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Shyfted One posted:Not big on romance novels. Well, maybe I am, I never read one. Very easy, yes. My favorite trick is to email the mobi files to my kindle and download them over WiFi
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You guys should really look into Calibre. It does it all and makes it perfectly organized.
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So, an informal poll: You guys who convert PDFs, do you do it because PDFs are unreadable on your device or you just prefer to have the flexibility of text size change, etc.? I just ask because on my Paperwhite I literally prefer reading PDFs to actual e-book formatted books. Obviously this is personal preference, and I have encountered several books with extra small text that ARE actually a pain in the rear end to read, but that's by far the exception to the rule I've noticed. It's almost hard for me to fathom that someone would prefer the e-book format over PDF with most stuff, but again that's just personal preference. And I totally understand that some readers don't have the resolution to do PDFs well.
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Sep 15, 2013 20:51
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Amazon also has a program (Send To Kindle I think it's called) that makes it really easy to send files to Kindles without bothering with USB transfer.
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Sep 15, 2013 20:53
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Martytoof posted:I just ask because on my Paperwhite I literally prefer reading PDFs to actual e-book formatted books. If you had a choice between a perfectly formatted ebook and a PDF, you'd choose the PDF? Or you just prefer to leave PDFs as is? Srice posted:Amazon also has a program (Send To Kindle I think it's called) that makes it really easy to send files to Kindles without bothering with USB transfer. It's basically the same as sending an email to your kindle, just makes it easier by being able to right click it.
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Sperg Victorious posted:If you had a choice between a perfectly formatted ebook and a PDF, you'd choose the PDF? Or you just prefer to leave PDFs as is? No lie, I would probably prefer the PDF. I'm a sucker for consistent formatting, and I've just yet to read an eBook that doesn't mess up technical graphics by splitting them across pages or something. edit: Oh wait I should have prefaced this by saying I'm talking about technical books. For regular novels and things I am perfectly fine with mobi. If it's just text or text and the occasional illustration then that's fine. Sorry I didn't mention that. It probably changes the discussion completely.
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Sep 15, 2013 21:04
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Martytoof posted:Sorry I didn't mention that. It probably changes the discussion completely. I went from thinking "WTF, is this guy insane?" to "Yeah, I feel the same way" - so yup, changes the discussion! 
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Sep 15, 2013 21:12
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I guess I'm just surprised that people get non-technical books in PDF form to begin with. I'm not even sure where to do that. But admittedly I haven't really looked around. I'm tied to Amazon like nobody's business. Plus my local library lends epubs which I can convert readily
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Sep 15, 2013 21:17
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Martytoof posted:I guess I'm just surprised that people get non-technical books in PDF form to begin with. I'm not even sure where to do that. But admittedly I haven't really looked around. I'm tied to Amazon like nobody's business. How does library lending work if you're also converting it? Wouldn't you just then have that book forever? I don't see how DRM actually works at all on these things if there even is any. Shyfted One fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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Sep 15, 2013 21:21
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Pretty much. I guess you're on the honour system to delete the book. I'm more of a technical book reader anyway so my main sources are Safari and Apress
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Sep 15, 2013 21:29
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The problem is probably more that publishers don't care enough to set up their epub formatting to correctly handle technical stuff.
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Sep 15, 2013 21:50
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Martytoof posted:I guess I'm just surprised that people get non-technical books in PDF form to begin with. 
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Sep 15, 2013 21:51
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So there's pretty much nothing stopping people from buying an ebook and then sending the .mobi to everyone they know?
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Martytoof posted:So, an informal poll: Here is a comparison of a PDF on a touch and an actual book on the same topic  Compare the text size:  With a text size that is half the size of a printed book, the pdf is literally unreadable.
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Shyfted One posted:So there's pretty much nothing stopping people from buying an ebook and then sending the .mobi to everyone they know? You'd have to break the DRM. Calibre can't even import a DRM book unless you have extra tools.
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dokmo posted:Here is a comparison of a PDF on a touch and an actual book on the same topic Which reader is that, out of curiosity. That doesn't look too dissimilar from some PDFs I'm reading right now, but I might have a different interpretation of unreadable. I'm the guy who ran his 15" monitor at 1600x1200 back in the day 
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Sep 15, 2013 22:23
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withak posted:The problem is probably more that publishers don't care enough to set up their epub formatting to correctly handle technical stuff. I think the problem is that the current formatting for mobile books is very limited. Like a terrible subset of HTML or something. I keep hoping that the next big thing in eBooks won't be the hardware, but it'll be something like a next gen formatting engine. eBooks are fine for novels and things right now, but for anything that isn't pages and pages of straight text it's basically shoehorning things into a limited formatting engine. see, for example: House of Leaves  Good luck getting that effect on a reader. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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Sep 15, 2013 22:27
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Martytoof posted:Which reader is that, out of curiosity. Kindle touch. You might be right about the text size being readable to some people, my eyes are old. The ability to get rid of the pdf margins automatically would make these documents much easier to read.
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Sep 15, 2013 22:32
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dokmo posted:Kindle touch. You might be right about the text size being readable to some people, my eyes are old. The ability to get rid of the pdf margins automatically would make these documents much easier to read. (I think) this is what I use to crop out extra whitespace from PDFs: http://sourceforge.net/projects/briss/ It superimposes all the pages together so you can be sure you won't crop out anything important across the whole set. I say I think because I actually reinstalled my Mac since I got my Paperwhite and somehow managed to forget this tool. edit: Also, which contrast setting do you use on your KT? I have all my PDFs set to max contrast and that helps a LOT. I wish they'd let you set the default contrast for PDFs because I'd set it to max every single time. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Sep 15, 2013 |
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Sep 15, 2013 22:37
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I think House of Leaves is a special case for page layout.
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withak posted:I think House of Leaves is a special case for page layout. I often pondered how this would look like on an eReader. I dread those thoughts.
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Sep 16, 2013 00:54
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dokmo posted:Here is a comparison of a PDF on a touch and an actual book on the same topic It's not literally unreadable, it's just really awkward and depends on your eyes and the environment you're in. Looking at the text, are you on the default contrast for that pdf? It's usually worth bumping it up a notch or straight to full when the text is small, what you lose in definition you gain in readability. I'm assuming it's better on a backlit reader like a Paperwhite too, I have a Keyboard and it can be pretty awkward sometimes. Also worth mentioning Briss for anyone unfamiliar with it - it basically lets you crop PDF pages to eliminate bad scanning borders and cut down the whitespace, so you can maximise your screen usage. It's not as visually appealing to have text right up to the edges, but the screens ain't that big compared to a typical book page, so do what you can! Briss used to choke on large files, but I guess it's had an update since I last used it, so maybe that doesn't happen anymore
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dokmo posted:Here is a comparison of a PDF on a touch and an actual book on the same topic Tilt the screen sideways. That was the only way I could read pdfs back when I had a small reader. Only downside is you normally have to turn the page three times before you get through a single page.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:I often pondered how this would look like on an eReader. I dread those thoughts. I bet if you read it, you end up reading more pages than there are in the book get it, 'cause the house is bigger inside than it is outside. So what extra tools would one need in order to bring something with DRM into calibre? Say, something that would typically require Adobe Digital Editions? Somewhat related: I emailed a book publisher and was like "Hey, can I get a cheap copy of the ebook? I just bought the physical copy" and they were all "Noooope, sorry, we have nothing to do with it, the sellers of ebooks are totally independent from us". So then I talked to Indigo, asking the same question, and they were like "Nooooope, that's totally up to the publishers and authors, they're the ones that have to make it available in this manner." So one guy says it's up to the other guy, and vice versa. In other words, no one knows what the gently caress. I guess this a problem that won't be solved any time soon!
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Sep 16, 2013 04:13
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Google "caliber drm plugins"
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Martytoof posted:
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_positioning.asp and http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css3_pr_transform.asp  But only positioning is supported by most readers, in ePUB, maybe, maybe KF8 might but that's just speculation on my part
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Guitarchitect posted:I emailed a book publisher and was like "Hey, can I get a cheap copy of the ebook? I just bought the physical copy" and they were all "Noooope, sorry, we have nothing to do with it, the sellers of ebooks are totally independent from us". So then I talked to Indigo, asking the same question, and they were like "Nooooope, that's totally up to the publishers and authors, they're the ones that have to make it available in this manner." So one guy says it's up to the other guy, and vice versa. In other words, no one knows what the gently caress. I guess this a problem that won't be solved any time soon! You mean something like Kindle Matchbook will presumably be? http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1001373341
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Dice Dice Baby posted:http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_positioning.asp Yeah, true. Though it feels like we're stuck in HTML 1.0
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KF8 is essentially EPUB in a Palm Document-esque wrapper (as Mobipocket is to plain HTML with limited CSS).
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Edit: misunderstood, the new paperwhite isn't out yet
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Martytoof posted:Yeah, true. Though it feels like we're stuck in HTML 1.0 It's possible on the Kindle, but only KF8  http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212300
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fordan posted:You mean something like Kindle Matchbook will presumably be? http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1001373341 Yup. I guess this'll be close to the end of shopping at independent stores, for me... or I'll just rely on / the library for digital copies of books that I buy. There's a canadian service called BitLit that is trying to set up a system for ebooks but the publisher list is pretty short right now...
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SB35 posted:Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight has dropped to $99 For UK goons, this deal has arrived, too, with the Simple Touch Glowlight going for £50. Meanwhile, Kobo has done something similar with the Kobo Mini, with both Argos and WH Smith selling them for £30. I'm just in the country now, and very sad that I missed when the Nook Simple Touch without glowlight was going for £30 as well, since it seems to be slightly nicer than the Kobo. But for that price, I got the Kobo. So far I've been fairly happy with it. It does need a cover (but those are about $15 on eBay), and I had to hack the sqlite database to get it to turn on without requiring me to set up a Kobo account (but this is actually remarkably straightforward, and there are guides to it all over the web). Now I just need to figure out the nuances of DRM schema (like am I going to have to break the DRM on legit ebooks I purchase just to have them work on the device).
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Sep 26, 2013 11:53
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Also the Nook Touch (and tablets) are $20 off until the 28th, making the Simple Touch $59 and the Glowlight $79 currently. http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-simple-touch-barnes-noble/1102344735 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-simple-touch-with-glowlight-barnes-noble/1108046469 I think that's US only though, as far as I know.
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Seems you guys have touched on this on this page, but I'd just like to be entirely clear: It's possible to get mobi files from other sources onto a Kindle with no hassle? Trying to decide what to purchase.
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BKPR posted:Seems you guys have touched on this on this page, but I'd just like to be entirely clear: It's possible to get mobi files from other sources onto a Kindle with no hassle? Trying to decide what to purchase. Yes, and you can even email them to Amazon to have them sent directly to your device without needing to plug the USB into your computer.
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Though I prefer the Send To Kindle desktop app.
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Anyone know if there's a definite release date for Amazon's bookmatch service?
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Is there anything similar to Send to Kindle for android phones?
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teraflame posted:Is there anything similar to Send to Kindle for android phones? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.fivefilters.kindleit&feature=search_result Unless you mean the receiving end, in which case just use the Kindle app.
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