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kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison


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grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.


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A touchscreen guitar

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in case you didnt notice thats $750 to awkwardly play a lovely touchscreen two-string guitar

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

american beer absolutely crushes 99% of european beer sorry


unless were talking belgians or something actually drinkable

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
you can call me the illaerator

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

why did they slow his audio down?

penus de milo
Mar 9, 2002

CHAR CHAR
americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

american beer absolutely crushes 99% of european beer sorry


unless were talking belgians or something actually drinkable

lol

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord

penus de milo posted:

americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

penus de milo posted:

americans discover microbrews, naturally they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

penus de milo posted:

americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

ok well

british beer is great, belgians ive already stated are pretty good, but the rest are bland. german, the one french beer 1664), the slavic territories all put out really uninspired beer.

america is leading the forefront in actually Trying New Things With Beer. europes beer scene has stagnated. england is starting to pick it the gently caress up which is cool but england also tries to distance themselves from the rest of europe.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

penus de milo posted:

americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

joke's on you
we literally are

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

ok well

british beer is great, belgians ive already stated are pretty good, but the rest are bland. german, the one french beer 1664), the slavic territories all put out really uninspired beer.

america is leading the forefront in actually Trying New Things With Beer. europes beer scene has stagnated. england is starting to pick it the gently caress up which is cool but england also tries to distance themselves from the rest of europe.

:allears:

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
i mean it's cool that you can still drink the same beer they were drinking 500 years ago but geuze how about trying something new

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

hey if someone wants to recommend some beer from countries who may or may not have legal standards about what can be called "beer" and what isnt i would love to try them

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
seriously beer is the only american institution i'm actually proud of

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

hey if someone wants to recommend some beer from countries who may or may not have legal standards about what can be called "beer" and what isnt i would love to try them

it doesn't get much more legal than the reinheitsgebot. if you don't dig a good hefeweizen i just... smdh

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

though i suppose wheat beer violates the original reinheitsgebot. oops

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
did americans invent hamburgers? because those are legit good when not taken to ludicrous levels

a 6 oz charbroiled hamburger with relish, ketchup, onions, lettuce, tomatoes is a thing of beauty

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
welp guess who's burgin' tonight?

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
beer drinkers are also one of the only tolerable groups in america

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

how do you "invent" a hamburger? you just put some meat on a grill and bam. hamburger.

Vicas
Dec 9, 2009

Sweet tricks, mom.
it doesn't help that beer really doesn't hold up well when it travels overseas, so all european beer here is either stuff brewed in bulk in st louis or had its taste ruined while it shipped

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Werthog 95 posted:

how do you "invent" a hamburger? you just put some meat on a grill and bam. hamburger.

i watched some anthony bourdain thing where a really high level french chef was making a hamburger. he put american cheese on it and was like 'yeah, gently caress the haters american cheese goes on hamburgers'

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Werthog 95 posted:

it doesn't get much more legal than the reinheitsgebot. if you don't dig a good hefeweizen i just... smdh

wheat beers are pretty bad no matter where theyre from

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Cold on a Cob posted:

did americans invent hamburgers? because those are legit good when not taken to ludicrous levels

a 6 oz charbroiled hamburger with relish, ketchup, onions, lettuce, tomatoes is a thing of beauty

most "american" food is actual german food or heavily influenced by german food

i assume americans came up with that condiment spread though

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
it's definitely inspired by german cuisine, but there's apparently a lot of contention about who invented it according to wikipedia




Claims of invention[edit source | editbeta]
Louis Lassen[edit source | editbeta]
The Library of Congress has officially declared that Louis Lassen of Louis' Lunch, a small lunch wagon in New Haven, Connecticut, sold the first hamburger and steak sandwich in the U.S. in 1900.[8][9][10] New York magazine states that, "The dish actually had no name until some rowdy sailors from Hamburg named the meat on a bun after themselves years later", noting also that this claim is subject to dispute.[11] A customer ordered a quick hot meal and Louis was out of steaks. Taking ground beef trimmings, Louis made a patty and grilled it, putting it between two slices of toast.[6] Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted.[12]
Charlie Nagreen[edit source | editbeta]
One of the earliest claims comes from Charlie Nagreen, who in 1885 sold a meatball between two slices of bread at the Seymour Fair[13] now called the Outagamie County Fair in some attributions.[12] The Seymour Community Historical Society of Seymour, Wisconsin, credits Charlie Nagreen, now known as "Hamburger Charlie", with the invention of the hamburger. Nagreen was fifteen when he reportedly made sandwiches out of porks that he was selling at the 1885 Seymour Fair (now the Outagamie County Fair), so that customers could eat while walking. The Historical Society explains that Nagreen named the hamburger after the Hamburg steak with which local German immigrants were familiar.[14][15]
Otto Kuase[edit source | editbeta]
According to White Castle, Otto Kuase was the inventor of the hamburger. In 1891 he created a beef patty cooked in butter, topped with a fried egg. German sailors would later omit the fried egg.[6]
Oscar Weber Bilby[edit source | editbeta]
Another claim attributes the invention of the hamburger to Oscar Weber Bilby in 1891.[5][16][17][18] The family of Oscar Weber Bilby claim the first-known hamburger on a bun was served on Grandpa Oscar's farm using a yeast bun on the Fourth of July.[19] In 1995, Governor Frank Keating proclaimed that the first true hamburger on a bun was created and consumed in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1891; calling Tulsa, "The Real Birthplace of the Hamburger."[20]
Frank and Charles Menches[edit source | editbeta]
Another claim from 1885 comes from Frank and Charles Menches who claims to have sold a ground beef sandwich at the Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York.[12] During the fair, they ran out of pork sausage for their sandwiches and substituted beef.[13] Kunzog, who spoke to Frank Menches, says they exhausted their supply of sausage, so purchased chopped up beef from a butcher, Andrew Klein. Though historian Joseph Streamer wrote that the meat was from Stein's market not Klein's; despite Stein having sold the market in 1874.[13] The story notes that the origin of the hamburger comes from Hamburg, New York not Hamburg Germany.[13] Yet Frank Menches's obituary in The New York Times states that these events took place at the 1892 Summit County Fair in Akron, Ohio.[21]
Fletcher Davis[edit source | editbeta]
Fletcher Davis of Athens, Texas claimed to have invented the hamburger. According to oral histories, in the 1880s, he opened a lunch counter in Athens and served a 'burger' of fried ground beef patties with mustard and Bermuda onion between two slices of bread; with a pickle on the side.[6] The claim is that in 1904, Davis and his wife Ciddy ran a sandwich stand at the St. Louis World's Fair.[6] Historian Frank X. Tolbert, noted that Athen's resident Clint Murchison said his grandfather dated the hamburger to the 1880s with 'Old Dave' a.k.a. Fletcher Davis.[13] A photo of "Old Dave's Hamburger Stand" from the 1904 connection was sent to Tolbert as evidence of the claim.[13] Also the New York Tribune namelessly attributed the innovation of the hamburger to the stand on the pike.[6]
Other hamburger-steak claims[edit source | editbeta]
Various non-specific claims of the hamburgers invention relates to the term hamburger steak, but no mention of it being a sandwich. The first printed American menu which listed hamburger was claimed to be an 1826 menu from Delmonico's in New York.[22] However,the printer of the original menu was not in business in 1834.[19] In 1889, a menu from Walla Wall Union in Washington offered hamburger steak as a menu item.[6]
Between 1871–1884, “Hamburg Beefsteak” was on the “Breakfast and Supper Menu” of the Clipper Restaurant at 311/313 Pacific Street in San Fernando. It cost 10 cents—the same price as mutton chops, pig’s feet in batter, and stewed veal. It was not, however, on the dinner menu, only “Pig’s Head” “Calf Tongue” and “Stewed Kidneys” were listed.[23]
Another claim ties the hamburger to Summit County, New York or Ohio. Summit County, Ohio exists, but Summit County, New York does not.[13]

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
tl;dr: a bunch of different americans independently claim they invented the hamburger in the late 19th century

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise
"Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted."


hold the gently caress on who isnt toasting their buns

cmon guys

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

"Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted."


hold the gently caress on who isnt toasting their buns

cmon guys

oh yeah, a toasted bun is like, mandatory. wtf.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

penus de milo posted:

americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever

its a safe assumption

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

chumpchous posted:

seriously beer is the only american institution i'm actually proud of

i was going to make some comment about porn but now im not so certain

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

chumpchous posted:

i watched some anthony bourdain thing where a really high level french chef was making a hamburger. he put american cheese on it and was like 'yeah, gently caress the haters american cheese goes on hamburgers'
gently caress that guy, pepper jack is what goes on boigs

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Cold on a Cob posted:

tl;dr: a bunch of different americans independently claim they invented the hamburger in the late 19th century

it may or may not be an American invention, but America definitely perfected it.

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
lol yeah european porn is still trapped in the 70s so it's a similar comparison

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

chumpchous posted:

lol yeah european porn is still trapped in the 70s so it's a similar comparison

see idk the top notch camwhores are all european somethingorothers

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

top notch camwhores

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooddddsssss

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Sham bam bamina! posted:

gently caress that guy, pepper jack is what goes on boigs

nah jack is also not really cheese but it's more cheese than american so rather than going all out with the processing and making it awesome it's just a lovely in betweener


Dead Inside Darwin posted:

see idk the top notch camwhores are all european somethingorothers

eastern europe doesn't count i guess

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Dead Inside Darwin posted:

wheat beers are pretty bad no matter where theyre from

this gimmick of having the worst possible opinions is just getting tired.

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Werthog 95 posted:

this gimmick of having the worst possible opinions is just getting tired.

oh no someone likes a different beer style

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duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

yesterday i had a ballast point sculpin ipa, it was p. good

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