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If it wasn't already obvious enough, the preview for the next episode all but confirmed that Annie is the Female Titan.Preview for Episode 23 posted:
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Serious question regarding the latest manga chapter: Who here DOESN'T think Eren is going to flip the gently caress out and get people killed?
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Sep 8, 2013 05:22
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OnimaruXLR posted:Serious question regarding the latest manga chapter: If Eren doesn't flip out and get people killed it'll be the first time. Plus he's in a situation where a mentally balanced and completely reasonable person would understandably loose their poo poo. So he's going to super flip the gently caress out in probably the most epic of ways.
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Sep 8, 2013 05:33
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OnimaruXLR posted:Serious question regarding the latest manga chapter: I think the real question is who's going to get killed. Eren won't pass up the chance to go titan and try to evaporate our old friend. It makes sense. He's been raging the whole time and trying to go titan to gently caress some poo poo up, and I'm willing to believe that he's still hung up over that his hesitation in the past got people killed. No, he'll try to fight unless he is physically impeded from doing so. If that happens, he'll be going through another lap on the "Look at what a useless poo poo you are" track. If he transforms and gets someone important killed, then he's going to be trapped. He hesitates, and people die. He doesn't hold back, and people die. That could be interesting, but I don't know what it'd do to him. Maybe he'd be consumed by that despair and turn into a mindless titan forever. He sees whoever getting killed, a close up on his titan eye or something, and then just a panel of him standing in a burning, human and titan corpse ridden field. He roars into the sky, then goes off to terrorize the countryside as a monster that murders whatever he comes across. It'd be like the end of Devilman in that Amon spin-off/rewrite of the ending, though you can't end it on that since we've got so much poo poo to tie up. I wouldn't mind seeing Eren, a collection of basic shonen hero stereotypes pushed to ugly extremes, gaining an inhuman power-up and then being consumed by that power and turning into an unrecognizable monstrosity.
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Sep 8, 2013 05:51
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JosephWongKS posted:Admittedly, she's already got a knack for causing people to deify her. Now she just needs to find a way to use her worshippers to gain her power. So Historia is basically Buggy from One Piece.
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Sep 8, 2013 06:07
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OnimaruXLR posted:Serious question regarding the latest manga chapter: I imagine he's going to immediately demand that Mikasa break his bindings or injure him so he can go on a murder/revenge spree. Mr. Isayama has been clearly building up Eren's frustration for this moment. Everything that has happened recently, feeling emotionally vulnerable after being betrayed by bert and ernie physically and emotionally, "Everyone is going to die because I got captured" and so on. It'll be more surprising if he doesn't light the match.
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Sep 8, 2013 06:09
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Eren is going to fall into despair because Mikasa will drag him away with her last strength instead of freeing him to go on a rampage and finally do something after all this failure and loss of lives. Mikasa is going to fall into despair because she had to save Eren from himself, and now he hates her for it. She alienated the most important person to her.
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Sep 8, 2013 06:14
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Nelson Mandingo posted:It'll be more surprising if he doesn't light the match. It's confirmed, Erin will not be lighting the match.
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Sep 8, 2013 06:22
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onepixeljumpman posted:I wouldn't mind seeing Eren, a collection of basic shonen hero stereotypes pushed to ugly extremes, gaining an inhuman power-up and then being consumed by that power and turning into an unrecognizable monstrosity. I don't think pure murderous rage paired with primal will to live fit into this collection. Also, so far the way he powers up has been through regaining humanity and control over his Titan form, not losing them. He almost beat Armored Titan by using his human hand-to-hand combat skills. The only "inhuman" power-up I see him getting is being able to transform into a specific type of Titan depending on the task at hand: he's already done something like that on instinct. rvm fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 8, 2013 06:23
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My personal  theory is that our old friend will eat bert or ymir and regain his humanity and then get captured in human form by the recon corps. Then of course we would get to see them having to restrain Eren/Mikasa from just beating him to death in his sleep. Yeah, I like to dream big...
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Sep 8, 2013 07:10
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My bet is that the titans are actually normal size and the people are all tiny. That would explain the forest of giant trees.
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Sep 8, 2013 07:16
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Fister Roboto posted:My bet is that the titans are actually normal size and the people are all tiny. That would explain the forest of giant trees.
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Sep 8, 2013 07:24
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Theres been some parallels between Levi and Mikasa, Armin and Erwin, but who is Eren's parallel? Some friend they lost a long time ago?
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Sep 8, 2013 07:48
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Kild posted:Theres been some parallels between Levi and Mikasa, Armin and Erwin, but who is Eren's parallel? Some friend they lost a long time ago?
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Sep 8, 2013 08:01
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Kild posted:Theres been some parallels between Levi and Mikasa, Armin and Erwin, but who is Eren's parallel? Some friend they lost a long time ago? 
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Sep 8, 2013 08:38
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DrSunshine posted:So Historia is basically Buggy from One Piece. You've got artistic skill. You can make this a reality. You know what you must do, Sunshine-san.
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Sep 8, 2013 09:40
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I didn't realize until this episode that the reason Levi was injured saving Mikasa was because he twisted his ankle or something. It wasn't very clear in the comic.
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Sep 8, 2013 09:42
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Now I want to see a timeskip where an older Eren just got so angry he just became loving weird like Hanji and everyone has to deal with a supremely eccentric titan shifter all the time. 
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Sep 8, 2013 09:45
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Jackard posted:I didn't realize until this episode that the reason Levi was injured saving Mikasa was because he twisted his ankle or something. It wasn't very clear in the comic. Mikasa outright states this though, I think? Something along the lines of "I have to perform well, since it's my fault humanity's greatest soldier is injured". E: Oh, I think I misread that. Never mind the above then.
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Sep 8, 2013 09:58
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In the other thread, Thumbtacks posted:On that note why do people insist on drawing ymir and christa like a couple? It seems popular in the fanfic realm and then in episodes when I see them together in the same shot (which happens a lot, coincidentally), that's the only thing I think of.
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Sep 8, 2013 10:15
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Jackard posted:Pretty sure Ymir hasn't been named in the anime yet. You might want to edit that out. You're in the wrong thread.
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Sep 8, 2013 11:22
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Given his performance against Reiner earlier, Eren transforming might actually save lives at this point.
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Sep 8, 2013 14:54
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I don't recall the insubordinate soldiers luring titans to the column on the way back to the walls being in the manga, is my memory faulty or are they adding filler? Because that could mean we might get the cut to black after the wall-titan face reveal .
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Sep 8, 2013 16:10
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The entire scene with the corpses was filler.
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Sep 8, 2013 16:15
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AndroidHub posted:I don't recall the insubordinate soldiers luring titans to the column on the way back to the walls being in the manga, is my memory faulty or are they adding filler? Because that could mean we might get the cut to black after the wall-titan face reveal Everything in between them rescuing Eren and him waking up was anime original stuff, also all the dead Survey Corps family scenes apart from from the bit with Petra's dad.
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Sep 8, 2013 16:16
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Regarding the population within the wall being "descendants if demons," I'm guessing that the society within the walls unleashed Titanification on a mass scale on the world. Having a stronghold created using highly co-ordinated Titan technology ready to go is a little too convenient. Basically, the leaders of the society that retreated behind the walks saw the option to "go nuclear" with the Titan technology, and decided to launch a massive first strike while taking shelter within a giant bunker. Perhaps there is even a way to turn off the mindless Titans when they are confident the entire world had been depopulated. Or maybe the plan was just to use Titan warriors (maybe even awakened wall Titans) to clear out the mindless ones. That would probably justify genocide in the minds of a few brainwashed kids. Especially before they realized that the population at large were ignorant victims rather than complicit in the scheme. That would provide a pretty clear character arc for Eren, realizing that the source of his rage isn't an inhuman external enemy that can be smashed with burning shonen spirit, but his own leaders who require subtlety to overthrow and even more work to replace with an actually better alternative. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 8, 2013 16:58
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j4on posted:The entire scene with the corpses was filler. And didn't make much sense. Since Titans try to eat humans and the Survey Corps rarely holds ground recovery of bodies should be the exception and not the norm. And this situation certainly wasn't the exception. For all they knew Annie was just behind them.
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Sep 8, 2013 17:11
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Hodgepodge posted:Regarding the population within the wall being "descendants if demons," "Descendants of demons" was a rough translation of Bert swearing at Armin. Let's not spin any theories off that. http://readms.com/r/attack_on_titan/49/2046/34
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Sep 8, 2013 17:45
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Shieldhill posted:"Descendants of demons" was a rough translation of Bert swearing at Armin. Let's not spin any theories off that. Still, it's clear that there is some serious animosity from Bert and Ernie's faction towards the wall-dwellers. They likely did something very bad and the government is clearly corrupt and undergoing a massive conspiracy.
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Sep 8, 2013 17:57
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I'm more interested in explaining why Bert and Ernie thought genocide was not only justifiable, but necessary. And the fact that there were convenient Titan-walls available for one group to retreat to. The factor that is unexplained by this theory is Sasquatch-Titan, who can create and control other Titans, but who is evidently not from within the walls.
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Sep 8, 2013 18:14
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Early humans made a pact with the sasquatch alien titans to wipe out their enemies and this is the result. The remains being whatever Bert and Ernies village is.
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Sep 8, 2013 18:45
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rvm posted:I don't think pure murderous rage paired with primal will to live fit into this collection. Also, so far the way he powers up has been through regaining humanity and control over his Titan form, not losing them. He almost beat Armored Titan by using his human hand-to-hand combat skills. The only "inhuman" power-up I see him getting is being able to transform into a specific type of Titan depending on the task at hand: he's already done something like that on instinct. That's why I said "pushed to ugly extremes." Eren is a teenage male supported by a male and female friend trying to make his place in an organization so that he can pursue a single minded goal that is driven both by a childhood trauma and an emotion or idea that consumes most of his personality which, along with his and a parental figure's mysterious past, allowed him to gain a power beyond his race's initial understanding. The only major difference is his single minded goal is flatly "murder all of something" instead of "become the best/the king of/one who found/one who created something by murdering or beating the poo poo out of everyone who gets in my way" driven by honest "rage" instead "friendship/love/competitive drive/rivalry that's used to justify fits of rage." Also, primal survival instinct is totally a basic shonen hero trait. And becoming a titan, or gaining a super form, is the inhuman power-up I mean. Seeing him gain control over that power slowly by forcing himself to believe it can result in good then cracking completely and becoming a monster after repeated trauma capping off with the loss of someone very dear is something totally in line with this manga. It's also why I made the comparison to Akira Fudo. Anyway Hodgepodge posted:I'm more interested in explaining why Bert and Ernie thought genocide was not only justifiable, but necessary. And the fact that there were convenient Titan-walls available for one group to retreat to. He might not be, but that doesn't mean his ability isn't. I'm currently on board with the theory that all the potential uses for titans as military weapons are all things the central city people already know, and current titan faction attacks are happening because they want the secrets they haven't managed to reproduce on their own.
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Sep 8, 2013 19:19
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The other thing is that all of the main characters with the exception of Levi, Irwin and Hanje/Zoe is that they're still children. Armin is only 15 years old in this current arc, and the rest range from 16-18/19ish. You're not going to get a lot of competent soldiers when you're sending children who watched their mother get eaten by a monster to fight those monsters. Thank god the artist isn't interested in making another One Piece type story where people just have to scream louder and punch harder to solve their problems.
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Sep 8, 2013 19:29
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Fister Roboto posted:My bet is that the titans are actually normal size and the people are all tiny. That would explain the forest of giant trees. There are trees that big in the real world too.
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Sep 8, 2013 20:49
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Hodgepodge posted:I'm more interested in explaining why Bert and Ernie thought genocide was not only justifiable, but necessary. And the fact that there were convenient Titan-walls available for one group to retreat to. The only place to break through the wall is the gate. It's either kill the human shields or do nothing. Annie, Reiner and Bert are starting to make a lot more sense.
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Sep 8, 2013 21:48
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cooldude2.0 posted:The only place to break through the wall is the gate. It's either kill the human shields or do nothing. Annie, Reiner and Bert are starting to make a lot more sense. Except the Sasquatch climbed over the wall and Annie was in the middle of doing it when she got caught.
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Sep 8, 2013 21:51
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Simstim posted:Except the Sasquatch climbed over the wall and Annie was in the middle of doing it when she got caught. I think Reiner also did it off screen when Bert knocked everyone out.
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Sep 8, 2013 21:56
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Pensive posted:I think Reiner also did it off screen when Bert knocked everyone out. They were on the Wall Maria side during the whole fight I think. Still it's a good point that intelligent titans can climb the wall and normal ones cannot.
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Sep 8, 2013 22:37
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In his darkest hour, Reiner must resort to his special move:
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Sep 8, 2013 22:50
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I wouldn't be totally surprised if there are "normal" humans living out in the open along with titan-humans. The only difference being that the normal humans didn't use titan bodies to build a wall. Seems to me, the main beef the titans might have with the humans living behind the walls is the fact they built the walls out of titans. This theory doesn't explain why titans eat humans (for no apparent reason as they are not a food source, etc.). It might explain the animosity, though. I really hope the story begins to answer some questions soon. Right now, we're in the middle of a tug-of-war between the titans and the humans as to who gets to keep Eren. This tug-of-war basically started when Annie attempted to steal Eren away during that first expedition. There's been some minor developments, but I feel like we're back to square one. We already knew the titans wanted/needed Eren. They've made another play for him. If things don't change soon, I'm going to go from really enthralled to really bored and annoyed.
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