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tef posted:target market: dudebros an elite dudebro crew that is secure in their sexuality the pnp meetups might get a little scary. let's just say it won't be beer and pizza
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Otto Skorzeny posted:totes (adj.) - completely. "Erlang's string handling is totes annoying". Paul "I'm not racist" Graham posted:Having strings in a language seems to be a case of premature optimization.
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tef posted:still, php is old news, why bother learning two languages? that just seems like effort still waiting for someone to write a web server in php
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http://nanoweb.si.kz/ posted:Also being written in PHP makes it very easily extensible with custom modules, and secure because - running inside the Zend scripting engine - it's immune to a number of common security threats (format strings, buffer overflows, ...).
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this isn't really programming languages but it's loving hard to write a long post using bbcode after using markdown for literally everything
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abraham linksys posted:this isn't really programming languages but it's loving hard to write a long post using bbcode after using markdown for literally everything markdown just works exactly how i already write everywhere gruber did a good thing
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yeah the lovely thing about markdown is the total lack of a standard for it. i thought fatwood was gonna fix that, what happened  (it's really goofy that you can't use github-style code fences in the default jekyll configuration on github pages!)
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this isn't a standard?
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Sep 19, 2013 21:31
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everybody has their own customizations and tweaks to markdown
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https://help.github.com/articles/github-flavored-markdown
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gfm should be a defacto standard at this point - it's what's expected - but there's always issues e: btw i wrote a dumb effortpost on modern front-end dev if you want to read that for some reason http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3571035
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Dessert Rose posted:this isn't a standard? no, it's an informal description that leaves all the interesting (from the standpoint of a proper implementation that is not some perl regex bullshit) details un- or underspecified. edit: i.e. where's the loving grammar double riveting fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Sep 19, 2013 |
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Sep 19, 2013 21:57
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double riveting posted:no, it's an informal description that leaves all the interesting (from the standpoint of a proper implementation that is not some perl regex bullshit) details un- or underspecified. speeeerrrrrrrrg
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for what markdown is that is a totally sufficient standard. the real problem with markdown is that it completely sucks a dick whenever you try and do something beyond the absolute basics with it i.e. put a code block in a list
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i once made a personal website by combining markdown with some js markdown bootstrap magic thing it was very pleasant and easy http://strapdownjs.com/ that thing
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Sep 19, 2013 22:06
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md is good for git readmes and maybe a jekyll blog
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Tiny Bug Child posted:for what markdown is that is a totally sufficient standard. tiny bug shaggar was right
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Tiny Bug Child posted:for what markdown is that is a totally sufficient standard. right, because how the gently caress would you implement that with a regex
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regex is cool as long as you dont overuse it (overuse it == use it at all heh heh heh)
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markdown is designed for wiki/forum markup so idk why it would need a standard. just put a mark down link next to the entry field like the bbcode link on these very forums.
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gucci void main posted:regex is cool as long as you dont overuse it however, the markdown reference implementation which is as close to a formal spec as you're going to get is built on them, because perl. and that is precisely why "the absolute basics" like nested structures suck dick, i.e. you can't rely on whatever implementation you have supporting them. regular expressions are incapable of expressing these structures and without any other spec everyone is at best left guessing what's supposed to be what...
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Tiny Bug Child posted:for what markdown is that is a totally sufficient standard. you literally cannot see the connection between "it doesn't specify an actual grammar" and "it breaks whenever you try to do anything nontrivial" ~tbc~
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PleasingFungus posted:you literally cannot see the connection between "it doesn't specify an actual grammar" and "it breaks whenever you try to do anything nontrivial" 
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who the hell refers to ( as a "T_CLOSE_BRACES"
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qntm posted:who the hell refers to ( as a "T_CLOSE_BRACES" idk. not php
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i like how github's readme supports every markup language in the universe except html
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im the unticked_statement no wait im the expr_without_variable
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Tiny Bug Child posted:idk. not php T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
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i'm the T_SEMICOLON ?>
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Malcolm XML posted:T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM i'm willing to let a lot of php poo poo slide but this one has never and will never make any sense
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fidel sarcastro posted:i'm willing to let a lot of php poo poo slide but this one has never and will never make any sense why do you hate the jews
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Malcolm XML posted:T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM whoaaaaa they use the name of the operator as the name of the token. that's so crazy. next thing you know they'll be calling plus signs T_PLUS or something
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they should just use the universally accepted sign +
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tbc i think that is even a little too far for you
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i wonder how long the "frontend development" thread will go before it dies
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gucci void main posted:tbc i think that is even a little too far for you
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gucci void main posted:i wonder how long the "frontend development" thread will go before it dies longer than your last gig, at least
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abraham linksys posted:longer than your last gig, at least HO HO HO look at you
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how's lovely rear end bushwick or whatever the gently caress you're living in going
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