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Possibly a little late, but:Kikka posted:I want to get into the Paradox games. Do you recommend Crusader Kings 2 or Europa Universalis IV? CK2 has been the better "gateway game" in my experience, because its focus on the nobility - with their individual quirks and foibles - gives the player something to relate to. Sure, it's fun to say "I took Dublin away from the Irish," but it's more fun, IMHO, to say "I took Dublin away from the jerk who tried getting the Pope to excommunicate me just because I slept with his wife and matrilineally married his son off to a Russian Countess." At any rate, I have had much less of a problem getting my friends interested in CK2 - hell, one friend tells me his seven-year old son loves the game too and will sit with his Dad and watch him play and ask questions about the various nobles all day. "Daddy, don't execute that prisoner, he's Humble and Kind, you should let him go so he can teach his King not to be so mean."
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 19:21 |
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PittTheElder posted:Indeed, your mercs really shouldn't count against your forcelimits. It doesn't make sense that your regular troops get exponentially more expensive because you hired a bunch of mercenaries. Think of your force limit as the amount of troops you can supply. Within the limit everything is fine, but as you get beyond the ready supply stuff gets more expensive due to demand outstripping supply and/or the additional costs of shipping it further.
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 19:25 |
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Alchenar posted:If I'm honest I'm a little disappointed with EU4 (starting with high expectations). It's a wonderful game and a step forwards in almost every way, but for the fact that it seems to be missing that little bit of narrative magic which gets me stories like 'that time in CK2 where my English king got the throne of France, then lost and all French lands when he died, but then a month later half the French dukes launched a rebellion in favour of his son and I got all of France back' or 'that time in VK2 when the crisis over Greek independence spiralled into a Great War where 10% of Germany's population died and communist rebels took over'. This remains my view on the difference between EU4 and CK2. They're both good. I haven't had a chance to play EU4 MP yet but I have every confidence that it's really fun (it's telling that all the EU4 previews were done with journalists being ushered in to play multiplayer sessions with each other). But CK2 remains the game that will drip feed you narrative hooks constantly to keep you engaged with what's going on, whereas the EU4 solo experience does tend to suffer from the age old 'all I'm doing is spreading my colour over the map' EU problem.
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 19:50 |
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maev posted:On the subject of national standing armies, I always found it amusing that cortez's expedition to mexico had a ton of italians, portugese, geonese and an African(!) in it. Reading books like Henry Kamen's 'Spain's road to empire' really highlights how much of a factor mercenaries were in 'national armies', and indeed the massive limitations on the state at every level until the 19th century.
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 20:05 |
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Mercs count against forcelimits? gently caress, this explains a lot.
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 21:59 |
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They sure do. It's what has made my attempts to form Russia as Novgorod so excruciating.
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# ? Sep 23, 2013 22:10 |
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The United Kingdom is the absolute worst ally in Victoria. Three wars with them called in while fighting no other wars and I saw almost nothing of their forces besides one tiny stack. Of course, when I'm fighting against them they swarm my provinces.
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# ? Sep 24, 2013 02:14 |
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They should probably only count partially towards the forcelimit, maybe half or so. The state still has to furnish supplies, but most is taken care of by the company itself. They still count towards supply limits, so it doesn't affect the mercs still having to forage.
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# ? Sep 24, 2013 02:30 |
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synertia posted:The United Kingdom is the absolute worst ally in Victoria. Three wars with them called in while fighting no other wars and I saw almost nothing of their forces besides one tiny stack. Of course, when I'm fighting against them they swarm my provinces. I believe HoD made them better at landing armies, but they suck at rebuilding their navy if it gets hosed up, which it usually does eventually. Really, it's kind of amazing how irrelevant GB can be outside of colonialism and spheres, considering it was basically the great power for most of Vicky's time period. Soylent Pudding posted:Mercs count against forcelimits? gently caress, this explains a lot. I wouldn't have minded in EU3 when I would savescum compulsively, but now that there's ironman it's very frustrating to not be able to win close wars with mercs. Ironman is brutal in general.
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I just finished my game as the Netherlands and ended up as Number 5 in the world. Not terrible for my first game of Victoria 2 but I really screwed the pooch on colonization. I'm planning on starting a new game as Sweden soon and have read a little about the strategy, but it seems at odds with each other. To form Scandinavia both Finland and Denmark are required. The best way to get Denmark is to sphere it requiring great power status while the easiest path to Finland is to increase tensions as a secondary power. Is there a best way to do this? I was planning on tech-ing culture while increasing tensions right off the bat to liberate Finland, hopefully war breaks out before I'm a great power and I can sphere Denmark, Finland becomes free and I have sphered Denmark allowing Scandinavia. Following that I want to race to colonial techs while keeping up with Culture for the prestige, demanding concessions from Morocco or another weak African nation to get a foothold, and then getting into colonization. It's so many moving parts, though, it's bound to fall apart. Is there a good solid path to take?
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# ? Sep 24, 2013 03:35 |
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Puella Magissima posted:I believe HoD made them better at landing armies, but they suck at rebuilding their navy if it gets hosed up, which it usually does eventually. Really, it's kind of amazing how irrelevant GB can be outside of colonialism and spheres, considering it was basically the great power for most of Vicky's time period. I think it may be time to add the Assume Military Control option from Hearts of Iron to other games...
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synertia posted:I just finished my game as the Netherlands and ended up as Number 5 in the world. Not terrible for my first game of Victoria 2 but I really screwed the pooch on colonization. IIRC, all you need to do as Sweden to form Scandinavia in vanilla is to sphere Denmark, no need to take your cores in Finland. It's way too easy.
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Puella Magissima posted:Really, it's kind of amazing how irrelevant GB can be outside of colonialism and spheres, considering it was basically the great power for most of Vicky's time period. IRL Britain tried to hem to its policy of "glorious isolation" towards the other powers pretty firmly 1815-1902 (when the Anglo-Japanese Alliance became the first real post-Napoleonic British long-term alliance with a Great Power). Even the Crimean War was more a joint "Hands off Turkey" effort by the British and French than a product of an actual alliance between the two.
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# ? Sep 24, 2013 04:54 |
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Preserving the balance of power while maintaining naval and economic supremacy abroad was pretty much Britain's deal. Sending a relatively small British expeditionary force somewhere on the continent is about as much as you should get, though probably with a bit less of the ineptitude.
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maev posted:Preserving the balance of power while maintaining naval and economic supremacy abroad was pretty much Britain's deal. Sending a relatively small British expeditionary force somewhere on the continent is about as much as you should get, though probably with a bit less of the ineptitude. I guess in real life the prospect of a blockade was enough to make it so that Britain never actually had to actually intervene to maintain the balance of power, the implied threat being enough. Vicky is a world where everyone knows GB is all bark and no bite and thus always calls their bluff, resulting in a Britain that does get in a lot of wars, but is rarely competent. The worst of both worlds. Still better than British Norway though. edit: It's always cool to see a picture you recognize from a Vicky event or decision. Magissima fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Sep 24, 2013 |
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I've been futzing around as Punjab trying to unite India, and Great Britain is my greatest foe. Really, the limp-wristed "Expeditionary force" Britain only applies if you're playing somewhere other than South Asia, because I just get hammered by Britain and their five million billion slave soldiers anytime I make an attempt on their lands. I even invented machine guns and poison gas before them, but they still keep coming and coming. Help.
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I'm trying to play HOI2:DD Armageddon on a windows 8, 64 bit machine and it looks like absolute horse poo poo. The graphics are fuzzy and dull, and the cursor and scrolling are jumpy. I tried playing around in compatibility mode but I couldn't find a solution. Is there a way to fix this?
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 13:09 |
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Did someone say official windowed support for EU4?
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:I'm trying to play HOI2:DD Armageddon on a windows 8, 64 bit machine and it looks like absolute horse poo poo. The graphics are fuzzy and dull, and the cursor and scrolling are jumpy. I tried playing around in compatibility mode but I couldn't find a solution. Is there a way to fix this? Yes, upgrade to Darkest Hour which has far better support for modern resolutions and in general is the best HOI2 build. The version of HOI2 you are playing came out in 2006. There have been a few patches since! Also if you're trying to play the Armageddon scenario don't bother, it's really badly written, has zero events and most of the world is impoverished and the economy will grind to a heart almost instantly. It was designed as a 'balanced' fantasy multiplayer scenario. Lum_ fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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PittTheElder posted:They sure do. It's what has made my attempts to form Russia as Novgorod so excruciating. Funnily enough, in my Great Britain game Novgorod formed the Republic of Russia all on its own, without any intervention on my part. This was pre-1.2, though. Lum_ posted:Yes, upgrade to Darkest Hour which has far better support for modern resolutions and in general is the best HOI2 build. The version of HOI2 you are playing came out in 2006. There have been a few patches since! That scenario always came across to me as a much stupider version of Kaiserreich.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 17:43 |
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March of the Eagles and Sengoku are available in the new Indie Royale bundle. Good deal if you want to round up your Paradox collection like I did. I know Sengoku is supposed to be mediocre, but are there any essential mods like Reign of the Ancients for Rome?
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Burning Rain posted:March of the Eagles and Sengoku are available in the new Indie Royale bundle. Good deal if you want to round up your Paradox collection like I did. I've never heard of any mods for Sengoku full-stop. I think Riso made a Japan mod for CK2, you might as well just play that instead.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 17:46 |
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Bishop Rodan posted:Funnily enough, in my Great Britain game Novgorod formed the Republic of Russia all on its own, without any intervention on my part. This was pre-1.2, though. I think I'm just going to need to start game after game, and pray that the Hordes actually attack Muscovy for once. At the moment, they're not doing that at all.
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PittTheElder posted:I think I'm just going to need to start game after game, and pray that the Hordes actually attack Muscovy for once. At the moment, they're not doing that at all. In most games I've seen, the hordes attack Muscovy in the most inefficient ways possible. Whenever they form grand alliances like Crimea-Kazan-Nogai, they just end up going after Georgia, the Golden Horde and Timurids, and maybe once their manpower is spent, a token assault on Muscovy. I almost think the AI weighing for hordes should prioritize wars against non-hordes, rather than using their entire alliance's force on raiding other nomads, just to encourage wars with Muscovy. In my sister's Novgorod game, she has managed to deal a fatal blow to Muscovy and is now taking Moskva, mostly through an alliance with Denmark and a timely invasion of Muscovy during a Muscovite invasion of Kazan. Then just play it safe until the Scandinavians arrive and you team up to crump the Muscovites.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 19:50 |
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Alchenar posted:Did someone say official windowed support for EU4? Not only is there now official windowed support, but borderless windowed as well!
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Not only is there now official windowed support, but borderless windowed as well! Now all we need is an official Mac launcher
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:01 |
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Burning Rain posted:March of the Eagles and Sengoku are available in the new Indie Royale bundle. Good deal if you want to round up your Paradox collection like I did. You could try this mod to make it a bit less boring.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:41 |
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DrProsek posted:In most games I've seen, the hordes attack Muscovy in the most inefficient ways possible. Whenever they form grand alliances like Crimea-Kazan-Nogai, they just end up going after Georgia, the Golden Horde and Timurids, and maybe once their manpower is spent, a token assault on Muscovy. I almost think the AI weighing for hordes should prioritize wars against non-hordes, rather than using their entire alliance's force on raiding other nomads, just to encourage wars with Muscovy. How did she get Denmark to actually help her? I've tried having alliances with both Poland and Denmark (either of whom are a match for Muscovy thanks to their PU minors, but don't seem to know that), and neither of them has ever honored it.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:46 |
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I want that multi-volume history.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:54 |
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Patter Song posted:
The article on the bottom right is the best
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 00:03 |
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Kersch posted:The article on the bottom right is the best Yeah. I'm working on a V2: Jan Mayen LP and that image is from my testrun. Playing the real run now.
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Kersch posted:The article on the bottom right is the best It borders on avatar quality material.
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Lum_ posted:Yes, upgrade to Darkest Hour which has far better support for modern resolutions and in general is the best HOI2 build. The version of HOI2 you are playing came out in 2006. There have been a few patches since! Darkest Hour it is, thanks! Is there any word on Paradox attempting a HOI4, or has HOI3 killed the franchise off forever?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 00:41 |
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Don't be too harsh on HoI3, it has Middlesbrough as a province in England. Boro representation, in a game? Deserves at least 1 extra star.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 00:44 |
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:has HOI3 killed the franchise off forever? IIRC, HOI3 is the bestselling Paradox developed game ever, so nope.
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maev posted:Don't be too harsh on HoI3, it has Middlesbrough as a province in England. Boro representation, in a game? Deserves at least 1 extra star. I never played HOI3, to be honest. I just saw what a train wreck the launch was (even for a Paradox game) and gladly went on playing HOI2 for a bit before forgetting about Paradox games in general. I bought CKII during the steam sale. It's a ton of fun, but I've got the itch to turn America into a socialist paradise, bring the glorious worker's revolution to the rest of the Western Hemisphere, and then crush those thuggish Fascists and those back stabbing Stalinists. You just can't do that in CKII.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 00:59 |
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Its actually really fun! No other game lets you sperg out so much about national OOBs.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:01 |
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PittTheElder posted:How did she get Denmark to actually help her? I've tried having alliances with both Poland and Denmark (either of whom are a match for Muscovy thanks to their PU minors, but don't seem to know that), and neither of them has ever honored it. Sadly I have no idea. All that she did that I noticed was continuing to boost relations with Denmark, Sweden and Norway after they were already in her alliance but I don't think that had much of an impact. Might have just been dumb luck .
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Baloogan posted:Its actually really fun! No other game lets you sperg out so much about national OOBs. I just bought Darkest Hour and I'm sure this will tide me over for a while. Next time HOI3 and Semper Fi are on sale I'll look into getting them.
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Baloogan posted:Its actually really fun! No other game lets you sperg out so much about national OOBs. Back when Doomsday came out, I joined the chorus on the paradox forums demanding something similar to the division system they ended up putting in HoI3, and it turned out to be poorly executed from both a historical and gameplay standpoint. I'm kind of torn over what I want HoI4 to be. On the one hand, micromanagement hell. On the other hand, Italian binary divisions .
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