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FunOne posted:So, if I read that correctly, the lowest it'll go is 110, then to 0 when the contract runs out. $120, but yes.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Did I miss a change in wireless technology in the last year that removed the limits of wireless bandwidth? The issue is, caps and overages aren't a way to combat congestion. A congested node with everyone under their cap is still a congested node. If I'm on a node that's only a partial capacity, why does it make sense to count my bandwidth usage the same as at an overcapacity site? It's not like that $10 overage you pay for going over your cap is directly funding infrastructure improvements. Soft caps are the way to go. I would have no issue with giving up 'unlimited' if it meant that I got full speed bandwidth for my first 2gb and am then throttled to something reasonable like 3Mbps for the remainder of my cycle. Congestion is a real problem and it does take money to upgrade networks to deal with it, but their pricing model really doesn't make a whole lot of sense for dealing with it. As to leaving, yes AT&T isn't unlimited anymore. But all that means is the playing field is leveled. AT&T coverage most places is nearly on par with Verizon and you get FAR more freedom of devices. The only reason why I tolerate the device selection and restrictions on Verizon at this point is because I'm grandfathered into unlimited. If that goes away, all bets are off and I'm going to evaluate all carriers equally. Honestly, AIO seems to be a direction I might lean. It's not super high speed, but 4Mbps is plenty fast enough to do what I want to do with a smartphone most of the time and they only throttle if you go past your cap. For $55 (including all taxes) for unlimited talk, text, and 2gb of data on AT&Ts network, it's really enticing compared to the $90ish I pay now after all taxes and fees and such. Then I also get a ton more freedom with devices. It's a snowball effect for me. If I switch my cellphone plan to someone else, I'm also likely to downgrade my FiOS service to internet only and rely on Hulu+ and Google Play for my TV since I'm getting a bundled discount right now.
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Sep 17, 2013 04:47
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Lowen SoDium posted:Did I miss a change in wireless technology in the last year that removed the limits of wireless bandwidth? Umm, this might have been the case with CDMA, but with real 4g on the way this is absolutely not the case. congestion (even in major cities) and the solution to it was almost finished being built out by verizon 2-3 years ago. Real network congestion on 4g doesn't exist, because you will not be on a single tower for pretty much any period of time. Also because data usage has no correlation to actual congestion which refers to phone calls, and not to data. To be honest, unlimited on 3g was bad. unlimited on LTE in any flavor however, is correct.
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Sep 17, 2013 05:00
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I'm heading to Verizon to upgrade off unlimited and get into that 6GB plan for $30. Is there a specific code or plan name I can tell them so they don't try and pitch me the Edge plan? Is it called Verizon Max?
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Sep 17, 2013 10:05
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Interested in that too. I might end up buying a 5S from the Apple store so I will probably go the retroactive route but good to know in case I go into VZW.
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Sep 17, 2013 13:19
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So I went ahead and started using my vzw iphone (4g lte) as a hotspot, and if it weren't for the data cap I would be absolutely thrilled. Here are my last 3 Speed tests, at different times of day on different days: Day 1: Ping 51 D/L: 28.33 U/L: 5.23 Day 2: Ping 69 D/L: 26.45 U/L: 3.91 Day 3: Ping 52 D/L: 25.82 U/L: 7.36 These numbers blow our old cable internet away, and I could easily use this for just about everything if it weren't for the cap. Unfortunately as soon as you add Netflix streaming or Dropbox to the mix (both of which I used extensively at our old place), you will blow through any data cap they give you. So this definitely works for now, but we will have to change our internet habits and I will have to do some stuff at the office that I used to do at home (in terms of transferring files to Dropbox). The speeds are fantastic, though.
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Sep 17, 2013 14:39
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Ishamael posted:So I went ahead and started using my vzw iphone (4g lte) as a hotspot, and if it weren't for the data cap I would be absolutely thrilled. What city? Just curious. Speeds in DC are about 10Mbps lower than that
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I'm helping a coworker buy his first smartphone. He's on Verizon right now with an ancient flip phone. He's looking to spend around $100 for a phone, hooked into a 2 year contract with a minimal data plan (to start with). I suggested the S3, since I have one and like it. But I'm also out of the loop on phones. Is there a better choice (Android or iOS) for that price range? He has no bias toward OS.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:27
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me your dad posted:I'm helping a coworker buy his first smartphone. He's on Verizon right now with an ancient flip phone. I would recommend a phone on the platform you currently have, since you are probably going to be fielding questions from him for a long time. The S3 is as good as any 100 dollar android phone.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:40
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Hughmoris posted:I'm heading to Verizon to upgrade off unlimited and get into that 6GB plan for $30. Is there a specific code or plan name I can tell them so they don't try and pitch me the Edge plan? Is it called Verizon Max? Let me know too. I'll probably do this on Friday when trying to get the 5s.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:41
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bull3964 posted:I'm on a single line account so that's not really an option. Thank god for family plans and compliant family members, I guess.
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Sep 17, 2013 15:51
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Yeah, my parents are pay as you go people and spend less than $30 /month on cell service and my sister's phone is provided by her job. It will never be in my financial advantage to go to a family plan.
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Hughmoris posted:I'm heading to Verizon to upgrade off unlimited and get into that 6GB plan for $30. Is there a specific code or plan name I can tell them so they don't try and pitch me the Edge plan? Is it called Verizon Max? Tell them it's the Verizon Max plan but be expected to have to call in. I doubt they'll know what the plan is and even if they did they'll probably be trying to sell you on the Edge plan first. This was from the first post in the thread about : SFO 79398: $30 Loyalty Max 6GB I didn't tell them that when I called as they just knew what it was but that might simplify it if you have them look that plan up.
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Sep 17, 2013 16:06
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Sigma posted:I would recommend a phone on the platform you currently have, since you are probably going to be fielding questions from him for a long time. The S3 is as good as any 100 dollar android phone. Thanks - that was my rationale as well. He's a longtime Verizon customer so I guess he should ask about the loyalty plan? I'm going to do my best to meet him at the Verizon store this weekend, but if I can't make it I want to help him as much as possible in advance. He's not the most savvy person.
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Sep 17, 2013 16:20
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bam thwok posted:What city? Just curious. Speeds in DC are about 10Mbps lower than that About 30 miles west of Raleigh NC.
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me your dad posted:I'm helping a coworker buy his first smartphone. He's on Verizon right now with an ancient flip phone. I would say an iPhone 5C would hit the spot here, really.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:19
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kitten smoothie posted:I would say an iPhone 5C would hit the spot here, really. Yup. Just tell him to get 5c and he'll be blown away.
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Sep 17, 2013 18:33
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Ishamael posted:About 30 miles west of Raleigh NC. Oh wow, I've been pulling down like one tenth of that in Durham lately on my Galaxy S3. I guess I should go in the store to get that checked out.
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Sep 17, 2013 19:24
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We're in a spot where we need to buy a phone today. Best Buy will price match Amazon and sell the Samsung S4 for $119. Verizon will sell it in-store for $199. Is there any reason not to use best buy when upgrading? The plan will change from nationwide f&f with unlimited to one of the share everything plans. It sounds like I'll have to call in to get the Verizon Max 6GB either way.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:34
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Hughmoris posted:We're in a spot where we need to buy a phone today. Best Buy will price match Amazon and sell the Samsung S4 for $119. Verizon will sell it in-store for $199. Is there any reason not to use best buy when upgrading? The plan will change from nationwide f&f with unlimited to one of the share everything plans. It sounds like I'll have to call in to get the Verizon Max 6GB either way. Not really, no. I think Best Buy is starting to pair down their price matching stuff though - they recently changed their Geek Squad insurance plan so now it's basically the same ripoff as the carrier's insurance (they used to not charge a deductible for replacement, but now they do) so I would maybe call up and double check on the Amazon price matching. Looks like they're starting to re-tool their pricing schemes a bit.
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Sep 17, 2013 20:41
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Verizon being petty and dickish for no good reason? Any company people able to shed light on this? http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/9/17/4741568/verizon-reportedly-wont-activate-nexus-7-on-its-network
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Sep 17, 2013 23:14
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Well, I would say they are about to get into trouble with the FCC again. My guess is it's a case of the systems being ill equipped to deal with BYOD to the network even though there's zero technical hurdles. They better get it sorted out soon or they'll be in trouble. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 23:39
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Just a follow-up from my purchase experience today. Went to Best Buy, was hoping they'd price match Amazon's price of the Samsung S4 for $129. They stated that they only match local competitors pricing on contract phones. However, the helpful rep called Sam's Club for me and Sam's was selling it for $98. Works for me! Of course, the best buy rep had no clue about the Verizon Max 6GB upgrade. He called Verizon Customer Support to work out some issues with the upgrade and their rep said Verizon Max is only available for Verizon Edge customers... Here's where it gets interesting. The Verizon customer service rep stated that she could put the phone on a $60 unlimited talk/text with 2GB of data. Due to trying to port out an old number at the same time, she stated I would have to call back tomorrow and try and get that plan. For our Verizon people here, have you heard of this seemingly amazing deal? The $60 was all inclusive for the voice/text/data.
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bull3964 posted:Well, I would say they are about to get into trouble with the FCC again. There was a useful comment on the G+ post here where this was originally brought up. It sounds like it is a system issue and not a policy issue. quote:
So basically, if you already have a Verizon SIM that is provisioned with service, stick it in the device. It'll apparently add your IMEI to the whitelist automatically. But if you don't already have service, well, you're kinda boned unless you borrow a MiFi or something so you have an IMEI to give them when establishing service. There are other comments there and on the associated Reddit thread that seem to corroborate this; lots of people were saying they pulled their SIM out of another Verizon device and popped it into a N7, and things just worked. edit: he also says at the end of this that he took the SIM from his Chromebook Pixel and put it in the N7, and it just worked. So I guess in his case he could just get a new SIM for the Chromebook and be in business, if not for the principle of the matter kitten smoothie fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Sep 18, 2013 |
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Ultimately though, it's Verizon fighting the spirit of the law even if they are obeying the letter. They technically aren't keeping any devices off the network. However, by making the process inordinately difficult, they are discouraging those devices. The system may be difficult to change, but it doesn't take much to send a memo out to store saying "pop an activated sim in the device first to auto-whitelist it and then issue a new one." They just aren't much motivated to do so. I don't expect the "system issue" to be fixed anytime soon.
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Test device ESN was showing as a "tablet" for a while on Share Everything plans. Someone try it and see if it works.
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Hughmoris posted:Just a follow-up from my purchase experience today. Went to Best Buy, was hoping they'd price match Amazon's price of the Samsung S4 for $129. They stated that they only match local competitors pricing on contract phones. However, the helpful rep called Sam's Club for me and Sam's was selling it for $98. Works for me! Maybe call back and try again tomorrow. They knew what I was talking about immediately. PM me and I'll send you the info for the rep I had helping me. He's from the tech support area so he may know more than the normal reps.
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SeaborneClink posted:Test device ESN was showing as a "tablet" for a while on Share Everything plans. Someone try it and see if it works. Please do not try to use the test device on a long term basis because it gets audited by the Verizon Secret Police. If you have an extra line you don't use but don't want to disconnect it because of ETF use an old ESN or Device ID from some other line. Your customer service person can look that up and put it in place for you.
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Realizing now that the droid maxx I just got has a different sized SIM card than my VZW gnex, so I guess I need an adapter now to pop the SIM card into my ipad. Anyone buy one of these that wasn't a dainty plastic piece of junk?
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bam thwok posted:Realizing now that the droid maxx I just got has a different sized SIM card than my VZW gnex, so I guess I need an adapter now to pop the SIM card into my ipad. Anyone buy one of these that wasn't a dainty plastic piece of junk?
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For what its worth for people interested in the Max/6GB plan, I called customer care, and she knew what I was referring to immediately, notated my account that I had already been proven eligible, and said to just go ahead and do the upgrade, then call back and they would change it. So basically what others in here have said, but I wanted to make sure.
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Watch Out Smarmy posted:You can get a new 4G LTE SIM from any corporate owned store for free. You can also order them from CS but it has standard two day FedEx shipping. Then what would I put in my phone? Can I have two active SIMs at once? No, right?
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bam thwok posted:Realizing now that the droid maxx I just got has a different sized SIM card than my VZW gnex, so I guess I need an adapter now to pop the SIM card into my ipad. Anyone buy one of these that wasn't a dainty plastic piece of junk? I just trimmed off the extra plastic of my big SIM card to fit into the nano size. You can also google a template to print out if you want a little more precision. edit: I had a nano sim card to use as a template and just used some sharp scissors. Basically just don't cut the gold part.
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On some SIMs you'll have to cut the gold, but it doesn't matter.
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Well, that was painless. Called Verizon back today and had my sister put on a Loyalty Plan since she was coming off an unlimited plan. Unlimited talk/text and 2GB for $60/mo. The most she has ever used in a month is 600MB. She gets Verizon coverage for almost pre-paid rates.
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It looks like Verizon is offering $200 for my iPhone 4S 16GB from Sprint if I trade in. My phone is in pretty much perfect condition except for a loose charging port. Any thoughts if I can get the full $200 (or close to it) for trade in value?
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Killmaster posted:It looks like Verizon is offering $200 for my iPhone 4S 16GB from Sprint if I trade in. My phone is in pretty much perfect condition except for a loose charging port. Any thoughts if I can get the full $200 (or close to it) for trade in value? Gazelle isn't even offering close to that. AT&T iPhones have the best resale value and Verizon ones are only ok, so I'm guessing you should go for it.
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Congobongo posted:I just trimmed off the extra plastic of my big SIM card to fit into the nano size. You can also google a template to print out if you want a little more precision. I don't get it  The new sim for my phone is smaller than the one my ipad takes (2nd or 3rd generation, I can never remember which). How is making it smaller going to help?
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Watch Out Smarmy posted:The test device ESN can be provisioned as any any type of device. It is not normally allowed to be used for longer than a week since it is used to suspend a line when the normal suspend/reconnect limit has been met for the day or when retardos can't figure out how to do a multi-line phone swap in one system order. Oh I know. I wasn't advocating parking it, simply activating the line with a test device to get the SIM scanned in and then device swap to the N7 IMEI
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Killmaster posted:It looks like Verizon is offering $200 for my iPhone 4S 16GB from Sprint if I trade in. My phone is in pretty much perfect condition except for a loose charging port. Any thoughts if I can get the full $200 (or close to it) for trade in value? That's rally good, you would be hard pressed to get that from eBay. For reference ATT would offer $155.
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