fight or question the law.
More versatile or outright better products already exist. No law enforcement officer is buying new and different backup keys on the internet because they read about one in Tacticool Freeman Monthly and realized they needed an "unlawful restraint solution". At least out here they aren't, maybe wherever you live the cops get handcuffed all the time and read about "Trucks, Guns, and Girls!" or Nerf guns while eating canned bacon.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

If they were serious, they'd make it so the key so that could be swallowed and regurgitated or crapped out. The problem with the "law enforcement hoisted by their own petard" scenario is that it's a long-term scenario. If you're a LEO or spy or whatever, it's the capture that lasts more than a few hours you have to worry about and one where you could easily get a key without detection.

Also, pretty much all handcuffs are universal, anyways.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

yaoi prophet posted:

Except the prototype Magic cards made in the 90s were still more professional-looking than something drawn in crayon with hand-written rules text:



I like that Wrath of God image more than what's actually been used in MTG.

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING
I don't know if I'm so comfortable with what Manifest's dad has to say. The police have kind of shown that their entire livelihood is pretty much an abusive, bad-faith relationship with the public. I'm automatically suspicious of any cop who takes any excuse to "gently caress with" someone.

Dr. Buttass has a new favorite as of 08:25 on Sep 7, 2013

SpitefulHammer
Dec 27, 2012

Xenocidebot posted:

It might have something to do with the tagline "Evade Unlawful Handcuff Restraint", which reads like a way to say "evade unlawful arrest" without mentioning arrest specifically. Or that picture full of geardo magazines/blogs as opposed to actual industry sites. Or the fact that those sites report on it very explicitly stating they are for evading arrest.

More versatile or outright better products already exist. No law enforcement officer is buying new and different backup keys on the internet because they read about one in Tacticool Freeman Monthly and realized they needed an "unlawful restraint solution". At least out here they aren't, maybe wherever you live the cops get handcuffed all the time and read about "Trucks, Guns, and Girls!" or Nerf guns while eating canned bacon.

That shoelace key really is a superior product - since it even acts as a tether you don't have to worry about fumbling and dropping the key. You drop the indie gogo key and you're screwed.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
If you're able to use that shoelace key while cuffed, you pretty much could get out of the cuffs without it and also you're a rogue member of Circ d'Soleil

I'm not clear on what the exact scenario is where the cops cuff you and then pretty much just leave you there so you can do whatever elaborate squat-dancing routine to get at your secret agent key/decoder ring, but then again you'd need pretty much same to get out of custody even once you're out of the cuffs. Unlock in the back of the pigmobile and jump 'em when they open up to bring you out?

It'd work pretty well I guess if you put those laces on a good pair of running shoes, and also used those to never get caught and cuffed in the first place.

Tubgirl Cosplay has a new favorite as of 17:31 on Sep 7, 2013

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Remember Gridiron Thunder, that mediocre football game for the OUYA from several pages ago that had a suspiciously high amount of funding from a suspiciously low number of backers? Well, another game competing for the OUYA Free The Games fund has been suspended by Kickstarter for activity linked to "suspicious accounts" (even though its funding chart looks much more like a typical Kickstarter). Am I being paranoid or does it look like OUYA is gaming the system and (trying to) use Kickstarter to generate even more publicity? :tinfoil:

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Mr.Radar posted:

Remember Gridiron Thunder, that mediocre football game for the OUYA from several pages ago that had a suspiciously high amount of funding from a suspiciously low number of backers? Well, another game competing for the OUYA Free The Games fund has been suspended by Kickstarter for activity linked to "suspicious accounts" (even though its funding chart looks much more like a typical Kickstarter). Am I being paranoid or does it look like OUYA is gaming the system and (trying to) use Kickstarter to generate even more publicity? :tinfoil:

I think it's more likely that the OUYA is for some reason attracting money launderers to Kickstarter.

SupSuper
Apr 8, 2009

At the Heart of the city is an Alien horror, so vile and so powerful that not even death can claim it.

Mr.Radar posted:

Remember Gridiron Thunder, that mediocre football game for the OUYA from several pages ago that had a suspiciously high amount of funding from a suspiciously low number of backers? Well, another game competing for the OUYA Free The Games fund has been suspended by Kickstarter for activity linked to "suspicious accounts" (even though its funding chart looks much more like a typical Kickstarter). Am I being paranoid or does it look like OUYA is gaming the system and (trying to) use Kickstarter to generate even more publicity? :tinfoil:
Elementary My Dear Watson might've had a "typical" funding chart but it was posted everywhere that it had tons of made-up backer accounts, so it's hardly surprising Kickstarter took notice and shut it down.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

TheJoker138 posted:

I think it's more likely that the OUYA is for some reason attracting money launderers to Kickstarter.
OUYA is doubling crowd funding if you break $50,000 on Kickstarter, so if you cheat your way to $50k with fake backers you're basically getting free money. Even if you for some reason had fully loaded accounts (i.e. paid the $50k to yourself), you'd lose ~10-15% on fees and make a tidy 85% RoI. If you have the accounts with only, say, $1 in them, you end up getting genuine pledges from Kickstarter (which would then be well under $50k) but the doubling from OUYA anyway, making an even higher RoI. Seems much more scammy/fraudulent than money laundering.

MrAptronym
Jan 4, 2007

"...And then there was Bitcoin."
Okay, I have to admit. I feel bad for the hot dog guy, and I want him to succeed. I know he won't, but drat do I want it. Some of these hopeless and/or sperglord entries are just too sad for me.

I feel like I am missing something with the silent recording. It would be really cool to have very high quality, amplified recordings of silent natural places, but a low quality recorder shipped off to a random crater in hawaii? (I went there on a geology trip, was hoping I could tell which crater it was, and lord my knowledge, I can't.) She could just set the recorder on in her basement and no one would be the wiser.

I do want to see one of these horribly inept kickstarters get funded and actually ship. Not one where they crumple and squander the money, but where they actually ship an awful game or stupid 'AsSeenOnTV' product no one wants. I guess the Ouya is like this, but there isn't anything funny about it, its just run of the mill bad.

bend it like baked ham
Feb 16, 2009

Fries.
In case you don't know, there's a KS for a video game that's just been suspended because it appears that the creators made a few hundred fake accounts in order to qualify for the prize money of a contest. Some guy who legitimately backed the game had this to say:

quote:

That's exactly what I'm talking about - Kickstarter needs to start being transparent where legally possible, without trust their whole business model of crowd-funding will fall apart. Currently they are making the creators solely responsible, with no commitment to transparency from the platform owners themselves.

Word. If KS can't provide a trusted platform then they're hosed.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002
Within the past month or so, a whole bunch of little startups have been taking preorders for smart watches (possibly related to Apple announcing plans to develop one and Samsung planning on selling one in about a month). Most of them have been making an honest effort to balance functionality with fashion, trying to give the watch a usable screen while making it look as close to not-geeky as possible. These people apparently just said "gently caress it" and designed a smart phone with a wrist strap:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/androidly-smartwatch

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Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
Cornering the key Dick Tracy market.

I wonder how long you can use it before it heats up to like 4000F

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