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ChaosArgate posted:I feel like Gambler already had that as one facet of the title though. Celes was a massive liar at the very least. Too bad she wasn't that great at it when it actually mattered most.
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Sep 24, 2013 22:15
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Psych posted:Even a SHSL Gambler can't win when they have SHSL luck is turned against them. Or being overly-aggressive with her accusations and coming off as suspicious almost immediately.
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Sep 24, 2013 22:17
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A Bystander posted:Or being overly-aggressive with her accusations and coming off as suspicious almost immediately. And going along with an absolutely ridiculous plot to frame somebody else using a mecha suit. Seriously, you'd think she'd have thought that through and realized how stupid it was.
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Sep 25, 2013 01:17
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Hazdoc posted:And going along with an absolutely ridiculous plot to frame somebody else using a mecha suit. Seriously, you'd think she'd have thought that through and realized how stupid it was. The mecha suit wasn't her idea, though. She just wanted Yamada to make a suit that would conceal a person's identity. It was his stupidity that introduced that particular flaw.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:03
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Last night I was thinking about this and I think I've guessed the twist. I'm going to spoiler it because honestly I think I've got it right. Disclaimer: No I didn't go and check I'm not a dick  Togami was in a fatsuit, he's not dead. He's the mastermind/in on it. Someone please prove me wrong, I want to not be right but I have that sinking feeling I am.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 25, 2013 02:15
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Wyvernil posted:In order to redirect speculation away from debating the possibility of cyborg gangsters, I've compiled a list of the unanswered questions that have come up so far in the game. Whatever happened to the Transylvania Twist?
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Sep 25, 2013 02:17
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Stoat posted:Last night I was thinking about this and I think I've guessed the twist. I'm going to spoiler it because honestly I think I've got it right. Disclaimer: No I didn't go and check I'm not a dick There's no way Togami is the mastermind, he's been seen both around Monomi and Monobear not operating any controls, plus they checked his pulse when his body was discovered. Dude was deader than dead.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:25
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It occurs to me that, at this point in DR1, we already had 5 people down, out of a group that only started with 15. And 3 more died in Chapter 3. Then the pace slackened and only one more person died for the rest of the game (well, two if you count Junko)... So far in DR2 we're losing the cast at a much more controlled pace. I wonder if this game is going to have more chapters than the first game, more survivors, or a massive kill off... I'm pretty cool with all of these options. I'll be honest, there are only maybe 4 people I'm still hoping will survive- Hinata is kind of a given, plus Nanami, Gundam, and Ibuki. Souda, Sonia and Akane I could take or leave. Most of the rest just seem to be waiting for their turns to die. Kuzuryuu will probably go full Ishimaru and come back with an awesome scar, become amazing, and die horribly by the time the chapter ends. Nagito is a wild card and I really can't predict what direction he's going in or whose side he's really on.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:33
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Montegoraon posted:The mecha suit wasn't her idea, though. She just wanted Yamada to make a suit that would conceal a person's identity. It was his stupidity that introduced that particular flaw.
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Sep 25, 2013 02:34
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Luna Was Here posted:There's no way Togami is the mastermind, he's been seen both around Monomi and Monobear not operating any controls, plus they checked his pulse when his body was discovered. Dude was deader than dead. Oh they did check his pulse! 
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Sep 25, 2013 02:43
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Stoat posted:Oh they did check his pulse! But can you check a pulse through a fatsuit?
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Dr. Buttass posted:Whatever happened to the Transylvania Twist? And who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?
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Sep 25, 2013 03:21
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Stoat posted:Last night I was thinking about this and I think I've guessed the twist. I'm going to spoiler it because honestly I think I've got it right. Disclaimer: No I didn't go and check I'm not a dick Togami in a fat suit has been discussed to death from the second we saw Fatgami. There's no need to spoiler this. That said, it's also pretty unlikely. I think they'd notice it was a fatsuit after they caught him still breathing.
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Sep 25, 2013 03:45
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Who What Now posted:Togami in a fat suit has been discussed to death from the second we saw Fatgami. There's no need to spoiler this. That said, it's also pretty unlikely. I think they'd notice it was a fatsuit after they caught him still breathing. It was a really, really fat suit.
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Sep 25, 2013 03:46
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:It was a really, really fat suit. It was a mechanical fat suit that could emulate being dead perfectly.
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Sep 25, 2013 04:15
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Heliotrope posted:It was a mechanical fat suit that could emulate being dead perfectly. There must be a magical fat suit around this joke because it just won't die, either! 
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Sep 25, 2013 04:24
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hahahaha, fat suit. That's a classic crazy Dangan Ronpa theory. But seriously, the Togami of this game is dead. Whether or not that's the same person as the Togami from the first game is unknown. He could have been an impostor. As for the mastermind behind Monobear, yeah, I don't think it could be any of them. However, the same cannot be said of Monomi. It would make a lot of sense if someone in the group was either controlling Monomi, or collaborating with her. The "traitor" has to be someone that was not part of their class. If even Monobear doesn't know who it is, it means this person is not necessarily an antagonistic presence. My guess is it's either Togami (whether fake or real it would make sense), OR Hinata, because he doesn't know what his talent is, and they're not pulling the same twist twice. Hinata is not super lucky or super hopeful or super anything. Maybe he's not super at all. Perhaps Nagito believes he and Hinata are alike because neither of them really have an extraordinary talent.
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I hope the game ends where all the characters just die from the plague and the creators give the fans a big fat gently caress off because holy poo poo. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 25, 2013 05:08
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Austrian mook posted:I hope the game ends where all the characters just die from the plague and the creators give the fans a big fat gently caress off because holy poo poo. Oh please, this isn't a Cavia game.
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Sep 25, 2013 05:48
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Happy Landfill posted:Oh please, this isn't a Cavia game. You're right, Cavia has far fewer fans! And I'm one of them. 
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Sep 25, 2013 06:20
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Austrian mook posted:I hope the game ends where all the characters just die from the plague and the creators give the fans a big fat gently caress off because holy poo poo. Except Komaeda, Komaeda lives because having all of his friends die is the ultimate despair.
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Sep 25, 2013 06:26
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alcharagia posted:Except Komaeda, Komaeda lives because having all of his friends die is the ultimate despair. Honestly, I think it's just get him off.
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Sep 25, 2013 06:27
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Apparently Gundam Tanaka and Joseph Joestar from JJBA: ASB share the same VA and someone drew the following as a result. I'm not sure how many people who aren't Jojo's fans will find this funny but it amused me, at least: Original post.
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A Bystander posted:Apparently Gundam Tanaka and Joseph Joestar from JJBA: ASB share the same VA and someone drew the following as a result. I'm not sure how many people who aren't Jojo's fans will find this funny but it amused me, at least: Yes Sugita is the dood, and if in some wacky way they pull this off in the game that would be hilarious (wasn't this game released in the same time period as the "newer" Jojo anime actually?) on topic with the game I gotta say I'm feeling more and more like Nanami is going to live until the end, and also Ibuki. I'm getting some Oogamiish self-sacrifice vibes off of Nidai though, especially with how he was training Akane earlier in the chapter though I really can't think of how that would tie into a murder (unless he's a robot-traitor or something with all the lightning sparking off of him but that'd be silly now wouldn't it) Most of my hunches are based off of the last surviving cast of the first game, and despite them taking jabs at themselves for almost reusing the serial killer twist from DR1 I wouldn't be too odd for them to have some similarities in the surviving cast members.
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Bean posted:What about the timeline? I feel like we can definitively say that DR2 happens sometime after DR1, but is it like fifteen minutes or fifty years after? Another possibility is that they're occurring concurrently, and Naegi et all will pop out of the ruins after defeating their Monobear. Can you clarify why (assuming Togami is not the same Togami) this couldn't be happening before DR1? I don't think I've seen anything yet that absolutely proves that.
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Happy Landfill posted:Oh please, this isn't a Cavia game. Also, there's no children. Children always get hosed in a Cavia game. Often literally.
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zetsubous posted:Can you clarify why (assuming Togami is not the same Togami) this couldn't be happening before DR1? I don't think I've seen anything yet that absolutely proves that. I'm all for the theory of this happening at the same time. Actually when I saw the first playthrough of the game it always struck me as odd as there was only ONE class of super-high-school-level students when it was very obvious that it was a whole school of SHSL students. So it's highly possible that this is just ANOTHER class who have to go through the hope trial and junk. One of the many issues with this though is the similarities between Komaeda and our Protag buddy of DR1 Naegi and also Togami overlapping but him being the first killed kinda makes it like the "fake" Naegi was eliminating the contradictions (since he did actually state that he new this Togami would sacrifice himself to protect him) Also the fact that Naegi's SHSL skills were Hope and Good Luck match up with how Komaeda has both although his idea of hope is twisted to a SHSL as well haha... Also there's the issue of Junko piloting more than one Monokuma (AND if it's even her again which would be kind of a letdown so that's probably a huge no) although that doesn't seem to be a difficult feat considering some of the executions we've seen in both games.
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zetsubous posted:Can you clarify why (assuming Togami is not the same Togami) this couldn't be happening before DR1? I don't think I've seen anything yet that absolutely proves that. In the last update, Monobear says Nagito reminds him of Naegi, so they've already met each other. (Likely Monobear's already heard him say a bunch of stuff about hope over dispair too.)
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Ratoslov posted:Also, there's no children. Children always get hosed in a Cavia game. Often literally. Literally every single character in this game is a child.
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Bean posted:In the last update, Monobear says Nagito reminds him of Naegi, so they've already met each other. (Likely Monobear's already heard him say a bunch of stuff about hope over dispair too.) Also Monobear's statements regarding the reveal that one of the students is a serial killer, were basically "What, again?"
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A Bystander posted:Apparently Gundam Tanaka and Joseph Joestar from JJBA: ASB share the same VA and someone drew the following as a result. I'm not sure how many people who aren't Jojo's fans will find this funny but it amused me, at least: Wow, I literally just started watching JJBA last week, so it's kinda strange to see a message about it suddenly. But, in retrospect, they do sound pretty similar! I wonder if Gundam is supposed to be a parody of a JJBA character. He seems eccentric enough for it.
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I don't think he's really meant to be a parody of any character in specific - he just talks like cliche anime villains in general. He has as much in common with, say, Dio Brando, as he does Cell from DBZ.
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Gundam's actually a character archetype that's gained popularity in Japan over the past couple years called "Chuunibyou" (roughly "Eighth-Grader Syndrome"). Quoting Urban Dictinary:quote:A Japanese slang term which roughly translates to "Middle School 2nd Year Syndrome". People with chuunibyou either act like a know-it-all adult and look down on real ones, or believe they have special powers unlike others.
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CandyCrazy posted:Gundam's actually a character archetype that's gained popularity in Japan over the past couple years called "Chuunibyou" (roughly "Eighth-Grader Syndrome"). Quoting Urban Dictinary: Known in America as "Tumblr Syndrome."
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CandyCrazy posted:Gundam's actually a character archetype that's gained popularity in Japan over the past couple years called "Chuunibyou" (roughly "Eighth-Grader Syndrome"). Quoting Urban Dictinary: Cause if there is one thing the Internet needs more of, it is japanese words for rear end-hat.
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CandyCrazy posted:Gundam's actually a character archetype that's gained popularity in Japan over the past couple years called "Chuunibyou" (roughly "Eighth-Grader Syndrome"). Quoting Urban Dictinary: See also: http://www.adtrwiki.com/index.php?title=Chuunibyou_Demo_Koi_ga_Shitai!
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Bean posted:In the last update, Monobear says Nagito reminds him of Naegi, so they've already met each other. (Likely Monobear's already heard him say a bunch of stuff about hope over dispair too.) He doesn't actually say Naegi's name, though. He just says "him." Actually, I'm assuming the Japanese is "ano hito," which actually means "that person," but I also assume Oren knows what's coming well enough to know that there should be a male pronoun there. I'm not saying it's not likely to be Naegi, but I think we're doing ourselves a disservice if we treat that as actual fact.
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That still doesn't discredit the 'what, again' when Pekoyama tries to play serial killer. Those are his exact words. One possibility is that this takes place at around the same time as the first game, though. Syo's reveal happened in Chapter 2 as well.
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Endorph posted:That still doesn't discredit the 'what, again' when Pekoyama tries to play serial killer. Those are his exact words. That's one possibility I was entertaining: it's possible that DR1 just ended, like, five minutes after DR1's second trial or something, and DR2 isn't going on totally concurrently, but just askew. I have no idea how that makes Togami factor in, though. The simplest might be to just say that DR1's already ended, in that case.
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