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Renoistic posted:It would help if her laugh weren't so creepy. I wouldn't believe it was Annie's laugh if it wasn't creepy.
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Segmentation Fault posted:You're going to want to strip that link, Akarin. Thanks dude, I'll remember that 
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akarin posted:Anyone else really enjoying the soundtrack? I kept noticing in the show how much emphasis the score placed on certain moments. The last minute of Vogel im Kafig especially. There was a month or so where I listened to literally nothing else. Now I'm doing that with the Gatchaman Crowds OST which, imo, is even better, and far more unique and interesting.
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The soundtrack is pretty good, but someone pointed out to me that it was by the same composer as Guilty Crown, which kind of ruined it because they sound almost exactly the same.
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Someone lovely laid the sizes of the walls over Google Earth.   Wall Sina (250km radius): 196,350km2 (75,811mi2)  Senegal, Africa: 196,722km2 (75,955mi2) Washington, USA: 184,665km2 (77,116mi2) To fly from one side to the other would take about 0:33. To take a train from one side to the other would take about 3:56. To drive from one side to the other would take about 5:00. To walk from one side to the other would take almost 17 days.  Wall Rose (380km radius): 453,646km2 (175,154mi2) Sweden, Europe: 450,295km2 (173,860mi2) Caspian Sea, Asia: 394,299km2 (152,239mi2) Japan, Asia: 377,930km2 (145,920mi2) To fly from one side to the other would take about 0:50. To take a train from one side to the other would take about 5:59. To drive from one side to the other would take about 7:36. To walk from one side to the other would take about 25 days.  Wall Maria (480km radius): 723,823km2 (279,470mi2) Texas, USA: 695,621km2 (268,580mi2) Burma, Asia: 676,578km2 (261,228mi2) Alberta, Canada: 661,848km2 (255,541mi2) To fly from one side to the other would take about 1:04. To take a train from one side to the other would take about 7:33. To drive from one side to the other would take about 9:36. To walk from one side to the other would take 32 days.
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Sep 18, 2013 23:57
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Bisensual posted:Someone lovely laid the sizes of the walls over Google Earth. That's actually way bigger than I thought it was.
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Bisensual posted:Someone lovely laid the sizes of the walls over Google Earth. Dude. That's pretty drat awesome. ViggyNash posted:There was a month or so where I listened to literally nothing else. Now I'm doing that with the Gatchaman Crowds OST which, imo, is even better, and far more unique and interesting. I'll check that out tomorrow when I get home! And I'd recommend anything by Yuki Kajiura or Yoko Kanno if you're looking for more good music.
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AnacondaHL posted:but how long on horseback Horses can apparently go 80 km/h. The car times are 100 km/h. So. Math.
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A horse is not running at 80km/h for 12 hours. (Basically the area enclosed by the walls are ridiculously and impracticably large).
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Phobophilia posted:A horse is not running at 80km/h for 12 hours. Not impracticable if they're for saving as many people as possible.
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How the gently caress were those walls even built anyways? I know that people rant about ~the gods~ giving the walls to humanity, could that mean that human titans were involved with it?
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Marxalot posted:How the gently caress were those walls even built anyways? I know that people rant about ~the gods~ giving the walls to humanity, could that mean that human titans were involved with it? People have been ranting about ~*~The Gods~*~ giving literally everything from fire to iPads to humanity so there's also that to consider.
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Marxalot posted:How the gently caress were those walls even built anyways? I know that people rant about ~the gods~ giving the walls to humanity, could that mean that human titans were involved with it? The walls seem like they're going to be one of the big mysteries of the show. They would have to have been built before titans existed, but why would you build 50m high walls unless you know the titans are coming? Where did they get the obscene amount of stone/labor to build it? I'm sure when it comes up the Wall cult is going to have our answers, maybe they're even responsible for creating titans and they built the walls because they knew they were coming.
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The Ming portion of the Great Wall of China--the one you think about when you think of the Great Wall--is between 5 and 8 meters tall and is 6,259 km long, and took approximately 20 years to complete. If you assume that Wall Maria is about twice as thick as the Great Wall, then Maria has (very) roughly 4 times more building material than the Great Wall. Using Ming Chinese technology and labor practices, it would therefore (again, very) roughly take 80 years to build Wall Rose. Unless they already built it for some reason, they were built by Atlanteans/Aliens/Titans.
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MetricUnit posted:The walls seem like they're going to be one of the big mysteries of the show. They would have to have been built before titans existed, but why would you build 50m high walls unless you know the titans are coming? Where did they get the obscene amount of stone/labor to build it? I'm sure when it comes up the Wall cult is going to have our answers, maybe they're even responsible for creating titans and they built the walls because they knew they were coming. The Titans have existed before the walls. They've actually be in existence for less than 100 years, as the whole reason they got built in the first place was humanity was nearly wiped out when the Titans first appeared. The only reason they were able to survive was they were able to retreat and concede most of the world in exchange for building walls to keep the Titans out. I suppose it's possible that the construction of the walls will become a bigger plot point, but it seems more like a "This is a premise you have to accept or the story is not going to make any sense" kind of thing, without worrying about how they were able to construct walls that thick and high. And you could justify that, too, by saying it's possible the first walls were pretty weak, but humanity has been gradually strengthening them over time. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Yeah, but how the gently caress do you build a giant rear end wall while keeping titans at bay? I'm glad this came up. I've been asking that question for a while.
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Bisensual posted:Yeah, but how the gently caress do you build a giant rear end wall while keeping titans at bay? Well, unless we know more about when they first showed up, it's hard to say. Did they show up all over the place at once, or did the Titans first show up in one specific area? If it's the first, then I really have no idea, but if it's the second, then it's possible some survivors had the bright idea not to stand and fight but just constantly retreat to Titan-less areas and start building while everyone else was getting slaughtered.
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I don't exactly have the details, but I've been spoilt about how the walls were built. It's weird enough that I'm really curious to find out more, but alas, that'll have to wait until they either (a) explain in this season, or (b) I read the manga after this season ends.
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Well it wouldn't have to be 50m high for it to start being effective, 20m give or take would take care of most abnormal situations. They probably built from the inner wall outwards, taking as much land as they could before the rest of humanity died off. And you can assume they used the resources from that mountain in the inner wall, using a play from the Code Geass-Sakuradite-Mt. Fuji playbook. Or it could be something simple and boring like warring states led to one nation building a wall, and they conquered and expanded twice.
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Bisensual posted:Yeah, but how the gently caress do you build a giant rear end wall while keeping titans at bay? 
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You know one of my favorite things about this show/manga is that everything and anything that comes up ever is an important detail. Pretty much everything is foreshadowed even if you don't know it yet. In many cases the answers are probably already in front of us. LeafyOrb fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Phobophilia posted:A horse is not running at 80km/h for 12 hours. I don't know, the horses in this show seem to operate like machines and just run at high speed at an extremely consistent pace, for hours at a time. I'm no horse person, but wouldn't that kill the horses in short order?
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They learned to make super-hardened steel so obviously they learned how to make super-hardened horses.
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Sindai posted:They learned to make super-hardened steel so obviously they learned how to make super-hardened horses. By resisting them super-hard? I know that can harden part of a horse, at least.
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LeafyOrb posted:You know one of my favorite things about this show/manga is that everything and anything that comes up ever is an important detail. Pretty much everything is foreshadowed even if you don't know it yet. So what you're saying is that they've applied titan magic/technology to horses. It's the only explanation. So it's only a matter of time before they lose control of these horses and they start eating people. Well, there's precedence for that. Edit: ^^^oh god why did you go there.
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The aliens and supernatural talk makes me wish one of the titans ends up looking like that history channel guy with the crazy hair.
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snucks posted:Maybe the livestock analogy is literal and the titans built the wall to sustainably farm humans It been said more than once that Titans don't actually eat humans for nourishment and just vomit the bodies up later.
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Sylphid posted:it seems more like a "This is a premise you have to accept or the story is not going to make any sense" kind of thing Not to mention that having an entire religion "come and go and come again" (remember in the latest episode the guy saying "oh it's a Wallist, I thought those guys disappeared" as if they were once a large group but at the trial the guy says the Wallists are "starting to grow in population" meaning they are making a comeback) based on the walls existence in just 100 years is utterly ridiculous. 100 years is a short enough time that records of how the walls were built should be all over the place. The fact that they aren't (and/or aren't detailed enough to disprove Wallists) just screams further conspiracy. Not to mention all the other random halfway-point infographics saying things like "how this works is a secret" or "this is classified information" means there's definitely a bigger conspiracy just the titan existence.
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I would like to believe that is what is going on, there is a conspiracy, but it's probably really just a huge plot hole.
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Sakurazuka posted:It been said more than once that Titans don't actually eat humans for nourishment and just vomit the bodies up later.
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Captain Invictus posted:Haven't you ever heard of binging and purging? So if we just take the titans to therapy for eating disorders, everything will be okay? 
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I said come in! posted:So if we just take the titans to therapy for eating disorders, everything will be okay? Then they'll just eat without vomiting, so you'll have less people eaten but you won't get any remains afterwards to bring to their family members.
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Yasser Arafatwa posted:The aliens and supernatural talk makes me wish one of the titans ends up looking like that history channel guy with the crazy hair. I'm not saying it's titans. But it's titans.
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I said come in! posted:I would like to believe that is what is going on, there is a conspiracy, but it's probably really just a huge plot hole. Yeah I'm sure there's absolutely no explanation for this ridiculous, seemingly inexplicable thing that's central to the premise of the show and is nearly impossible to miss. If you'd said "I bet the author hasn't actually thought of a reason yet" you might have a point, although I still think I'd disagree. They've been pretty good about foreshadowing the twists so far.
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I think you give this show more credit then it deserves. The writing and development of characters and themes is really lackluster. There are a lot of things we are expected to just accept or come up with in our imaginations. I really like SNK, but it could be way better then it is.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:II IIRC Isayama pre-planned the entire story ahead of time (which is probably why the foreshadowing is so good). It's possible he hasn't come up with an explanation, but for something that big, it's likely he has.
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Iunno, I can accept that the author has already planned things out. That sort of action doesn't really carry a value judgment with it though. There are plenty of meticulously planned stories that blow, and plenty of stories that make it up as they go along turn out fine. Based on what I've seen out of the anime I can tell that he has things planned out though it does feel like he has the tendency to advance the plot at the expense of character development. Srice fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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