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no troi gets violated the most by far like god drat space was not kind to that woman
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haveblue posted:someone said earlier that enterprise was supposed to be the story of the creation of earth's first major starship and that they weren't even supposed to have launched the thing until well into the story Brannon Braga said that the plan was the first plan Berman came up with was that, it's in the comments section.
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Sep 17, 2013 21:19
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Brannon braga is the worst
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Sep 17, 2013 21:29
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Yo dudes, book recommendation: 2312 It owns
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Sep 17, 2013 22:28
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KSR owns, that ones been on my list for awhile gotta get done with school before I do any more serious reading
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Sep 17, 2013 23:34
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http://www.fastcodesign.com/3016899/all-80-original-star-trek-episodes-rendered-as-movie-posters 
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Sep 18, 2013 00:29
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write sci fi about how your starfleet captain has sex with alien babes
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Sep 18, 2013 00:35
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right i was saying farscape is already like the thing i said i wanted scrap that though i like this new idea about a civilization on the verge of ftl
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Sep 18, 2013 00:36
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stoutfish posted:write sci fi about how your starfleet captain has sex with alien babies
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Sep 18, 2013 00:45
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duTrieux. posted:is this why we got that "die hard in space" episode where it's just picard and some terror-thieves on an empty ship? hahah was that the one where he had to go back to get his saddle
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Sep 18, 2013 00:53
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if the transporter kills the person being transported and creates an exact duplicate at the destination, how does that account for Kirk talking through being transported in Star Trek six the undiscovered country
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Sep 18, 2013 00:54
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I think the same thing happened in one of the other TOS movies
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Sep 18, 2013 00:55
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dur posted:hahah was that the one where he had to go back to get his saddle yes
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Sep 18, 2013 00:57
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dur posted:if the transporter kills the person being transported and creates an exact duplicate at the destination, how does that account for Kirk talking through being transported in Star Trek six the undiscovered country the clone has his memories down to the last byte or whatever of data and is physically accurate down to the last atom and the tension state of his muscles, it would come out of the transporter thinking and posed like it was in the middle of saying the same sentence the original was
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Sep 18, 2013 00:57
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trek tech is inconsistent? say it ain't so, gene
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Sep 18, 2013 00:58
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:finally the first launch is sabotaged by extremists who think were going to pull GALACTIC DOOM down on our heads if we meet aliens stolen page by page from contact, too
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Sep 18, 2013 00:59
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didn't geordi once explain to some dude on a genetic purity planet that you aren't being rebuilt, it's still the same atoms and poo poo? (before he saved the day and was all "a blind man saved you I WOULDn"T HAVE EXISTED IN YOUR SOCIEYT
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Sep 18, 2013 01:01
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dur posted:if the transporter kills the person being transported and creates an exact duplicate at the destination, how does that account for Kirk talking through being transported in Star Trek six the undiscovered country it's a "fun" bit of philsophical masturbation that assumes that any break in consciousness is equivalent to death it's one of those things that is meant to make the person that won't shut up about it sound really smart, but instead just makes them an insufferable jackass
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Sep 18, 2013 01:02
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it's pretty much a half-step above trying to argue that every single character is massively delusional because FTL is literally impossible
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Sep 18, 2013 01:04
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the trek transporters don't just cause a "break in consciousness", they literally destroy the person and rebuild a duplicate from the original component atoms somewhere else
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Sep 18, 2013 01:06
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yes, trap sprung, but really how the hell is that not death
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Sep 18, 2013 01:07
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it doesn't even cause a break in consciousness, remember the episode where barclay is all scared of being torn apart at the atomic level and sees the weird floating worm things in the transporter beam that turn out to be people
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Sep 18, 2013 01:08
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Stymie posted:it doesn't even cause a break in consciousness, remember the episode where barclay is all scared of being torn apart at the atomic level and sees the weird floating worm things in the transporter beam that turn out to be people wat
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Sep 18, 2013 01:10
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thank god it's probably not actually possible otherwise it might be a worthwhile philosophical question
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Sep 18, 2013 01:10
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those worm things are some all time bad scifi special effects
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Sep 18, 2013 01:11
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Fear it was also a clever riff on the fact that murdoch is now the one that's scared of flying/transporting
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Sep 18, 2013 01:15
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Al! posted:those worm things are some all time bad scifi special effects yeah, they looked like a poo poo artist's impression of an amoeba
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Sep 18, 2013 01:16
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Stymie posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Fear Crusher has to surreptitiously sedate Worf before any Transporter beaming
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Sep 18, 2013 01:23
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your consciousness is the pattern of atoms, not the atoms themselves, hth. transporters don't kill you any more than eating and excreting does. it's philosophy 101 ship-of-theseus thought-wankery applied to a non-quantifiable concept of "self" basically if you want to argue that teleportation = death then you logically have to also believe in a non-physical soul so yeah
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Sep 18, 2013 01:24
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Crusher has to surreptitiously sedate Worf before any Transporter beaming lol
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Sep 18, 2013 01:24
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"transporters actually kill you" is right up there with "human brains are non-turing-computable" as far as horseshit is concerned
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Sep 18, 2013 01:25
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stoutfish posted:write sci fi about how your starfleet captain has sex with alien babes 
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Sep 18, 2013 01:34
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ol qwerty bastard posted:"transporters actually kill you" is right up there with "human brains are non-turing-computable" as far as horseshit is concerned lol you really are a transhumanist 
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Sep 18, 2013 01:37
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ol qwerty bastard posted:your consciousness is the pattern of atoms, not the atoms themselves, hth. well then it's kind of a problem that the pattern gets completely disrupted while those atoms are getting shuttled around, isn't it that's the whole point, trek transporters actually disassemble the body, record the pattern, shove the component atoms through bullshit-space, and reassembles them at the other end using the stored pattern. there's a period there where your atoms are just a disassociated mass of raw materials
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Sep 18, 2013 01:37
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okay well you're dead while you're being transported but then afterwards you are alive again
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Sep 18, 2013 01:40
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ol qwerty bastard posted:okay well you're dead while you're being transported but then afterwards you are alive again so, theoretically, if the pattern is the important thing (which is what you said earlier), the transporter could then use the pattern twice with two different sets of raw materials and reassemble two people instead of just one now which one of them is the original consciousness, and which is just a copy that thinks it's the original?
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Sep 18, 2013 01:44
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Stymie posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realm_of_Fear oh my god
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haveblue posted:the clone has his memories down to the last byte or whatever of data and is physically accurate down to the last atom and the tension state of his muscles, it would come out of the transporter thinking and posed like it was in the middle of saying the same sentence the original was to be fair the way transporters work is they copy the person and then destroy the original at the source
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Sep 18, 2013 01:52
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Heresiarch posted:yes, trap sprung, but really how the hell is that not death if a transporter rebuilds your body out of atoms different from the ones in your body before beaming then it replaces all the atoms in a few seconds but in one to two weeks ~60-75% of the atoms in you today will be gone and in 10-15 years maybe all of the atoms in your body will be replaced so why would one bother you but not the other
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w/r/t command staff beaming 2 a planet i rly l;iked when picard went to the swamp planet to gently caress around and got almost kiled by a space poison ivy monster that put like an invisible snake inside him or something. that was pretty cool. also, that ep w/ the invisible spiders that sucked out ur brainwaves or whatever was [pretty fraaky. dr crusher made that cool light and shined it on some dude and there was a shadow spider bug on him and it was shociking. space is hosed up and full of crazy poo poo also that time when worf raped? idk but definately bit troi and then turned into a monster. hahah and she turned into a fish
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