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Yeah, the hand into Annie's head is definitely coming from the something that's masquerading as the Seed in the second panel there, it's not Coyote unless we're buying into the Seed is Coyote theory, which personally I'm not. 'Insectile' is what springs to mind when looking at it. Reminds me of how some wasps lay their eggs inside other creatures. I suspect it's trying to smuggle itself into the Court by hiding in Annie's mind at a metaphysical level, which is why we've gone full astral now. Coyote's trying to warn Annie, hence the presence of his eyes and teeth with the word 'liar' repeated around them.
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This is the real Seed Bismuth, Coyote's tricking Annie by making her think it's not.
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Sep 16, 2013 08:25
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It's extremely clear that coyote is appearing and pointing the fraud finger at the seed.
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Sep 16, 2013 08:26
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PrinceRandom posted:Oh dear. The Seed isn't looking as friendly as it was awhile ago. Yep, it's an evil mosquito. EDIT: I realize that's redundant.
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Sep 16, 2013 08:32
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It could also be that this is the Seed, but that it is misrepresenting itself. The two are not mutually exclusive, after all. Although the really interesting bit is that now it wants to be with its "brethren."
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Sep 16, 2013 08:34
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This liar thing knows that Annie is curious about the Seed. That's pretty creepy.
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Sep 16, 2013 08:42
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Maybe it's a friend of Hetty's.
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Sep 16, 2013 08:43
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called it, but it was completely obvious. any time this comic gives you as much clear exposition as we got last week it's screaming "fraud"
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Sep 16, 2013 08:45
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Nah, not unless Jones is lying out her rear end 
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Sep 16, 2013 10:02
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I think Coyote's gonna jump in to save Annie from whatever the Seed is trying to pull here. It seems unlikely after what he tried to pull earlier, but at the same time who the hell really knows what his deal is.
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Sep 16, 2013 10:15
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Angry Avocado posted:I think Coyote's gonna jump in to save Annie from whatever the Seed is trying to pull here. It seems unlikely after what he tried to pull earlier, but at the same time who the hell really knows what his deal is. Yes, he might do that. She's his new medium after all. I assume this means an end to "the Seed is Coyote" theories. From the looks of it, Coyote doesn;t like the seed. Also "Bretheren". There are more seeds.
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Sep 16, 2013 10:30
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Angry Avocado posted:I think Coyote's gonna jump in to save Annie from whatever the Seed is trying to pull here. It seems unlikely after what he tried to pull earlier, but at the same time who the hell really knows what his deal is. I dunno. Coyote strikes me as the 'trickster as teacher' archetype, in that when someone falls for one of his tricks they tend to have an unpleasant and dangerous time of it, but they also profit by learning something from the experience. I suspect that his astral whispers of 'liar liar liar' are all the help Annie's getting from him directly at this point. If she's strong enough to resist the astral mosquito's attempt at infection then so much the better. If not, well she's got friends on the other side of the bridge who can help her deal with her passenger and maybe she'll be a bit more careful about seemingly benign spirits next time she visits the forest. In terms of direct rescue, the best we can hope for is that Ysengrim's finished mopping the forest floor and looks around in time to see what's going on. I doubt it though, the guy's having too much fun.
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Sep 16, 2013 10:30
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Just for those who aren't sure, this in the Ether, so it's definitely him.
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Sep 16, 2013 10:34
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Yeah, I don't think this is the real Seed anymore, just something with decent knowledge of it. That said, the implication that Coyote might be having trouble getting past this thing through to Annie, that he can't just pop up there and go "HEY ANNIE IT'S LYING SUP" is.. disturbing.
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Sep 16, 2013 11:45
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MikeJF posted:Yeah, I don't think this is the real Seed anymore, just something with decent knowledge of it. Why would he do that? It's not funny
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Sep 16, 2013 12:10
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Looks like I could be right about Fun City just giving you what you want, but it's also being malicious about it, or it's just a shapeshifter/mindreader/whatever. On the other hand the warning is coming from a literal Trickster God, so...
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Sep 16, 2013 12:41
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I'm in the camp that thinks that, in a shocking twist, Coyote is going to actually save Annie from this creature. I read his obvious presence here as him warning her of the danger. Then we will all be "oh see that coyote is actually a pretty neat guy we were kinda harsh with him" and then he'll be an rear end in a top hat again and laugh a whole lot and lessons will be learned all around.
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Sep 16, 2013 13:44
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I wonder if this is some sort of curiosity trap, rather than a deliberate attempt to deceive Annie? Anyhow, it's time to get your burn on, girl.
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Sep 16, 2013 14:10
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So I may be forgetting something, but has any newly-introduced character ever turned out to be Coyote in disguise?
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ProfessorProf posted:So I may be forgetting something, but has any newly-introduced character ever turned out to be Coyote in disguise?
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Sep 16, 2013 15:02
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... yeah it's a loyalty test. If Annie sides with the "Seed" here and agrees to take it back, she'll be offering to give the Court an advantage over the forest. Not a good idea for the brand new Forest Medium to do.
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Sep 16, 2013 15:38
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Mirage posted:... yeah it's a loyalty test. If Annie sides with the "Seed" here and agrees to take it back, she'll be offering to give the Court an advantage over the forest. Not a good idea for the brand new Forest Medium to do. I had wondered that, but then if that were the case Coyote probably wouldn't be busting in going LiarLiarLiarLiar all over it.
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Sep 16, 2013 15:42
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Yoya posted:It's extremely clear that coyote is appearing and pointing the fraud finger at the seed. The first time I read it, I just assumed it was Coyote being seen through his disguise. But that didn't make any sense just because it seems weird to telegraph something so obvious so quick. But then rereading the page I noticed the "liarliarliarliarliarliar" all across Coyote's ethereal form so yeah I think Coyote is calling the "Bismuth" a liar.
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Sep 16, 2013 15:43
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Maybe this is what Coyote hunts?
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Sep 16, 2013 16:15
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Of course! It's so blatantly obvious now! Coyote is out hunting Antimonies, and the "Seed Bismuth" was a lure!
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Sep 16, 2013 16:33
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ProfessorProf posted:So I may be forgetting something, but has any newly-introduced character ever turned out to be Coyote in disguise? That's the joke 
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Sep 16, 2013 18:06
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SHISHKABOB posted:That's the joke At least they're not calling everyone Eglamore anymore.
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Sep 16, 2013 18:35
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Yeah this seems kinda like that etheric spider that was hitching a ride on Jack.
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Sep 16, 2013 19:21
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What's going on in the center? Almost looks like people in there. At least three of them, and maybe a giant hand or some kind of animal. The things going into Annie's head reminds me of her father's bone fingers.
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mjau posted:What's going on in the center? Almost looks like people in there. At least three of them, and maybe a giant hand or some kind of animal. Where are you seeing these people? I'm pretty sure that's just the "Seed Bismuth" in a different form?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I'm with this guy. Ysen finally gets the punch fight he wants (So happy!) and Annie immediately and abruptly finds the Seed Bismuth which turns out is sentient and can give her the answers she so desperately seeks? This is literally too good to be true. I'm sticking with this and I bet this is just Coyote trying to pull Annie and Ysen out of the Joy Can. Or maybe this is some weirdo bug that wants to invade the court, tricking annie into taking it, but Coyote's here to stop him. You can't pull a con without him knowin in this forest.
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Sep 16, 2013 20:58
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It's turning from some kind of Abyss creature into some kind of glowing wasp.
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Sep 16, 2013 20:58
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Good thing Rey taught us how to get rid of those pesky invasive spirits.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I'm sticking with this and I bet this is just Coyote trying to pull Annie and Ysen out of the Joy Can. Fun City: Powered by the heart of an orphan child!
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Male Man posted:Good thing Rey taught us how to get rid of those pesky invasive spirits. Set them on fire and then eat them? I don't see Annie doing the latter, but I guess she could at least do the former. Burn the
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ProfessorProf posted:So I may be forgetting something, but has any newly-introduced character ever turned out to be Coyote in disguise? There was also this time when Coyote turned out to be Coyote in disguise!
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Potsticker posted:There was also this time when Coyote turned out to be Coyote in disguise! I kept reading a couple pages after that one (because of course) and remembered how much I love the "Coyote! Please have some dignity!" comic. Ysengrin funny faces are a rarity.
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Sep 16, 2013 21:53
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Cat Mattress posted:Of course! It's so blatantly obvious now! Coyote is out hunting Antimonies, and the "Seed Bismuth" was a lure! I was actually going to suggest that Coyote might have been hunting the Seed/s in the first place, and used Antimony to flush it out.
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Hodgepodge posted:I was actually going to suggest that Coyote might have been hunting the Seed/s in the first place, and used Antimony to flush it out. My friend, as someone who has a long experience of having jokes fly over my head, you just got whooshed.
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What the heck. I hope Tom gave his okay for that. (He probably did because he's swell.) Still, GC is a good comic, S&W... isn't. Seeing a character from GC used in S&W therefore infuriates me.
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