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eggrolled posted:What starting zone did you guys enjoy the most? I'm actually really enjoying Ul'dah, I played through all the starting zones and I think its definitely my favourite. Plus at night time you get some pretty lovely music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEyhHnQhg4
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Are Uldah or Limsa better? I know it's kind of s ubjective question, but am still curious. 
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eggrolled posted:What starting zone did you guys enjoy the most? Ul'dah are a bunch of greedy merchant bastards and mercenaries, their scenery is all desert and steppe style terrain Limsa is a bunch of pirates and traders, their scenery is all coastal seaside cliffs and beaches with jungles in the interior You'll have access to all three areas fairly quickly regardless of where you start, but since your starting city is tied to your class, you won't be able to (easily) travel to the other areas till level 15 (which does not take long) Both Ul'dah and Limsa's areas are indeed much easier to navigate than the forest around Gridania. I like all three  edit: Also I cannot unhear the superman theme song during daytime in Ul'dah. Gridania has the lord of the rings shire thing going on.
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Sheep posted:The cities are indeed pretty terrible, especially Limsa whatever. It's always such a pain trying to figure out where you need to go, not to mention all the wasted, unused space that is just devoted to making you run farther because immersion or whatever. What wasted, unused space? Look at 1.0 for some actual user-unfriendliness for immersion. You see all those transitions within cities, like Limsa's upper and lower decks, and the city exits? Those transitions did not exist in 1.0. You had to manually run through every tunnel in Gridania, and across every bridge and ramp in Limsa Lominsa.
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Sep 17, 2013 00:17
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My one dislike for the paladin quest line is the fact that your loving captain tries to kill you -AFTER- he gives you a full god damned set of armor (minus chest)
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Sep 17, 2013 00:18
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NeoBastok is obviously the best city.
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Sep 17, 2013 00:20
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How are Gridanians assholes? They were described as isolationist and a bit xenophobic, but as a Conjurer they never seemed all that bad. They're weird, because of all the elemental appeasement they do so that the forest doesn't swallow them whole, but they seemed like pretty decent people to me. Is there a horrible dark side where they cast people out and they turn into bandits because there's no other way to survive?
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Grondoth posted:How are Gridanians assholes? They were described as isolationist and a bit xenophobic, but as a Conjurer they never seemed all that bad. They're weird, because of all the elemental appeasement they do so that the forest doesn't swallow them whole, but they seemed like pretty decent people to me. Is there a horrible dark side where they cast people out and they turn into bandits because there's no other way to survive? Read the duskwight elezen lore play the archer storyline They're all a bunch of fucks.
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Doublestep posted:Read the duskwight elezen lore The lancer story, too. Foulques hates the Lancer's Guild and thinks they're cowardly because he was incorrectly accused of theft, but none of his guildmates would defend a Duskwight.
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Sheep posted:The cities are indeed pretty terrible, especially Limsa whatever. It's always such a pain trying to figure out where you need to go, not to mention all the wasted, unused space that is just devoted to making you run farther because immersion or whatever. I actually found Ul'dah to be far worse than Limsa, just because of how much loving space they put between each of the Aethernet crystals. Each entrance to Limsa leads to either an Aethernet crystal, or the Aetheryte plaza, and the crystals are all placed in such a way that getting to your destination from one is fairly painless. Getting around in Ul'dah, on the other hand, far more difficult because none of the loving crystals are in places that make sense, and they don't have a crystal near the market (unless you count the one on the other side of the loading screen). And if you're not using Aethernet to get around then get the gently caress on that. eggrolled posted:What starting zone did you guys enjoy the most? I personally really liked Limsa, but Ul'dah is also pretty good. Gridania is really the worst of the three cities to start in. ED: Grondoth posted:How are Gridanians assholes? They were described as isolationist and a bit xenophobic, but as a Conjurer they never seemed all that bad. They're weird, because of all the elemental appeasement they do so that the forest doesn't swallow them whole, but they seemed like pretty decent people to me. Is there a horrible dark side where they cast people out and they turn into bandits because there's no other way to survive? Wait'll you get to the Little Ala Mhigo part of the story. They really reveal themselves as xenophobic fucks there. Ed2: They also have a zero tolerance policy with poachers (which shows up in one of the quarrymill quests) where they dole out punishments far worse than the crime being committed. Between that and Toto-rak, I get the impression the Gridanians maintain their peaceful way of life by locking up or throwing out anybody who doesn't match up to that way of life. Lance Streetman fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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The Chairman posted:The lancer story, too. Foulques hates the Lancer's Guild and thinks they're cowardly because he was incorrectly accused of theft, but none of his guildmates would defend a Duskwight. He wasn't incorrectly accused of theft, he was a part of a trio and the other 2 didn't step up when he admitted to the theft, then the duskwight racism occured.
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Grondoth posted:Is there a horrible dark side where they cast people out and they turn into bandits because there's no other way to survive? I think that is exactly what Ala Mhigans are? Except they're also dicks who tried to invade Gridania so it's understandable?
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Lance Streetman posted:I actually found Ul'dah to be far worse than Limsa, just because of how much loving space they put between each of the Aethernet crystals. Each entrance to Limsa leads to either an Aethernet crystal, or the Aetheryte plaza, and the crystals are all placed in such a way that getting to your destination from one is fairly painless. Getting around in Ul'dah, on the other hand, far more difficult because none of the loving crystals are in places that make sense, and they don't have a crystal near the market (unless you count the one on the other side of the loading screen). This only works if you memorize what exit is near what crystal or pull up the map and check first. They could definitely make the Aethernet menu a bit more informative, or just pull up a map (or two!) and let you click where you want to go, which would probably be the best option.
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Sep 17, 2013 00:32
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I've really gotta make up my mind on what to level. As of just now I have 40 lancer, 35 marauder, 31 gladiator, and 30 thaumaturge, with a smattering of the rest as required. Eesh!
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Sep 17, 2013 00:43
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So, if I have the PC version, I have to buy a PS3 copy to play it on my PS3?
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Sep 17, 2013 00:44
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Verranicus posted:So, if I have the PC version, I have to buy a PS3 copy to play it on my PS3? You have to buy a copy for each platform you're playing on, but you can play the same character/account.
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Sep 17, 2013 00:45
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It puzzles me why more Arcanists don't cross-class the DOTs from the other two disciples of magic. It's free DPS and both your jobs are able to use them.
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Ronco Showtime posted:You have to buy a copy for each platform you're playing on, but you can play the same character/account. Can you download the PS3 version if you get a code or do you need a boxed copy? Also, have they even enabled digital sales again yet? Verranicus fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 00:49
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It puzzles me why more Arcanists don't cross-class the DOTs from the other two disciples of magic. Aero is useful at the lower levels, but by the time you start learning a few more spells it's largely useless, as Bio does the same thing but better. There's no reason to not cross-class thunder, though.
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Zaphod42 posted:Its the same as why everybody fights things solo. In this game, all you have to do is deal 20% of the damage and you get credit, you get XP just the same and you even get quest credit. Zaphod42 posted:And yet here I am level 30 and there's still people all around me that run after a mob, but then when I tag it, they ignore it and go looking for new ones. Then I /t them and let them know, and they're like "oh poo poo really?" I think I'm going to make m'self Yet Another Awesome Macro that puts that in /say or /yell. Oh, that's another anti-spambot effort that I've taken. I've turned off both /shout and /yell. Sometimes I come across an 'Asdf Ghjk' character standing in the inn repeating 'v' over and over. Not sure what's broken there, but I imagine they'd be /say bots if they weren't broken?  Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It puzzles me why more Arcanists don't cross-class the DOTs from the other two disciples of magic. I think my current plan is to get ACN/THM/CNJ all to 30 and ARC to 15 for maximum castery jobbiness. Schubalts posted:What wasted, unused space? Every time I come up to one of those dotted blue lines, I think how much more I'd like it (and how much more easily I'd remember where poo poo is) if I could run through the whole city without a drat loading screen, like...oh, every city in WoW. Even if they were divided into "seamless' zones with the box-shaped entrances or some such, I'd be OK with that. The ramps of Limsa Lominsa in particular seem like perfect candidates for WoW-style seamless zone transitions. Kenny Rogers fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Zaphod42 posted:From playing EQ, FFXI, and even WoW to some extent, lots of players are trained to wait for a rez. Even though in FFXIV this is COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. But that's the breaks. People can't/don't read. Dead Space makes it really clear to players through environmental messages, voice clips, tutorial pop-ups, etc. to shoot the limbs. There are people who complained online that the enemies were too tough or that headshots didn't take them down.
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Zaphod42 posted:Everybody says this, but I gotta wonder if you're doing them wrong or something. I get WAAAAY more XP from doing fieldleves than from just grinding. You don't get to keep the mats, true, that's the tradeoff. But I get like seriously twice as much XP than if I'd spent that time grinding. I really, really don't think this is true. The actual tradeleve experience is pretty decent though, especially if you do get the 25% bonus one, and this is really what puts you ahead on the time to level. It's still a pretty big slog though, and you do have to burn multiple tradeleves if you're not going off rest experience. I did 32->33 with leves and no rest experience and it still took ~6 leves.
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suction posted:Can crafted gears be competitive with gears you get from endgame dungeons?
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Not entirely true, you can craft ilvl 70 stuff that can be socketed with materia, making it equivalent or possibly even better than the current best non Coil gear ... except doing so is insanely expensive in terms of Philosophy stones, which you could just use to gear yourself out in Darklight soooo 
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For EQ nerds, did anyone else think Coerthas Highlands had a very Marus Seru/Sanctus Seru vibe going, except for the fact that their city looks like Katta Castellum? I hope they eventually open that city in a content patch. Maybe as a raid so I can kill those fanatical fuckers. So many times in that quest line I wished I could just blow those pompous xenophobes up and take what I needed instead of playing Game of Thrones or whatever. boho fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 01:42
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Is there any penalty to quitting dungeons besides not being able to queue again for 15 minutes? These three beginner dungeons will be the death of me. It's awesome queueing for an hour each time to get grouped with two complete retards and one LoL reject who constantly bitches at everyone without offering any advice. 
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boho posted:For EQ nerds, did anyone else think Coerthas Highlands had a very Marus Seru/Sanctus Seru vibe going, except for the fact that their city looks like Katta Castellum? Heretic spotted  Speaking of Ishgard, is their religion explained anywhere, like the nature of the Holy See and such, or do they just generally worship the twelve same as the rest of Eorzea? eta: i typed Isengard by mistake twice, damnit
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Painful Dart Bomb posted:Is there any penalty to quitting dungeons besides not being able to queue again for 15 minutes? These three beginner dungeons will be the death of me. It's awesome queueing for an hour each time to get grouped with two complete retards and one LoL reject who constantly bitches at everyone without offering any advice. I actually have found the level of play/teamwork to be higher than in other games. I'm not sure if this is because it's been a year since I've been playing MMO's so everyone understands basic dungeon theory more, or whether it's because I'm the tank and that eliminates the possibility of me having to deal with a shithead tank which is the worst.
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Just got this but both Exodus and Excalibur seem to be full.  Are server transfers going to be free or is it going to be something I have to pay like  for? I want to play but I want to play with goons so I'm not sure if I should just roll someplace random or what...
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Just got this but both Exodus and Excalibur seem to be full. I'd roll on that cactus server mentioned in the OP and then transfer later if it's something you want to do. Edit: VVV Nevermind I guess? I'd wait 1 server lock rotation (4 hours?) and if they aren't up I'd just start on another server and transfer in awhile. VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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VelociBacon posted:I'd roll on that cactus server mentioned in the OP and then transfer later if it's something you want to do. Every server mentioned in the OP is locked now (there's only 4 that aren't in the US at this time).
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Verranicus posted:Can you download the PS3 version if you get a code or do you need a boxed copy? Also, have they even enabled digital sales again yet? Quoting myself since I didn't get an answer. Can you get a code for the PS3 version and just download it, or do you need a physical disk?
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A handful of us are on ultros and we have a linkshell, but it's not terribly active.
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The servers open up during non-peak times. It should not be surprising that they are closed during NA primetime this close to release.
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PUPPY PUZZLE posted:I think that is exactly what Ala Mhigans are? Except they're also dicks who tried to invade Gridania so it's understandable? As I understand it, Ala Mhigo was a citystate somewhere ruled by a horrible tyrant, and the people eventually rose up and threw down the corrupt government, but the Empire was waiting for the civil war and pushed everyone out completely from the city. The citizens became the refugees at Little Ala Mhigo, the ex-Royal guards became those deathtalker bandits in the area. Basically they're a nation of people without a city to call home and totally destitute.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Just got this but both Exodus and Excalibur seem to be full. Log on around five or so in the morning, I was able to create a char on every high pop server I wanted to.
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There's a lot of blubbering on the official forums about the endgame, but I find ARR's launch endgame activities pretty decent. All the primal fights are great and a great deal more complex than their story mode versions, and they drop decent weapons. Amdapor Keep is a pretty laid back trash grind that I've found to be one of the more social activities in FFXIV. The Relic quest bosses were extremely difficult to coordinate with pugs but very rewarding when we finally beat them, and I imagine it'll be much easier to do on alts now that I've learned the fights. I have yet to touch coil but I'm told it's probably the best thing in the game right now, so it's something to look forward to! In short, I'd say this is one of the better MMO launch endgames we've participated in. That isn't to say it won't grow stale in time, but it's certainly better than, say, Guild Wars 2's.
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Verranicus posted:Quoting myself since I didn't get an answer. Can you get a code for the PS3 version and just download it, or do you need a physical disk? Last I checked a few hours ago, FFXIV still wasn't available for download on PSN, so the answer is no, you'll need to find a disc somewhere. I'm not sure how you'd download it with just the code anyways since you need to get it from the Playstation Store, unless it's one of those redeemable code things, which I kind of doubt.
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Super Space Jam 64 posted:There's a lot of blubbering on the official forums about the endgame, but I find ARR's launch endgame activities pretty decent. All the primal fights are great and a great deal more complex than their story mode versions, and they drop decent weapons. Amdapor Keep is a pretty laid back trash grind that I've found to be one of the more social activities in FFXIV. The Relic quest bosses were extremely difficult to coordinate with pugs but very rewarding when we finally beat them, and I imagine it'll be much easier to do on alts now that I've learned the fights. I have yet to touch coil but I'm told it's probably the best thing in the game right now, so it's something to look forward to! The endgame would be better in every way if tomestones, and the loot and crafting materials from tomestones, simply didn't exist.
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Ciaphas posted:Heretic spotted They appear to acknowledge the Twelve, but really only worship Halone. Expansion storyline speculation: It's all but assured at this point that Ishgard is going to be first expansion content, and I'm pretty sure I know how it's going to go down. Gaius' converation in the Praetorium is going to wind up being somewhat prophetic. Just as he said, a weak or desperate ruler is going to try and summon the Twelve just like any other Eikon and cause the EXACT same problems no different from a beastman. And what nation do we know that is the perfect mix of devout and desperate to do such a thing? Yeah. Ishgard is going to be egged into summoning Halone by the Ascians in the first expansion. The player characters will either A) Be supporting the Pope in trying to stop a misguided sect of fanatics from doing this or B) Be supporting a plucky band of more sane theologians in stopping the Pope from doing this.
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