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The Sex Cannon posted:I don't know if this is the right spot, but does anyone have a Steel Legion lieutenant who's pointing (pictured below) that I can buy? I will pay actual dollars for it. That model is amazing, all the more so because Steel Legion are smaller than the plastic Cadians and thus in better scale to the other models, but his hand isn't pointing. His hand is open, maybe in a chopping motion or a swordplay flourish.
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Post 9-11 User posted:That model is amazing, all the more so because Steel Legion are smaller than the plastic Cadians and thus in better scale to the other models, but his hand isn't pointing. His hand is open, maybe in a chopping motion or a swordplay flourish. He's begging/futile pushing motion for a ork meganob to not crush him.
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Sep 11, 2013 16:12
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Just picked up a copy of the Black legion supplement, loving the fluff and just getting to grips with the new rules myself. Just wondering though on what the consensus was about it, any interesting builds/lists result?
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Sep 11, 2013 16:22
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Just picked up a copy of the Black legion supplement, loving the fluff and just getting to grips with the new rules myself. Four heldrakes. That's about it. 
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Sep 11, 2013 16:23
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LingcodKilla posted:He's begging/futile pushing motion for a ork meganob to not crush him. In true Imperial fashion he's challenging said meganob and plans to show him just how superior humans are 
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Sep 11, 2013 16:31
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The only thing that upsets me about the wave of mechas is that they shafted walkers so hard that they all need to be Monstrous Creatures to be worth a drat.
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Sep 11, 2013 16:38
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Just picked up a copy of the Black legion supplement, loving the fluff and just getting to grips with the new rules myself. It's kinda useless as a supplement unless you want Chosen Troops for some godforsaken reason. Yeah, that's what the army needs, more expensive MEQs with even more expensive upgrades. Four Heldrakes is the comedy answer but in seriousness that's a bad list. Like someone mentioned earlier, two is about the most you'd want to field. Mandatory VotLW is a small annoyance as well. Phyresis fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Sep 11, 2013 |
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Sep 11, 2013 16:43
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Safety Factor posted:In true Imperial fashion he's challenging said meganob and plans to show him just how superior humans are What's the last thing going through his mind during that fight? Gorebag Fungusrumps Power Claw.
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Sep 11, 2013 16:51
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Just picked up a copy of the Black legion supplement, loving the fluff and just getting to grips with the new rules myself. Allying BL with CSM opens some interesting possibilities, but none are that great. For instance: it lets you have a Nurgle lord for scoring plagues, Kharn for scoring zerkers, and a cheap unmarked sorcerer in the ally slot without sacrificing scoring elites. It's also a way to get one more unit of the best FOC slots (Oblits, Havoc, bikes and Spawn, usually).
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Sep 11, 2013 16:52
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Phyresis posted:It's kinda useless as a supplement unless you want Chosen Troops. Chosen are a odd one tbh, is there anyway to make them useful?
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Sep 11, 2013 16:57
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Chosen are a odd one tbh, is there anyway to make them useful? Ghetto scoring dev squads.
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Sep 11, 2013 16:59
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I just don't see the point of running them instead of cult troops or regular CSM, they're one of those units that are always going to be kind of crappy by virtue of their design unless the writers get really creative with special rules.
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Sep 11, 2013 17:00
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Naramyth posted:Ghetto scoring dev squads. Ghetto as in a "Die motherfucker, die motherfucker die" way or a "getho gospel" way?
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Sep 11, 2013 17:03
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Fearless posted:Double fisting rules. Hello Ultramar! Are you ready to ROCK?! (I like the Tomb Kings scutum)
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Sep 11, 2013 17:08
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Foul Ole Ron posted:Ghetto as in a "Die motherfucker, die motherfucker die" way or a "getho gospel" way? getho gospel. Devs do it better, there are better and cheaper backfield scoring options, but hey sometimes you have to tape those two things together and get a thing.
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Sep 11, 2013 17:23
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Naramyth posted:getho gospel. Devs do it better, there are better and cheaper backfield scoring options, but hey sometimes you have to tape those two things together and get a thing. What about 5 chosen with a autocannon?
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Sep 11, 2013 17:24
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Foul Ole Ron posted:What about 5 chosen with a autocannon? Enjoy your scoring 100 point 5 wound autocannon. e: 110 if you take it from Black Legion.
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Sep 11, 2013 17:43
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Bavius posted:The only thing that upsets me about the wave of mechas is that they shafted walkers so hard that they all need to be Monstrous Creatures to be worth a drat. Since everyone is getting a Monstrous Creature these days... Tyranids confirmed to receive a new Walker unit!
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Sep 11, 2013 17:47
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Chosen cost 5 points per model more than a chaos space marine. Base 2 attacks +1 for bp/ccw and flexible wargear options are nice, but definitely not worth 5 points per model on a non-scoring unit in a book without access to a decent assault transport (not considering FW). Throw in an extra 2 points per model for +1 ld, scoring, and hatred (SM) in the black legion supplement and it's starting to get a little silly. They pay full price for weapon upgrades, so it's hard to construct them as a decent killy unit. A basic chosen with a power weapon is 33 points, that's 2 points more than a terminator for a worse save, an extra attack, and the ability to sweep. It still doesn't solve the dilemma of getting your expensive MEQ into assault either. At least termies can deep strike and possibly pop something important with combi-meltas. Look at honor guard in the new SM codex. They come in at 25 points a pop, 7 less than a chosen geared out the same way along with chapter tactics, ATSKNF, and a 2+ save (of course you gotta buy a chapter master too). What about shooty chosen? Sure you could load them up with plasma guns, jump out and fry something, but that's still a ton of points, and if you want to use more than 2 you gotta jump your very expensive MEQ out of their metal box. Even in a shooty configuration, they lack a good way to get them into position without access to drop pods. They're just a bad unit. They really need to drop in price or get some more special rules to justify their cost.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:06
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Just run them shooty with Huron or Ahriman e: inside a Rhino to game an extra 6" of movement on the first turn to get into double-tap plasma range easier
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Sep 11, 2013 18:11
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Mango Polo posted:Since everyone is getting a Monstrous Creature these days... Tyranids confirmed to receive a new Walker unit! Carnifex and tyrgon not big enough? Sheeh!
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Sep 11, 2013 18:11
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Phyresis posted:The only thing that matters is what the gently caress the stats are for "pulse submunition cannons," and I'm going to wager "not good," since it has the word "pulse" in it and not "ion." We'll see, I guess. Could be pleasantly surprised. If it’s anything like O’Rai’Lai’s four firing-mode submunition gun it’ll be amazing. Either way, it’ll have some sort of dual firing mode so it’ll be good against a lot of things.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:12
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The Sex Cannon posted:I don't know if this is the right spot, but does anyone have a Steel Legion lieutenant who's pointing (pictured below) that I can buy? I will pay actual dollars for it. Hamshot posted:There are some people that say Spess Mehreens. I actually had the idea for a new Dawn of Awesome - Soulstorm was actually made here in Boston at the now defunct Iron Lore Studios. I figured they must have hired a local cheapo voice actor for Boreale's dialogue, so maybe I could hire him to read some stupid stuff in that voice for a new cartoon. Makes sense, right? Well, it turns out, Boreale is voiced by Scott Mcneil, who in addition to voicing most of the characters in all the Dawn of War games, is basically in everything ever.I guess he just ran out of voices so had to make one up on the spot.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:20
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Safety Factor posted:In true Imperial fashion he's challenging said meganob and plans to show him just how superior humans are One of the things I love about WH40K is that most of the times humans are the most vanilla or boring race in any setting and they solved it by making it so over the top with the Inquisiton, the Space Marines, the millions of IG troops dying all the time, the God Emperor, etc.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:23
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Grabbing my IA3 2nd Edition, there's only one "Pulse Submunition" gun. R'Alai uses it and its stats are 24" range, S5 AP6 Assault 1 Large Blast Ignores Cover. He gets special rounds too, a S4 AP4 Rending large blast, a S9 AP3 single shot and the ability to shoot haywire grenades. A large middling S/AP blast which ignores cover doesn't really seem big enough for a Riptide, but increase it any more and you're treading on the toes of the Ion Accelerator.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:27
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So I haven't followed 40k at all the last couple of months. My gaming club has an ongoing e-mail-campaign where you move armies and fleets around on a planetary map, and play the actual battles when you meet. It's been going for 9 months with not a single fight for me, and suddenly, bam, 4 fights in a month. This Sunday I'll be thrown head first back into 40k with the largest battle I've played yet this edition - but I guess I've got a good chance, since it's my 2450 pts of Necrons vs. an invading 1850pt Black Templar army. Speaking of Black Templars, I'm guessing he'll bring toys from the new codex which I know nothing about, anything Necrons in particular should look out for?
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Sep 11, 2013 18:39
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If he is playing with the new codex, he'll probably have a good amount of melta and plasma weapons, that's what I'd be concerned about. Also other generic SM new things like Hunters and Centurions.
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Sep 11, 2013 18:44
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Mango Polo posted:That's what was said about titans. Hence the reason why all of their titan-equivalents are planes. Doesn't contradict having a mid-size suit. Expect that to be changed again in 7th, when they introduce a Titan sized Tau unit that is made from 5 Broadside sized suits all joining together, requiring you to not only buy the giant Voltron Tau for $320 - titans being part of 40k games by then - but the 5 smaller suits it's formed from as well for $280 a squad, because it can only transform if you have the squad on the battlefield. 
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I've just caught up on 2 weeks of this thread, and just wanted to chime in on the "which UK store to buy from" theme. I ordered the new SM book yesterday morning from Element Games and it arrived today. 20% discount, a flat £3 shipping until you order £80 and then it's free, pretty good all round.
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Sep 11, 2013 19:02
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How bad/good are Chaos Terminators?
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Sep 11, 2013 19:06
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Cataphract posted:gently caress it, I'm saying Jazzcannon from now on. I need to make a noise marine army. Jazz cannons and vector stroke. Fortunately, there are noise marines. With actual Jazzcannons. I'm honestly surprised GW never used that pun, actually.
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My FLGS is running an Apoc game in a couple of weeks, so that reminded me that I needed to repaint my titan! WIP, haven't yet decided what color the plasma...thingy will be.
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Sep 11, 2013 19:12
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:How bad/good are Chaos Terminators? Pretty cool for suicide melta/plasma disruption. Solo oblits tend to do that a bit cheaper but they are not as dangerous on the drop.
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Direwolf posted:My FLGS is running an Apoc game in a couple of weeks, so that reminded me that I needed to repaint my titan! WIP, haven't yet decided what color the plasma...thingy will be. Green.
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Sep 11, 2013 19:30
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So... No way to give a chapter master in terminator armor a relic blade?
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Sep 11, 2013 19:30
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LingcodKilla posted:So... No way to give a chapter master in terminator armor a relic blade? No. I don't think you can give characters in terminator armor relic blades. I don't think you could before, either, iirc.
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Sep 11, 2013 19:41
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SRM posted:Where are you? I might have an extra one lying around. I'm in Fairfax, Virginia. And that's in America.
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Sep 11, 2013 19:47
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WhiteWolf123 posted:No. I don't think you can give characters in terminator armor relic blades. I don't think you could before, either, iirc. Yeah, if you already swapped either the bolt pistol or chainsword for the relic blade, you didn't have it to trade in for the terminator armor.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Yeah, if you already swapped either the bolt pistol or chainsword for the relic blade, you didn't have it to trade in for the terminator armor. Kinda stupid. More Rainbow Warrior stuff! Prism... Records deleted... 748.M41 The blood star campaign The Relictors, Rainbow Warriors and Fire Lords yada yada yada.... I think the Relictors stuffed a chaos tainted relic in a rainbow warrior rhino right before inquisition showed up to investigate them on the battlefield. (Rainbow warriors were my first models I painted because it seemed a natural fit because my buddy played poncy harlequins)
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Chosen; I actually like them shooty or choppy. If you go choppy you're getting 2 base attacks + BP/CC weapon for around the price of berserkers. Toss in a fearless hq and now you're cooking. Bonus for being able to take special weapons and the ability to drop the power fist(s) on guys that don't have to challenge out.
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