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JawKnee posted:I guess it would depend on how militant they cops/govt got about it; for example, there are already late night illegal venues that still serve booze, they do this knowing that they'll eventually get shut down by the liquor board and fined, but they make bank off've being one of a very few amount of places still open and serving. Now if only the place played hot jazz and the employees spoke in jive.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:The broadband caps are terrible. ... and totally in the same league as Uganda's "KILL ALL GAYS" laws as far as Netflix is concerned.
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InfiniteZero posted:... and totally in the same league as Uganda's "KILL ALL GAYS" laws as far as Netflix is concerned. Hell, if I don't get to watch House of Cards at 2am in my underware, it's like I'm in a North Korean Re-education camp dammit!
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Sep 19, 2013 17:57
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spacemost posted:Now if only the place played hot jazz and the employees spoke in jive. They do have live bands. Not so much on the jive talk, though. (and seriously, the snacks are OJ are very reasonably priced.) Can we all rally in support behind the Sex Party? You BCers get all the luck. All we ever get over in Ontario is the likes of the Family Party, the Freedom Party, the Party for People with Special Needs, etc.
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Sep 19, 2013 18:17
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JoelJoel posted:They do have live bands. Not so much on the jive talk, though. (and seriously, the snacks are OJ are very reasonably priced.) gently caress that, I live in Ontario and I voted for Radical Marijuana in the last federal election.
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InfiniteZero posted:... and totally in the same league as Uganda's "KILL ALL GAYS" laws as far as Netflix is concerned. You're taking his hyperbole to hyperbolic levels. The broadband caps in Canada are terrible. They are incredibly stiffing. Bell, Rogers, Telus, Cogeco, Shaw and Videotron do everything they can to distort statistics and not look like the worst modernized country next to New Zealand for broadband access. This stuff doesn't even touch the even more horrid upload speed caps that hardly a single service in Canada provides over 1mb. The fact we just accept it because there's no alternative is sad. So yeah, I'm more than fine with the Netflix CEO being hyperbolic because he can't make more money on Canadians due to our ridiculously low data caps and ridiculously low speeds. He isn't the only business owner who hurts due to it.
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Communocracy posted:Tonight you can ask the NDP questions directly, right in my neighbourhood! 310 Danforth avenue, 6:30 - 8:30 pm. Toronto, Ontario. http://craigscott.ndp.ca/democracy-day-on-the-danforth-2013-09-19 There's also an NDP party at Pogue Mahones on Bay st. at 7pm. Tommy "Douglas" Mulclair will be in attendance. I was going to check it out on a whim but I'm too busy this week.
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:So yeah, I'm more than fine with the Netflix CEO being hyperbolic because he can't make more money on Canadians due to our ridiculously low data caps and ridiculously low speeds. He isn't the only business owner who hurts due to it. 
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THC posted:Please tell us more about how not being able to download a shitload of movies really fast all the time is morally equivalent to slavery and torture. Never denied it was hyperbole but you're more than welcome to keep cherry picking.
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THC posted:Please tell us more about how not being able to download a shitload of movies really fast all the time is morally equivalent to slavery and torture. gently caress you, I pay $110 for 100mbit 500 GB cap internet and love every minute of it. I'm actually grandfathered in with free phone service, it's even more expensive now!
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Telus pretty much doesn't even enforce their landline caps unless you are an egregious offender, and even then they always send you a warning first. Speaking of hyperbole, here's Terrence Corcoran with the latest from the front. quote:So here’s the latest U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission scheme to enhance investor protection and kick-start America’s engines of growth and job creation: Promote class warfare within each corporation directly between the CEO and the company’s employees. And then turn the whole business of CEO-employee compensation comparisons into a national affair. Disclosing CEO pay? THATS CLASS WARFARE 
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Oh My God, shut up. Who the gently caress cares what the CEO of Netflix said. If you want to feel righteously outraged about something stupid and inconsequential, go to Tumblr. If you want to valiantly defend the CEO of a multi-million dollar company, also go to Tumblr. Meanwhile, in News concerning actual human rights: "CTV posted:Canada criticized for rejecting UN call to review violence against Aboriginal women
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So we're just going to play the 'YOU GUYS ARE WORSE' game out of spite, even though it's a good idea. That's amazing. Actual aboriginal women are going to suffer because Canada needs its ego fellated.
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And in Ontario Political Party News, The Conservatives are continuing to go towards a full on civil war at this rate."OPCCA and OPCYA Executives Condemn Constitutional Changes" posted:
Ha ha, holy poo poo this is beautiful. If the OPCs fail, it means that the OLP (I hope) will start doing more left policies so that we can court ONDP voters. Either that or the ONDP get it. Either way, it looks less likely there will be a Premier Hudak.
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THC posted:Please tell us more about how not being able to download a shitload of movies really fast all the time is morally equivalent to slavery and torture. This is the most canadian of responses. "Like sure we're getting ripped off eh, but it's mighty bad in Africa right now don't ya know so we shouldn't be complaining so much."
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Banning party staffers from serving as elected officials on party committees and instances seems like a good idea, though? There's a special kind of rot and perversity that can set in when the party's payroll also happens to be the one calling the shots "in the name" of the grassroots - if the leader gets to fire you in your real job and you also happen to serve on the party executive, well, that means the leader effectively controls your vote on the party executive. If you want your party organisation to actually represent the grassroots, banning staffers is a necessary step.
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Andrew Coyne asks, if unpaid internships are so bad, why do "the kids" take them? Clearly this is just good, wholesome, natural market forces at work.quote:What’s harder to explain is why the kids accept the offers. The easy answer (it’s exploitation, innit?) seems harder to apply in a case where the pay is not low, but zero. People may be hard up enough for cash to take a lousy, low-wage job — it’s better than nothing, after all — but when the pay is not, in fact, better than nothing, why not just stay home? Plainly they must feel they are getting something in return: not as much as they’d like, but enough to make it worth their time.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:There's also an NDP party at Pogue Mahones on Bay st. at 7pm. Tommy "Douglas" Mulclair will be in attendance. Shame on them, I would have hoped they could pick a cooler bar than that.
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THC posted:Andrew Coyne asks, if unpaid internships are so bad, why do "the kids" take them? Clearly this is just good, wholesome, natural market forces at work. People keep on telling me that Coyne is reasonable but I never see it.
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Cordyceps Headache posted:Oh My God, shut up. Who the gently caress cares what the CEO of Netflix said. If you want to feel righteously outraged about something stupid and inconsequential, go to Tumblr. If you want to valiantly defend the CEO of a multi-million dollar company, also go to Tumblr. Canada criticized by Cuba Iran and Russia*!!!!! *and a billion other countries not mentioned until five paragraphs in, but we need to blatantly spin this.
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THC posted:Andrew Coyne asks, if unpaid internships are so bad, why do "the kids" take them? Clearly this is just good, wholesome, natural market forces at work. Ah, yes, 30-40 year old kids. I forgot about that demographic.
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THC posted:Andrew Coyne asks, if unpaid internships are so bad, why do "the kids" take them? Clearly this is just good, wholesome, natural market forces at work. This is as close to "thinking out loud" as an opinion column can get, complete with not getting to a point before the end.
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Linda chant started in Pogue's just as the Senators score. Faux pas of the night.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:People keep on telling me that Coyne is reasonable but I never see it. Coyne is reasonable*. *as long as he's not talking about economics or in fact anything to do with money.
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Dallan Invictus posted:Coyne is reasonable*. Well his dad was the Governor of the Bank of Canada, so clearly Andrew Coyne is extremely qualified to comment on economic matters. Incidentally, James Coyne survived until the ripe old age of 102, which means we can look forward to at least another 4 or 5 decades of Andrew Coyne's well thought out views  It's interesting to juxtapose Coyne's support for a guaranteed minimum income with his support for unpaid internships and keeping the minimum wage low. Who is going to pay for this?
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JawKnee posted:Or hate speech laws Or feminism. Geez, how could I forget the TREMENDOUS bug he has up his rear end about feminism. (mostly because he almost never writes about it and expresses it purely through Twitter snark).
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Okay, trip report from Pogue Mahoney's last night - I feel like Linda has a lot of moderate socialists around her, and she's definitely pulling in talent from other areas of the NDP. There was a LOT of talk about income inequality, which is awesome - even if it was preaching to the converted. However, whenever she hit a topic she didn't really know about, she started talking very loudly about democracy. Later on in the night, an organizer introduced me to her and I couldn't tell if she was exhausted or drunk, but she could barely form a sentence. She also looked like hell warmed over. Mercifully, a public relations lady killed the conversation to introduce a donor.
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I keep on getting reminded that Canada has a serious racism problem, especially when it comes to our First Nations relations. I know I shouldn't read comments on news articles, and I especially shouldn't engage folks on them, but drat.  drat
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JohnnyCanuck posted:I keep on getting reminded that Canada has a serious racism problem, especially when it comes to our First Nations relations. I had managed to lull myself into thinking it wasn't actually that bad, seeing as it had been decades since I had seen any of it in real life. Unfortunately while fishing on Vancouver Island this summer I overheard some older gents talking about "the indians" which managed to dash my blissful ignorance.  I want to believe it is a partial generational thing, but I anticipate being disappointed with that should I spend anytime in small town Canada.
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ocrumsprug posted:I had managed to lull myself into thinking it wasn't actually that bad, seeing as it had been decades since I had seen any of it in real life. Unfortunately while fishing on Vancouver Island this summer I overheard some older gents talking about "the indians" which managed to dash my blissful ignorance. I'm sorry to tell you this but it even extends to supposedly-liberal young people in cities as well. I know someone who's pretty liberal on most issues but goes into a violent rage about how lazy and ungrateful First Nations people are any time they're brought up. They're the one racial group here in Canada that it's okay to just be overtly racist against, and so a lot of young white people seize that opportunity in a big way.
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vyelkin posted:I'm sorry to tell you this but it even extends to supposedly-liberal young people in cities as well. I know someone who's pretty liberal on most issues but goes into a violent rage about how lazy and ungrateful First Nations people are any time they're brought up. They're the one racial group here in Canada that it's okay to just be overtly racist against, and so a lot of young white people seize that opportunity in a big way. Just the other day I was in a restaurant (I live/work in the heart of Toronto) and there were three people uncomfortably trying to argue with a fourth in their party about Natives and tax status. The one girl was in polite company so she was trying her damndest to avoid confrontation while still trying to basically say: 'Look they were systematically loving destroyed and indoctrinated and raped and kidnapped and experimented on and electro-shocked as recent as your parents being in high school so are you really that jealous that the country pays for the GST on their groceries?"
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Also, while all that is true, it's worth considering that right before that, they basically gone through a series of culture destroying epidemics brought about by European disease; while them getting it wasn't really intentional (except in isolated cases where it was), and thus not really anyone's fault, it's still absolutely crazy to think that when Europeans really started arriving in Canada, the Indians themselves would have seen themselves to be the survivors in some post-apocalyptic wasteland. Then whitey arrives in force and starts pushing them around.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Yeah, I'm rinning into a lot of vile poo poo from right here in Ottawa. Over the Redskins thing, yeah?
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Over the Redskins thing, yeah? Yeah. If anyone cares: Ottawa has a group of junior football teams that use the name Nepean Redskins. The organization has finally realised that it's just a little too racist to continue using, so they've announced they're gonna change it. This brought out all the racists. All of them. I tried my best when the article was posted on the Citizen's Facebook page and in the artcile comments themselves, but now I'm ground down and need alcohol. I haven't dared look at the Ottawa Sun's version of events becasue I think I still want to live.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Yeah. Come to the Ottawa goonthing tonight then. I am bringing booze.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Come to the Ottawa goonthing tonight then. I am bringing booze. Where and when?
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Where and when? Check the Ottawa Goon FB page
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