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winesynpe
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# ? Sep 7, 2013 01:08 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 04:58 |
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quote:Everything is currently attached by Velcro. This so far seems to have many upsides quote:Pledge $750 or more quote:Pledge $750 or more quote:$750 in case you didnt notice thats $750 to awkwardly play a lovely touchscreen two-string guitar
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 03:56 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:american beer absolutely crushes 99% of european beer sorry
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 06:29 |
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you can call me the illaerator
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 06:30 |
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Migishu posted:as neat an idea this is, holy poo poo this is the most pretentious loving infomercial why did they slow his audio down?
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 06:49 |
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americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 10:03 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:american beer absolutely crushes 99% of european beer sorry lol
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 10:32 |
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penus de milo posted:americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:39 |
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penus de milo posted:americans discover microbrews, naturally they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:40 |
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penus de milo posted:americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever ok well british beer is great, belgians ive already stated are pretty good, but the rest are bland. german, the one french beer 1664), the slavic territories all put out really uninspired beer. america is leading the forefront in actually Trying New Things With Beer. europes beer scene has stagnated. england is starting to pick it the gently caress up which is cool but england also tries to distance themselves from the rest of europe.
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:43 |
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penus de milo posted:americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever joke's on you we literally are
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:44 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:ok well
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:45 |
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i mean it's cool that you can still drink the same beer they were drinking 500 years ago but geuze how about trying something new
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:45 |
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hey if someone wants to recommend some beer from countries who may or may not have legal standards about what can be called "beer" and what isnt i would love to try them
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:46 |
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seriously beer is the only american institution i'm actually proud of
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:51 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:hey if someone wants to recommend some beer from countries who may or may not have legal standards about what can be called "beer" and what isnt i would love to try them it doesn't get much more legal than the reinheitsgebot. if you don't dig a good hefeweizen i just... smdh
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:54 |
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though i suppose wheat beer violates the original reinheitsgebot. oops
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:55 |
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did americans invent hamburgers? because those are legit good when not taken to ludicrous levels a 6 oz charbroiled hamburger with relish, ketchup, onions, lettuce, tomatoes is a thing of beauty
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:56 |
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welp guess who's burgin' tonight?
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:56 |
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beer drinkers are also one of the only tolerable groups in america
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:58 |
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how do you "invent" a hamburger? you just put some meat on a grill and bam. hamburger.
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:58 |
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it doesn't help that beer really doesn't hold up well when it travels overseas, so all european beer here is either stuff brewed in bulk in st louis or had its taste ruined while it shipped
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 17:58 |
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Werthog 95 posted:how do you "invent" a hamburger? you just put some meat on a grill and bam. hamburger. i watched some anthony bourdain thing where a really high level french chef was making a hamburger. he put american cheese on it and was like 'yeah, gently caress the haters american cheese goes on hamburgers'
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:00 |
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Werthog 95 posted:it doesn't get much more legal than the reinheitsgebot. if you don't dig a good hefeweizen i just... smdh wheat beers are pretty bad no matter where theyre from
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:08 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:did americans invent hamburgers? because those are legit good when not taken to ludicrous levels most "american" food is actual german food or heavily influenced by german food i assume americans came up with that condiment spread though
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:09 |
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it's definitely inspired by german cuisine, but there's apparently a lot of contention about who invented it according to wikipedia Claims of invention[edit source | editbeta] Louis Lassen[edit source | editbeta] The Library of Congress has officially declared that Louis Lassen of Louis' Lunch, a small lunch wagon in New Haven, Connecticut, sold the first hamburger and steak sandwich in the U.S. in 1900.[8][9][10] New York magazine states that, "The dish actually had no name until some rowdy sailors from Hamburg named the meat on a bun after themselves years later", noting also that this claim is subject to dispute.[11] A customer ordered a quick hot meal and Louis was out of steaks. Taking ground beef trimmings, Louis made a patty and grilled it, putting it between two slices of toast.[6] Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted.[12] Charlie Nagreen[edit source | editbeta] One of the earliest claims comes from Charlie Nagreen, who in 1885 sold a meatball between two slices of bread at the Seymour Fair[13] now called the Outagamie County Fair in some attributions.[12] The Seymour Community Historical Society of Seymour, Wisconsin, credits Charlie Nagreen, now known as "Hamburger Charlie", with the invention of the hamburger. Nagreen was fifteen when he reportedly made sandwiches out of porks that he was selling at the 1885 Seymour Fair (now the Outagamie County Fair), so that customers could eat while walking. The Historical Society explains that Nagreen named the hamburger after the Hamburg steak with which local German immigrants were familiar.[14][15] Otto Kuase[edit source | editbeta] According to White Castle, Otto Kuase was the inventor of the hamburger. In 1891 he created a beef patty cooked in butter, topped with a fried egg. German sailors would later omit the fried egg.[6] Oscar Weber Bilby[edit source | editbeta] Another claim attributes the invention of the hamburger to Oscar Weber Bilby in 1891.[5][16][17][18] The family of Oscar Weber Bilby claim the first-known hamburger on a bun was served on Grandpa Oscar's farm using a yeast bun on the Fourth of July.[19] In 1995, Governor Frank Keating proclaimed that the first true hamburger on a bun was created and consumed in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1891; calling Tulsa, "The Real Birthplace of the Hamburger."[20] Frank and Charles Menches[edit source | editbeta] Another claim from 1885 comes from Frank and Charles Menches who claims to have sold a ground beef sandwich at the Erie County Fair in Hamburg, New York.[12] During the fair, they ran out of pork sausage for their sandwiches and substituted beef.[13] Kunzog, who spoke to Frank Menches, says they exhausted their supply of sausage, so purchased chopped up beef from a butcher, Andrew Klein. Though historian Joseph Streamer wrote that the meat was from Stein's market not Klein's; despite Stein having sold the market in 1874.[13] The story notes that the origin of the hamburger comes from Hamburg, New York not Hamburg Germany.[13] Yet Frank Menches's obituary in The New York Times states that these events took place at the 1892 Summit County Fair in Akron, Ohio.[21] Fletcher Davis[edit source | editbeta] Fletcher Davis of Athens, Texas claimed to have invented the hamburger. According to oral histories, in the 1880s, he opened a lunch counter in Athens and served a 'burger' of fried ground beef patties with mustard and Bermuda onion between two slices of bread; with a pickle on the side.[6] The claim is that in 1904, Davis and his wife Ciddy ran a sandwich stand at the St. Louis World's Fair.[6] Historian Frank X. Tolbert, noted that Athen's resident Clint Murchison said his grandfather dated the hamburger to the 1880s with 'Old Dave' a.k.a. Fletcher Davis.[13] A photo of "Old Dave's Hamburger Stand" from the 1904 connection was sent to Tolbert as evidence of the claim.[13] Also the New York Tribune namelessly attributed the innovation of the hamburger to the stand on the pike.[6] Other hamburger-steak claims[edit source | editbeta] Various non-specific claims of the hamburgers invention relates to the term hamburger steak, but no mention of it being a sandwich. The first printed American menu which listed hamburger was claimed to be an 1826 menu from Delmonico's in New York.[22] However,the printer of the original menu was not in business in 1834.[19] In 1889, a menu from Walla Wall Union in Washington offered hamburger steak as a menu item.[6] Between 1871–1884, “Hamburg Beefsteak” was on the “Breakfast and Supper Menu” of the Clipper Restaurant at 311/313 Pacific Street in San Fernando. It cost 10 cents—the same price as mutton chops, pig’s feet in batter, and stewed veal. It was not, however, on the dinner menu, only “Pig’s Head” “Calf Tongue” and “Stewed Kidneys” were listed.[23] Another claim ties the hamburger to Summit County, New York or Ohio. Summit County, Ohio exists, but Summit County, New York does not.[13]
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:12 |
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tl;dr: a bunch of different americans independently claim they invented the hamburger in the late 19th century
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:12 |
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"Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted." hold the gently caress on who isnt toasting their buns cmon guys
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:13 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:"Though some critics like Josh Ozersky, a food editor for New York Magazine, claim that this sandwich was not a hamburger because the bread was toasted." oh yeah, a toasted bun is like, mandatory. wtf.
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:14 |
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penus de milo posted:americans discover microbrews, naturally assume they're the best at doing that along with everything else ever its a safe assumption
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:14 |
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chumpchous posted:seriously beer is the only american institution i'm actually proud of i was going to make some comment about porn but now im not so certain
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:16 |
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chumpchous posted:i watched some anthony bourdain thing where a really high level french chef was making a hamburger. he put american cheese on it and was like 'yeah, gently caress the haters american cheese goes on hamburgers'
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:17 |
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Cold on a Cob posted:tl;dr: a bunch of different americans independently claim they invented the hamburger in the late 19th century it may or may not be an American invention, but America definitely perfected it.
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:17 |
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lol yeah european porn is still trapped in the 70s so it's a similar comparison
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:17 |
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chumpchous posted:lol yeah european porn is still trapped in the 70s so it's a similar comparison see idk the top notch camwhores are all european somethingorothers
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:18 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:top notch camwhores mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoooooddddsssss
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:19 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:gently caress that guy, pepper jack is what goes on boigs nah jack is also not really cheese but it's more cheese than american so rather than going all out with the processing and making it awesome it's just a lovely in betweener Dead Inside Darwin posted:see idk the top notch camwhores are all european somethingorothers eastern europe doesn't count i guess
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:21 |
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:wheat beers are pretty bad no matter where theyre from this gimmick of having the worst possible opinions is just getting tired.
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:23 |
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Werthog 95 posted:this gimmick of having the worst possible opinions is just getting tired. oh no someone likes a different beer style
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:24 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 04:58 |
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yesterday i had a ballast point sculpin ipa, it was p. good
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# ? Sep 9, 2013 18:27 |