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Strawman posted:What happened in the past is irrelevant, rich people always respond rationally to economic incentives, that's why they're rich. More that half of the 1% inherited their wealth, which I guess was technically was an economically rational thing to do at that point in their lives.
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Only poor people or people who absolutely need space and want to "move to the suburbs" for their family live outside of manhattan. It would be like having a yacht that's too small.
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Sep 8, 2013 14:39
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Cheekio posted:More that half of the 1% inherited their wealth, which I guess was technically was an economically rational thing to do at that point in their lives. It's a sarcastic post. Still, there's been an enormous domestic outmigration from the New York metro area in recent years (of course, there are many reasons for this, the most important of which is probably the cost of living. The idea that a moderate tax increase will cause significant numbers of people leaving is dubious, but I don't really see any evidence other than "people haven't moved out," which isn't actually saying anything.
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Sep 8, 2013 14:45
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Strawman posted:What happened in the past is irrelevant, rich people always respond rationally to economic incentives, that's why they're rich. Oh, absolutely. Lord knows we shouldn't use past events of exactly the same type as a predictor for reactions in the future. That would be stupid. And people are always totally rational. Look, this supposed flight from NYC didn't happen in 2009 (jumped from 6.85% to 8.97%) or in 2004 (6.85% to 7.7%), and there's zero reason to believe that it will somehow cause an apocalypse this time. fake edit: Unless my sarcasm detector is working improperly, in which case carry on!
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Sep 8, 2013 17:24
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I thought we were all due for an update on one of 2014's least exciting, least important races: the Oregon gubernatorial race. So far, two Republican candidates have declared: Dennis Richardson, a state representative from southern Oregon, and Jon Justesen, a rancher and businessman with no political experience, from Eastern Oregon. I don't know how Republican Jon Justesen is, since he appears to be pro-choice and wants a state sales tax to fund universal health care. http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2013/09/jon_justesen_pumps_another_250.html This might mean that the Gubernatorial race might actually have some interest in it, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Sep 10, 2013 00:42
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"September 11 is something, in my view, you don't talk about politically. It's almost sacred." ~ Rudy Giuliani, 2013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbBSsHexjwA
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Sep 11, 2013 00:08
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Joementum posted:"September 11 is something, in my view, you don't talk about politically. It's almost sacred." ~ Rudy Giuliani, 2013 HAHAHAhahaha eat poo poo, Rudy. Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DteDRD6cbbM&t=31s
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Sep 11, 2013 00:24
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The NYC primaries are, of course, tonight. Only two major points of interest are whether BdB clears 40 to avoid a runoff (recent polling suggests perhaps not, with the likely runoff against Thompson), and Spitzer against Stringer in the comptroller race, which looks super-tight.
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Sep 11, 2013 00:39
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jeffersonlives posted:The NYC primaries are, of course, tonight. Only two major points of interest are whether BdB clears 40 to avoid a runoff (recent polling suggests perhaps not, with the likely runoff against Thompson), and Spitzer against Stringer in the comptroller race, which looks super-tight.
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Sep 11, 2013 00:50
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ufarn posted:Sam Wang has BdB at 90% to avoid a run-off and Weiner at 80% to win. Mark Blumenthal made this point and Wang acknowledged it, which is that the quality of the polling he's using to model is pretty suspect.
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Sep 11, 2013 00:54
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jeffersonlives posted:Mark Blumenthal made this point and Wang acknowledged it, which is that the quality of the polling he's using to model is pretty suspect. Time will tell, and it's interesting that Nate Silver hasn't given the election much attention. Local primary data will probably always suck.
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Sep 11, 2013 01:02
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Tonight also features the recall vote for Colorado Senate President John Morse of Colorado Springs and Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo on charges of insufficiently respecting the rights of well organized militias. Live results will be posted here: http://live.denverpost.com/Event/Colorado_Recall_Election_2013. Polls close at 9pm ET / 7pm MT.
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Sep 11, 2013 01:41
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Joementum posted:Tonight also features the recall vote for Colorado Senate President John Morse of Colorado Springs and Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo on charges of insufficiently respecting the rights of well organized militias. Has there been any polling on this?
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Sep 11, 2013 01:47
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HMS Beagle posted:Has there been any polling on this? No, but the party affiliation of early voters indicates that it may be a split decision, with Colorado Springs passing the recall and Pueblo rejecting it. Recall elections are very difficult to predict though, see Governor Scott Walker, for example. eta: via the Denver Post site, here's Republican Bernie Herpin, preparing his victory speech in anticipation of a Morse recall that would see him elected to the State Senate as a replacement. 
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Sep 11, 2013 01:50
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BdB is over 40% in the exit polls and leads every demographic except moderates and black men (who favor Thompson) and "all other races" (non-white, non-black, non-hispanic) (who favor Liu). Meanwhile, early returns show the Morse recall as a nailbiter with him only down a few hundred votes and ~5,000 left to count.
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Sep 11, 2013 02:52
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, early returns show the Morse recall as a nailbiter with him only down a few hundred votes and ~5,000 left to count. 45% reporting and Morse is down 52 - 47, Girion's results are starting to come in too.
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Sep 11, 2013 02:57
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Joementum posted:BdB is over 40% in the exit polls and leads every demographic except moderates and black men (who favor Thompson) and "all other races" (non-white, non-black, non-hispanic) (who favor Liu). Spitzer is also down by about 6 in this batch of exits. Scott Stringer as city comptroller is just so...boring.
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Sep 11, 2013 02:59
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It's still early, but Weiner is currently 5th, behind de Blasio, Thompson, Quinn, and "the other one" John Liu.
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Sep 11, 2013 03:02
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Joementum posted:Tonight also features the recall vote for Colorado Senate President John Morse of Colorado Springs and Sen. Angela Giron of Pueblo on charges of insufficiently respecting the rights of well organized militias. Wait what? Can you explain this to me.
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Sep 11, 2013 03:04
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Mooseontheloose posted:Wait what? Can you explain this to me. Morse and Giron were targeted by CO gun nuts bankrolled by the NRA in protest of their votes and stewardship of the gun control laws that were passed earlier this year - namely, universal background checks and I believe a magazine size restriction.
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Sep 11, 2013 03:06
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Sydney Leathers tried to crash the Weiner victory party. Had she gotten in, she'd have been able to hob-nob with some of the best political analysts in New York.quote:Upstairs, about 150 people filled a narrow room as Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” played, and Mr. Weiner’s supporters remained optimistic that their candidate would come through in the end. Right now there's a big district in the middle of Manhattan with no votes counted. Could be a big pocket of Weiner supporters. Joementum fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 03:43
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Joementum posted:Sydney Leathers tried to crash the Weiner victory party. Had she gotten in, she'd have been able to hob-nob with some of the best political analysts in New York. I have it from reliable sources that that precinct is a big fan of Weiner. Huge fan.
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Sep 11, 2013 03:58
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BdB is currently at 39.6% (!!!) with 82% of precincts reporting. If it goes to a run-off, it'll be him against Thompson. Something I thought was interesting is that according to http://project.wnyc.org/election2013/ he's winning all ethnicities except Asian (who are going for Liu). That is, if you go by majority districts.
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Sep 11, 2013 04:07
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Weiner gave the finger to a local reporter A fitting end fake e: And Spitzer conceded
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Sep 11, 2013 04:18
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God damnit Weiner look what you did.
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Sep 11, 2013 04:20
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De Blasio just hit 40%!!! 
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Sep 11, 2013 04:23
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It's been slowly ticking up. Hopefully he can hold it and we won't have to deal with a runoff. Really, people, instant runoff voting. It's not that hard.
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Sep 11, 2013 04:26
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Teddybear posted:It's been slowly ticking up. Hopefully he can hold it and we won't have to deal with a runoff. This is AMERICA, son. We do things our own way!*  * "Our own way" being the shittiest possible way
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Sep 11, 2013 04:29
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Meanwhile, Morse becomes the first state legislator to be recalled in Colorado history. Here's the scene at his opponent's headquarters during a break to watch Dancing with the Stars.
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Sep 11, 2013 04:30
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, Morse becomes the first state legislator to be recalled in Colorado history. Here's the scene at his opponent's headquarters during a break to watch Dancing with the Stars. So will there be a new election for his seat?
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Sep 11, 2013 04:33
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Goodnight, Carlos. radical meme posted:So will there be a new election for his seat? Bernie Herpin (pictured earlier on this page) won the race to replace him today.
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Sep 11, 2013 04:34
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So to be clear the Colorado recall was entirely gun control based right?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So to be clear the Colorado recall was entirely gun control based right? Gun control along with the defense of freedom.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So to be clear the Colorado recall was entirely gun control based right? In the end I think it was more about listening to the constituents instead of being "Brave" and telling the press outright that you weren't going to listen to them.
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Sep 11, 2013 05:07
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So the answer is yes then, well that's a great message to send, I can't see any downsides to that. I mean, it's not like anything happened in CO around that time to make someone maybe think 'hm, we should do something about the guns'.
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Sep 11, 2013 05:08
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DAVE!!!(c)(tm) posted:In the end I think it was more about listening to the constituents instead of being "Brave" and telling the press outright that you weren't going to listen to them. Yeah, as they say, all politics is local. Bloomberg can be the puppet master and give you money, but he can't actually vote for you, your constituents do.
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Sep 11, 2013 05:09
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Yea I agree it was because the Jew funded it, there was nothing else that could have made a CO lawmaker think there's a gun problem, it was the Jew.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea I agree it was because the Jew funded it, there was nothing else that could have made a CO lawmaker think there's a gun problem, it was the Jew. Wow, what the hell is with the anti Semitism. As a Jewish American I don't like your implication.
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Sep 11, 2013 05:12
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As a Jew as well I don't like tossing around that it must be Bloomberg being 'the puppetmaster' and not, ya know, the fact that a theater got shot up by a crazy dude who was able to get a gun easily.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:As a Jew as well I don't like tossing around that it must be Bloomberg being 'the puppetmaster' and not, ya know, the fact that a theater got shot up by a crazy dude who was able to get a gun easily. Why? H is a puppetmaster. Pulling at the strings and tossing his money around like a corrupting influence.
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