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Party Plane Jones posted:The armored cars really give you jack poo poo, 4k is a bit of an insult. It's 4k-8k which is quite a bit when just starting out. And probably will be quite in a bit in GTAO where the stock market can't be gamed with assassination missions.
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MrFlibble posted:Speaking of which hoe many heists are there where you can actually improve the skills of your crew? all Heist spoilers In the first heist I lost the cheap gunman doing the smart route and I was only able to hire a hacker on two heists (including the final one). If I started again I'd want to level the cheap guys for a huge take on the final heist, but only levelling a hacker once will probably not hack it, same with gunmen/drivers Just mentioned in my post above, In the fifth Heist, if you choose the Ninja Skills route, you can use a gunman, hacker, and driver (the fire men route makes you take only 2 gunman). This lets you level that 4% take hacker guy a total of 2 times before your big heist. I don't think you can successfully take a low level gunman to heists and have him survive, so I always choose to take that one you get from the random world event: Packie Raimondo fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Anyone know which properties open up new missions, and which ones just throw money at you occasionally? I'm not really interested in becoming land baron of the year, but if there's some awesome missions I might miss out on I'd like to check that out. Also, since I feel bad for constantly making GBS threads on the game's flaws, I just have to point out that the soundtrack is friggin' epic. It is an embarrassment of riches, top to bottom. This makes me sound like an old fogey, but I had no idea that "indietronica" or "chillwave" were actual genres - but holy hell is Mirror Park great.
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Raimondi posted:Just mentioned in my post above, In the FIB Heist, if you choose the Ninja Skills route, you can use a gunman, hacker, and driver (the fire men route makes you take only 2 gunman). This lets you level that 4% take hacker guy a total of 2 times before your big heist. I don't think you can successfully take a low level gunman to heists and have him survive, so I always choose to take that one you get from the random world event: Packie You can take a lovely gunman to approach B of the fifth heist, the FIB building, and he'll make it through if he doesn't take much enemy fire (easy if you're killing dudes quickly and have Franklin or Michael out in front). That's the only situation I've seen where a cheap gunman lives without a scripted sequence killing him, although I haven't played the firefighter method yet. I'm prepping for the last heist so we'll see if the slightly improved Michael Townley fan Norm Richards gets through it without loving it up.
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Sep 25, 2013 21:42
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Narcissus1916 posted:Anyone know which properties open up new missions, and which ones just throw money at you occasionally? I'm not really interested in becoming land baron of the year, but if there's some awesome missions I might miss out on I'd like to check that out. I haven't bought everything yet but I've gotten quests from the pot store, the taxi depot, and the scrapyard, so far. Nothing really out of the ordinary mission-wise, just some radiant fetch or kill missions. They also don't give you money or increase the value of your business in any way, so there's not much to be gained from them besides passing the time. Edit: Completely forgot about Trevor's airfield and Michael's Sonar Marina (or whatever it's called). First one gets you a series of airplane and off-road delivery missions, second one gets you two more collectibles quests. Hobo Clown fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Sep 25, 2013 21:49
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Man, I wonder if that Deathmatch Content Creator will be robust enough to recreate the 'OJ Simpson' mode we would play on my old Multi-Theft Auto server way back where everyone on the server would chase a single dude(no shooting) and he would try to avoid them for a set amount of time.
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Sep 25, 2013 21:57
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Raimondi posted:Just mentioned in my post above, In the fifth Heist, if you choose the Ninja Skills route, you can use a gunman, hacker, and driver (the fire men route makes you take only 2 gunman). This lets you level that 4% take hacker guy a total of 2 times before your big heist. I don't think you can successfully take a low level gunman to heists and have him survive, so I always choose to take that one you get from the random world event: Packie I think Chef is cheaper by a couple percent actually as a gunman, he was 12% in my game.
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Obsurveyor posted:Man, I wonder if that Deathmatch Content Creator will be robust enough to recreate the 'OJ Simpson' mode we would play on my old Multi-Theft Auto server way back where everyone on the server would chase a single dude(no shooting) and he would try to avoid them for a set amount of time. 5-15 Big Rigs/Dump trucks/Fire trucks/etc. 
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Sep 25, 2013 22:02
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Is the hitchhiker girl in the random event someone you can eventually recruit for heists? I remember there mentions of something like this, but I'm not sure if she is the right one.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:05
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Is the hitchhiker girl in the random event someone you can eventually recruit for heists? I remember there mentions of something like this, but I'm not sure if she is the right one. There is an injured girl that you pickup that, yes, you can use. The other hitchhiker to Vinewood sign is not.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Is the hitchhiker girl in the random event someone you can eventually recruit for heists? I remember there mentions of something like this, but I'm not sure if she is the right one. No, the random event for the driver is up near paleto bay. I'm not sure if she spawns for everyone, but someone mentioned encountering her with Trevor and I found her with Franklin. She's in a crashed car in the middle of the highway and you have to give her a ride back to her safehouse before she dies.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:07
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http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/25/rockstar-confirms-gta-online-micro-transactions-outlines-launch/ Uh oh. Micro-transactions ahoy!
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Behonkiss posted:http://www.joystiq.com/2013/09/25/rockstar-confirms-gta-online-micro-transactions-outlines-launch/ quote:Rockstar clarifies that "you don't have to spend real money to attain the cars, guns, clothes, flash and style of a high-roller in Los Santos, but can if you wish to get them a little quicker.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:10
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They also clarified that everything is cheaper in GTA:O and you earn money much faster than in SP
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Sep 25, 2013 22:11
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Side mission spoilers: I finished the car gathering quest for the epsilon cult, but it won't move on. I have probably slept and played around 20 in game days since i completed it and still nothing.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:11
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Hm, this hitchhiker was up near Mt. Chiliad, guess she's not the right one.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:14
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Athanatos posted:There is an injured girl that you pickup that, yes, you can use. This reminds me, why don't these NPCs we find on the street want to ride a motorcycle? I've met two who asked me for rides but balk at the idea of getting on a motorcycle.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:15
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Is there a list or guide anywhere at this point detailing how to unlock additional heist members via side missions?
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Sep 25, 2013 22:17
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There's lots of hitchhikers I think, seems a common random event. You should always pick them up with Trevor, and never take them where they want to go.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:19
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Stux posted:Side mission spoilers: I finished the car gathering quest for the epsilon cult, but it won't move on. I have probably slept and played around 20 in game days since i completed it and still nothing. Stop sleeping and run around for a while.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:20
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Behonkiss posted:Is there a list or guide anywhere at this point detailing how to unlock additional heist members via side missions? There are two of them in the entire game. The getaway driver who crashes on the northeast highway, and Packie who you act as a getaway driver for as Franklin. Other than that, there are no additional members except the ones who get added from the story.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:21
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Crappy Jack posted:There are two of them in the entire game. The getaway driver who crashes on the northeast highway, and Packie who you act as a getaway driver for as Franklin. Other than that, there are no additional members except the ones who get added from the story. You can help Packie with any of the characters, it doesn't have to be Franklin. I picked him up as Michael.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:25
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Crappy Jack posted:There are two of them in the entire game. The getaway driver who crashes on the northeast highway, and Packie who you act as a getaway driver for as Franklin. Other than that, there are no additional members except the ones who get added from the story. Really?! Only two?? in the whole game? I just got the driver last night and was really hoping I had more to find... that's fairly disappointing.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:31
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VarXX posted:They also clarified that everything is cheaper in GTA:O and you earn money much faster than in SP We'll see how it pans out at launch (income is likely to be semi-slow until they release the online heist missions), but I have a hunch it'll be a repeat of what we saw with Dead Space 3. Sure, you CAN buy your way ahead, but there is never ever sane reason to unless you absolutely must have everything unlocked all at once as soon as humanly possible.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:34
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I was driving up by the prison and saw a random event start I pulled up the dirt road and sure enough, the guy pulled a gun on me and took my car. While running around looking for another car I saw a bunch of prison guard looking folk searching around. I'm pretty sure it was a prison break I never heard anything about it on the radio though. In hindsight I should have seen it coming.
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Stux posted:Side mission spoilers: I finished the car gathering quest for the epsilon cult, but it won't move on. I have probably slept and played around 20 in game days since i completed it and still nothing. http://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/200299446-Epsilon-mission-not-proceeding-when-delivering-5-cars-in-GTA-V
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Chard posted:Really?! Only two?? in the whole game? I just got the driver last night and was really hoping I had more to find... that's fairly disappointing. Regarding heists, just about everything about the system is disappointing. There's only two optional recruits you can stumble across in the entire game, and your team choices are already limited enough that missions come down to basically picking the Good One or the Cheap One. Then there's the fact that there are only two heists in the entire game that offer any sort of decent payout. For such a highly touted feature, they sure blew it, at least in my opinion. I expected to be running jobs and building an empire, picking up recruits as I went and forming a highly trained team of professional robbers. Instead you spend the entire game going on errands for douchebags and getting dicked around just like every other GTA game.
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Crappy Jack posted:Regarding heists, just about everything about the system is disappointing. There's only two optional recruits you can stumble across in the entire game, and your team choices are already limited enough that missions come down to basically picking the Good One or the Cheap One. Then there's the fact that there are only two heists in the entire game that offer any sort of decent payout. For such a highly touted feature, they sure blew it, at least in my opinion. I expected to be running jobs and building an empire, picking up recruits as I went and forming a highly trained team of professional robbers. Instead you spend the entire game going on errands for douchebags and getting dicked around just like every other GTA game. Your last point is the greatest shame of this otherwise great game. The potential was there for an amazing experience but somehow they rope in the same poo poo that everyone has hated about other GTAs being indebted to some jerkass and having to spend more than half he game as an errand running bitch. This game should have been about Michael, Franklin and Trevor building up a crew and doing job after job instead of "hey the FIB is going to have you run around 75% of the time
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Sep 25, 2013 22:41
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I mean... I'm not regretful that I bought the game, I was just hoping for so much more  I guess GTAO will have to fill that void.
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And here I thought the heists were the absolute high-point of the game by a pretty wide margin. I really didn't mind the payouts not being regular, because I thought it legitimately worked as a story element. Money isn't everything, anyway.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:43
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I can't wait for GTAO because all it will be is just overly planned heists with friends and it will be awesome. Speaking of which, the third (I think) heist has got to be the coolest one I've done so far. They get that really great cinematic touch that I can't get out of Payday 2 whereas Payday 2 I get that difficulty and payoff. I also think the game is actually ramping up in visuals. The cutscenes are getting better looking and the mornings and nights are looking crisper. Spoilers, 60% up Michael goes back to the intro level. Those cutscenes and the opening area just look gorgeous. I hope there's DLC that opens up that area for GTAO or for a standalone story before the events of GTA 5. I'm in love with how this game looks. I want this on PC so bad.
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Dominic White posted:And here I thought the heists were the absolute high-point of the game by a pretty wide margin. I really didn't mind the payouts not being regular, because I thought it legitimately worked as a story element. Money isn't everything, anyway. They were the high point, thats why its so disappointing there are so few of them and you have almost no control over them. I think most people wanted to be planning heists of their own for their own payoff, not for the FIB.
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The Duggler posted:Your last point is the greatest shame of this otherwise great game. The potential was there for an amazing experience but somehow they rope in the same poo poo that everyone has hated about other GTAs being indebted to some jerkass and having to spend more than half he game as an errand running bitch. This game should have been about Michael, Franklin and Trevor building up a crew and doing job after job instead of "hey the FIB is going to have you run around 75% of the time Yeah, it's kind of a bummer, and I figured they'd learned their lesson given the convo that Lamar and Franklin have at the beginning of the game.
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Dominic White posted:And here I thought the heists were the absolute high-point of the game by a pretty wide margin. I really didn't mind the payouts not being regular, because I thought it legitimately worked as a story element. Money isn't everything, anyway. Oh, no, they're absolutely fun, it's just I'm really tired of the GTA plot where some powerful rear end in a top hat makes you do stuff for the whole game and then you get mad and shoot them and win. They even have that early Franklin mission that puts a lampshade on the GTA Plot, making me think they learned their lesson and were going to be doing something else where I'm playing a trio of highly motivated and proactive bank robbers who pull off increasingly daring scores for huge payoffs. Yes, it works as a story element. But I'd already seen that story element. I'm tired of it. I want a new story element.
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The Duggler posted:Your last point is the greatest shame of this otherwise great game. The potential was there for an amazing experience but somehow they rope in the same poo poo that everyone has hated about other GTAs being indebted to some jerkass and having to spend more than half he game as an errand running bitch. This game should have been about Michael, Franklin and Trevor building up a crew and doing job after job instead of "hey the FIB is going to have you run around 75% of the time Yeah, I've been in denial about it, but now that I've finished the game, you're right  . I was really psyched that heists were going to be the focus of the game, and was expecting exactly what you were describing, a series of increasingly daring heists, which result in you getting wealthier and more prominent, with some big massive cool thing at the end. The first heist gave you such a taste of this; the multi-million dollar payout (subtracting Martin's reconstruction fee, but still), the planning, the crew selection, the super expensive property that unlocks afterward that makes you think "eventually I'll be able to afford this $150,000,000 golf course, I can't wait," and so on...and instead we got what we got. The game is still really fun, mind; the heists are generally tense and fun to play, all that's missing is an actual payout from most of them. It's disappointing and falls short of what it could and should have been, but what we got is still fun in its own right. I just expected it to be more.
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It would be cool if the FIB didn't come in until like, the leadup to the last heist of the game and were all "Michael you owe me some favors and I hear your crew is the best around!" and then made it look like they were following the FIB plan but pulled some Ocean's 11 poo poo and twisted it around in some clever way such that they actually did their own heist or something Would be a lot more satisfying
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Narcissus1916 posted:I think I've played a good quarter of the main story and I just have to say - You are a bad.
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Sep 25, 2013 22:51
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I really hate the property missions. Every time Smoke on the Water goes like "Yo Franklin someone jacked our van!" I go to the waypoint, get the objective "Get the van" without anything showing up on the minimap and nothing in sight, despite being on something impossible to hide in like a cliff road and then two seconds later get a text from the property going "Lot of unhappy stoners here man!" and the mission is a complete wash. What the gently caress am I doing wrong? Also, the combat system is pretty amazing and fun, especially when you get the multiple avenues of attack that have you switch between characters to defend.
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I halfway suspect that the heists almost never paying out is a deliberate storytelling device in a crime doesn't pay vein but that doesn't work in a game like GTA because that's the entire loving point of what I'm doing with my character. That being said, as long as I can dock an online crew member some dollas for not getting clean shots and watching their background I'll still be well-satisfied.
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