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Polaron posted:Oh god, especially if it's that children laughing/playing clip. In the past year that I've lived in close proximity to an elementary school, I've come to realize that enough children playing just sounds exactly like a stock sound clip. The general rabble, the squeaky swing sound, and that one not-quite-words "aaaahoooo, hyeah, eeeeee" shouty noise. JUST LIKE THAT, every recess That I am privy to hear. It is weird as poo poo. It may be a universal constant. Or I live near the most stereotypical elementary school ever.
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Roblo posted:I dont even know how to describe the stock sound I hate, and I can only think of two instances of it at the moment,bit I hear it all the time. Its a kind of "woosh" sound. I know exactly the one you mean, it's a sort of "swtooosh" noise. This has reminded me a) how great Magic Carpet was and b) how much hearing that noise and worse, the Wilhelm Scream piss me off. You're spending $X million on a film, get some loving sound guys that aren't internet nerds for god's sake. Edit: The meteor sound effect from Magic Carpet turns up all over the place as well. Powerful Two-Hander has a new favorite as of 00:09 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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Sep 13, 2013 00:07
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Roblo posted:I dont even know how to describe the stock sound I hate, and I can only think of two instances of it at the moment,bit I hear it all the time. Its a kind of "woosh" sound. It's the sound effect at 0:50 here, right after he says "we'll be fine", right?
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Sep 13, 2013 05:29
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My most hated stock sound of all is not used often in movies, but in TV, especially American reality shows. Whenever something "shocking" or "scandalous" happens they use this stupid annoying sound that I can't really describe with letters that sounds like a metal type grinding sound I guess? Not being able to describe it to people is part of the annoyance but you hear it all the god drat time, I guarantee it.
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Sep 13, 2013 05:55
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CJacobs posted:My most hated stock sound of all is not used often in movies, but in TV, especially American reality shows. Whenever something "shocking" or "scandalous" happens they use this stupid annoying sound that I can't really describe with letters that sounds like a metal type grinding sound I guess? Not being able to describe it to people is part of the annoyance but you hear it all the god drat time, I guarantee it. A record scratch maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uQ2P0xgenw If that's what it is and you couldn't identify it as such then [img:nelson-ha-ha.gif] If not then I dunno, that's the only thing I can think of that fits the description.
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Sep 13, 2013 06:04
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That's definitely not it. I'm sure as soon as I find out what it actually is I'll feel like an idiot, but I'm definitely not that stupid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPMUcEOr6Q&t=79s 1:22. That drat sound. CJacobs has a new favorite as of 06:08 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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Sep 13, 2013 06:05
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Going back to the vomit-chat, what always bugs me is that movie vomit doesn't look the slightest thing like real vomit. Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen that weird white vomit that always shows up in movies and tv shows. Mine, at least, tends to be a sort of brownish pinkish color, but in movies it's always white.
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Sep 13, 2013 06:13
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tacodaemon posted:It's the sound effect at 0:50 here, right after he says "we'll be fine", right? Ah, the sound of the Doom 2 final boss shooting a demon cube out of its brain. GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Going back to the vomit-chat, what always bugs me is that movie vomit doesn't look the slightest thing like real vomit. Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen that weird white vomit that always shows up in movies and tv shows. Mine, at least, tends to be a sort of brownish pinkish color, but in movies it's always white. Pinkish? Stomach bile is yellow, any other colours are usually from things you've eaten.
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Sep 13, 2013 06:31
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Mine, at least, tends to be a sort of brownish pinkish color, but in movies it's always white. Do uhh, do you happen to get heartburn and stomach pains a lot there buddy?
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Sep 13, 2013 06:46
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Ape Has Killed Ape posted:Do uhh, do you happen to get heartburn and stomach pains a lot there buddy? Nope. Edit: To clarify, this is the kind of color I meant (linked because vomit) http://i.imgur.com/acZGwhR.jpg. GIANT OUIJA BOARD has a new favorite as of 07:09 on Sep 13, 2013 |
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GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:Nope. Vomiting on purpose and taking a picture of it for the thread? Now that's some dedicated clarification.
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Sep 13, 2013 08:35
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CJacobs posted:That's definitely not it. I'm sure as soon as I find out what it actually is I'll feel like an idiot, but I'm definitely not that stupid. I'd say it sounds like an air-brake, like the sort buses and semi-trucks use.
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Sep 13, 2013 13:06
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CJacobs posted:That's definitely not it. I'm sure as soon as I find out what it actually is I'll feel like an idiot, but I'm definitely not that stupid. It's a bowed gong. Take a gong or a tam tam, play the edge with a cello bow or something.
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Sep 13, 2013 13:21
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Mine is the cumulative crowd gasp. The one that ends on a high note. You know the one. And now it's in your head.
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Sep 13, 2013 16:15
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tacodaemon posted:It's the sound effect at 0:50 here, right after he says "we'll be fine", right? Yes! That's the one, does my head in. It's been around for years, and it blows my mind that a sound effect in a PC game from 1994 is actually used in major films. Love to find out what it's actually called.
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Sep 13, 2013 17:12
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I guess I don't understand most stock sound effects. It's like, hey, we need some screaming here. We can use the same goddamn loving scream as every other film ever has used with all the bad stuff associated with it as per this thread, or we can get the actor/an intern/the sound guy to scream in a soundbooth while we huck a mic past them.
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Sep 13, 2013 18:19
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What annoys me in movies, is when there's a chase during the gun fight scene and the person doing the chasing seems to maintain the distance between the 2, despite going slower and stopping at every room entrance. The opposite of this happened in Trading Places, when Eddie Murphy sprints across lobby after a drunk and stumbling Dan Akroyd, but when Murhpy reaches the entrance, somehow Akroyd is across the street and on a bus.
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Sep 13, 2013 18:31
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Splicer posted:I guess I don't understand most stock sound effects. It's like, hey, we need some screaming here. We can use the same goddamn loving scream as every other film ever has used with all the bad stuff associated with it as per this thread, or we can get the actor/an intern/the sound guy to scream in a soundbooth while we huck a mic past them.
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Sep 13, 2013 19:29
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Strudel Man posted:It's harder than you think to get something that sounds halfway decent.
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Sep 13, 2013 21:27
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Strudel Man posted:It's harder than you think to get something that sounds halfway decent. Yeah, and there's a limit to what you can do with a nine digit budget.
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Sep 13, 2013 22:25
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Here's how the stock sounds vs custom sounds conversation goes down. Sound guy : yeah we need a scream for that scene, so I need to allocate the booth and all this equipment. Director : Bullshit we have stock Screams, use one of them. Sound guy : but if we record a custom scream it will sound better. Director : and if we use stock sounds I get to sleep on a pile of cash money. Sound guy : but if we use the stock sounds again people on the internet will make fun of us. Director : hahahahahahaha *dries tears of laughter with 100 dollar bill* Sound guy : *sigh*
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Sep 13, 2013 22:43
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I cannot abide the giggling baby stock sound. It makes me want to punch a baby each time I hear it.
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Sep 13, 2013 23:28
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Lap-Lem posted:Here's how the stock sounds vs custom sounds conversation goes down. Actually it sounds like it goes: Director: We need a scream Sound guy: Cool I'm going to use the Wilhelm because it's a bit of a sound guy tradition. Director: Do what you gotta do Dave.
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Sep 14, 2013 16:16
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Replace "director" with "producer" or "studio" and yeah, that's about right.
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I imagine it also helps in the editing process to have a variety of screams, explosions, gunshots, etc. if one that you recorded doesn't work in a cut.
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I just rewatched The Matrix after years since watching it and it is still a drat good movie and the effects mostly hold up well, but now that I'm not 15 anymore some stuff about the plot and setting kind of bugs me, like how if everyone knows that nothing in the Matrix is real, then why do they still give a poo poo about getting shot, or how you make yourself bleed when hit in the Matrix, and little stuff like that. If you accept that you're not constrained by anything then it seems to follow then none of that would happen. I know that the "humans are batteries" thing is because they thought audiences were too dumb to accept "humans are CPUs", and it makes for a iconic moment, but watching it again I couldn't help but think the whole time that nobody, especially Morpheus who totally buys into the "nothing here is real or actually happening" mindset, should really be playing by the rules of reality that much. It's not like they don't accept that what happens in the Matrix is real (though it arguably is). Also who let Cypher into the Matrix to chat with Smith? The biggest thing rewatching made me realize though was just how lovely the other two movies were. Neo can now do anything and all he can think to do is fly and punch even harder than before. 
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Just finished Olympus Has Fallen (no, I don't know why) and it's really stupid that so much would be risked just to protect the US President. In the context of the film, just letting him die is the better option for almost every single conceivable reason. He wouldn't be that important of a bargaining chip at all, and the only reason he is one in the film is because he (big shock) has nuclear launch codes, which again makes more sense to just let him get killed. I know I shouldn't be irritated by anything from a movie like this, but still, c'mon.
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RBA Starblade posted:I just rewatched The Matrix after years since watching it and it is still a drat good movie and the effects mostly hold up well, but now that I'm not 15 anymore some stuff about the plot and setting kind of bugs me, like how if everyone knows that nothing in the Matrix is real, then why do they still give a poo poo about getting shot, or how you make yourself bleed when hit in the Matrix, and little stuff like that. If you accept that you're not constrained by anything then it seems to follow then none of that would happen. I know that the "humans are batteries" thing is because they thought audiences were too dumb to accept "humans are CPUs", and it makes for a iconic moment, but watching it again I couldn't help but think the whole time that nobody, especially Morpheus who totally buys into the "nothing here is real or actually happening" mindset, should really be playing by the rules of reality that much. It's not like they don't accept that what happens in the Matrix is real (though it arguably is). Also who let Cypher into the Matrix to chat with Smith? Something that bugs me about the movie is the mirror scene. The whole thing doesn't make any sense and is never explained. Also, call me crazy but I think a much better answer to "who is The One" would have been Morpheus instead of Neo.
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muscles like this? posted:Something that bugs me about the movie is the mirror scene. The whole thing doesn't make any sense and is never explained. Also, call me crazy but I think a much better answer to "who is The One" would have been Morpheus instead of Neo. I thought it was a side effect of something like the bug and red pill where something is loving directly with the Matrix, in that case, them tracing Neo's location. You can see the bug get all goopy before it turns into a little squid thing too. Also come to think of it who even let the first guy out of the Matrix and how'd he get anywhere? I guess the other movies answer that question with "the robots did because of whatever Colonel Sanders said", but within the context of the first movie there's no answer. Was The Matrix even planned to be a trilogy? RBA Starblade has a new favorite as of 02:57 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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RBA Starblade posted:I thought it was a side effect of something like the bug and red pill where something is loving directly with the Matrix, in that case, them tracing Neo's location. You can see the bug get all goopy before it turns into a little squid thing too. I believe the directors were sued for ripping off a woman's sci fi script and had to pay out since the resemblances were too great. If that's true then the first film was actually stolen and the other 2 were the ones they created. Which would explain a lot.
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Horrible Smutbeast posted:I believe the directors were sued for ripping off a woman's sci fi script and had to pay out since the resemblances were too great. If that's true then the first film was actually stolen and the other 2 were the ones they created. 5 seconds on Google.
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RBA Starblade posted:Also come to think of it who even let the first guy out of the Matrix and how'd he get anywhere? I guess the other movies answer that question with "the robots did because of whatever Colonel Sanders said", but within the context of the first movie there's no answer. Was The Matrix even planned to be a trilogy? If you hold The Animatrix as canon, it is possible to free yourself from the Matrix without outside interference. The annoying kid who follows Neo around like a puppy is one such person; it's why Neo says "I didn't save you, kid."
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RBA Starblade posted:Was The Matrix even planned to be a trilogy? Clearly not. It's one of those "trilogies" where part 1 is its own story and parts 2 and 3 are another story that kind of shoehorns the first movie back into it. Star Wars is kinda like that too, but obviously did it better. As for getting shot in the Matrix, I think it's because the Matrix directly interfaces with your brain, so the system tells your subconscious that it's all real even if you consciously know it's not. Pain is a creation of your own brain, so pain still hurts. Thus, when you die in the Matrix, the system just kills you somehow, possibly like how Cypher kills that albino androgyne in the first film; you just turn into a vegetable or something.
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RyokoTK posted:Clearly not. It's one of those "trilogies" where part 1 is its own story and parts 2 and 3 are another story that kind of shoehorns the first movie back into it. Star Wars is kinda like that too, but obviously did it better.
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Sep 15, 2013 04:42
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It doesn't help that all of the Pirates movies past the first are pure dreck. Just loving terrible. I unreservedly enjoy the first movie but the others are really poor.
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Sep 15, 2013 04:50
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I think they could have made a really good Pirates sequel. Emphasis on "a," though. For my money this whole practice of "lets make two sequels simultaneously and poo poo them out back to back" does not work at all.
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Sep 15, 2013 04:52
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No, not Sophia the other two guys. After checking google it was Grant Morrison who said they contacted him before the first movie and ripped off his comic book. He said he didn't really care though because he works 13 hour days making comics and he doesn't have enough energy to (but having even a million so he wouldn't work would be nice). Then there's some nobody claiming he submitted a few scripts to Warner brothers in the 90's under the name Thomas Althouse this summer...but he actually has the script copyrighted or whatever and registered with the writing guild. Blegh. So many people wanting in on that lovely gravy train series of movies.
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RyokoTK posted:As for getting shot in the Matrix, I think it's because the Matrix directly interfaces with your brain, so the system tells your subconscious that it's all real even if you consciously know it's not. Pain is a creation of your own brain, so pain still hurts. Thus, when you die in the Matrix, the system just kills you somehow, possibly like how Cypher kills that albino androgyne in the first film; you just turn into a vegetable or something. In Brainstorm, there was a scene where Christopher Walken's character plays a brain tape of someone who died while recording it. He has to disable the cardiovascular and respiratory signals so that he doesn't die himself. Apparently this never occurred to anyone in The Matrix.
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Or it just doesn't work that way? I get the impression that the humans have very little understanding of how the Matrix actually works and most of their technology was stolen and refitted from the machines. They put the needle in the hole that jacks into their brain stem because they don't know of any other way to do it.
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I always got the impression that Neo becoming "the One" at the end of the first film, as well as the psychic kids at The Oracle's place were supposed to represent transcending the machines' control over the brain and its psychosomatic reactions to matrix input. Like, it takes a lot of willpower and mental acumen to resist things like getting hurt in "real" life when you get hurt in the Matrix, which is where things like psychic ability and transcendental meditation come into the system. The movie (and its lesser sequels) does a really good job of not explaining things well that it thinks it does.
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