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Asgerd posted:Of course not, the fanfic in question is so prolific it has a page of its own!
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Spalec posted:At least they actually call him a pedophile and don't try any of this 'Ephebophilia' bullshit they'd normally do. Going out of their way to make Humbert seem like not such an evil guy is just as bad.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 20:18 |
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Spalec posted:At least they actually call him a pedophile and don't try any of this 'Ephebophilia' bullshit they'd normally do. Not entirely to their credit: Nabokov is ornate but he's also precise: quote:In fact, I would have the reader see 'nine' and 'fourteen' as the boundaries - the mirrory beaches and rosy rocks - of an enchanted island haunted by those nymphets of mine and surrounded by a vast, misty sea ... Furthermore, since the idea of time plays such a magic part in the matter, the student should not be surprised to learn that there must be a gap of several years, never less than ten I should say, generally thirty or forty, and as many as ninety in a few known cases, between maiden and man to enable the latter to come under a nymphet's spell. Even a troper would have a hard time equivocating a man molesting a nine-year-old. (Please tell me this is true.)
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 20:41 |
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Apple Tree posted:Even a troper would have a hard time equivocating a man molesting a nine-year-old. (Please tell me this is true.)
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:15 |
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That sure is some pretty talk about a grown man wanting to have inappropriate sexual relations with an underage girl. I especially like how the blame is shifted to the girl as she casts her "spell" so the decent man is powerless and absolved of wrong-doing.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:21 |
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oldpainless posted:That sure is some pretty talk about a grown man wanting to have inappropriate sexual relations with an underage girl. I especially like how the blame is shifted to the girl as she casts her "spell" so the decent man is powerless and absolved of wrong-doing. That is the point. Humbert is a monster, but he's also the narrator, so he tries to paint himself as the victim/a good guy, even as he outright refers to some of his actions as rape if I recall correctly. This is unfortunately too subtle for people and you get things like the review calling the book a "love story" and, well, all the people contributing to that TVT page. Guy ruins at least three lives and creeps like those idolize and defend him.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:26 |
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Apple Tree posted:Even a troper would have a hard time equivocating a man molesting a nine-year-old. (Please tell me this is true.) Ha ha ha ha ha Headscratchers/Lolita posted:Im confuse, only watching the movies, did Lolita seduce H.H. or was that just in his head? "Well, on the one hand, he's a lying pedophile, but on the other hand, Lo always did seem like a slut. Teach the controversy!" Let's click on the Analysis tab and see what that page has to say! Analysis/Lolita posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/Lolita.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:27 |
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oldpainless posted:That sure is some pretty talk about a grown man wanting to have inappropriate sexual relations with an underage girl. I especially like how the blame is shifted to the girl as she casts her "spell" so the decent man is powerless and absolved of wrong-doing. Congratulations! You get Lolita! ^e;fb
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:27 |
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Roland Jones posted:That is the point. DStecks posted:Congratulations! You get Lolita! I know thats the point. I suppose I should have been more clear.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:31 |
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Oh, were we talking about Nightmare Fuel? How about Cookie Clicker? The difference between TvTropes and the games thread we have here is that there is at least one (read: all) troper who thinks that this time waster is genuinely horrifying.Terrified Tropers posted:As you earn achievements, the pool of milk turns brown (chocolate), and then... red. It's supposed to be "rapsberry milk," an Author Appeal substance that most players have never heard of. Instead, you're likely to think it's a huge pool of blood. The fact that it turns red around the time you hit the Grandmapocalypse doesn't help. Raspberry milk looks like blood you guys! This is totally a horror game! I've actually tried Raspberry Milk. It's loving delicious. Of course tropers would be frightened by it.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:32 |
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oldpainless posted:That sure is some pretty talk about a grown man wanting to have inappropriate sexual relations with an underage girl. I especially like how the blame is shifted to the girl as she casts her "spell" so the decent man is powerless and absolved of wrong-doing. Like Roland said. It's one of those things where even the way the story is presented has to be viewed as Humbert equivocating his beliefs. You're almost supposed to buy into his poo poo while reading the novel. He's supposed to come off as making a good case for his "relationship" and how Delores is a sexy little seductress. The line "The hotel where you raped me." is supposed to discard all the subtlety and sick word games and show you exactly what Humbert is. It's when the reader realizes that they're with all of the guy's other relationships in that he's used a one sided conversation to lead you into being complacent with a complete monster. It's why Lolita is referred to as a book you read twice. Because after that turn you can go back and see Humbert being the smooth fucker that he always was but now you've seen the backstage area of the magic show and can discern his manipulative bullshit for what it is.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:34 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:
They sort of do seem to acknowledge that Humbert misrepresents things: quote:Insistent Terminology: Humbert is not attracted to children, but nymphets. It's made abundantly clear that the distinction exists only within his own head. ...But then that links to this: quote:Insistent Terminology (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsistentTerminology) I have read that paragraph about five times and I still don't understand what it means. They also go with 'reading twice': quote:This is a book you need to read twice, just to appreciate how horribly screwed up everybody is. And we mean everybody. As Nabokov noted in his afterword, one publisher rejected the manuscript on the grounds that Lolita had no good people in it. Thanks to the Unreliable Narrator, however, the extent of just how screwed up they are is not immediately apparent. Though I'd say you don't need to read it twice to get that Humbert Humbert is an unreliable narrator: loving children is bad, this is pretty much a given, and a narrator who argues otherwise should put any sensible reader on their guard. And also that saying 'everyone is horribly screwed up' is really missing the point of an unreliable narrator - especially one who has absolutely no interest in most of the people he meets. It rewards multiple readings because it's a beautifully written book, but multiple readings don't seem to have helped that troper very much. Probably also this is a page that's unusually careful by TVTropes standards; given that there was much argument over it and it's their flagship for 'Not pedophiles, just commentators' presentation, we should probably view this as their storefront in terms of quality. Which doesn't say much for them.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:54 |
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Razorwired posted:Like Roland said. It's one of those things where even the way the story is presented has to be viewed as Humbert equivocating his beliefs. You're almost supposed to buy into his poo poo while reading the novel. He's supposed to come off as making a good case for his "relationship" and how Delores is a sexy little seductress. The line "The hotel where you raped me." is supposed to discard all the subtlety and sick word games and show you exactly what Humbert is. It's when the reader realizes that they're with all of the guy's other relationships in that he's used a one sided conversation to lead you into being complacent with a complete monster. It's why Lolita is referred to as a book you read twice. Because after that turn you can go back and see Humbert being the smooth fucker that he always was but now you've seen the backstage area of the magic show and can discern his manipulative bullshit for what it is. It's not even just that line; there are lines that serve that role constantly throughout the book. You'll get a few pages of Humbert describing his idyllic life with Dolores, followed by "oh by the way she cried herself to sleep every night". Nabokov includes such regular reminders that Humbert is a total scumbag that even without a second read you still can't possibly come away from the book with "Lolita was such a whore" unless you're a pedophile yourself. Naturally, tropers notice that he's persuasive, but they don't figure out that he's just an eloquent monster doing his best to make himself look good; instead they say he's Affably Evil Anti-Villain, and his actions are excusable because in an audiobook he's voiced by JEREMY IRONS Since Lolita didn't have an Analysis page, I have to wonder: what does? Let's have a look. Analysis: My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic S1 E14: Suited For Success posted:Satire, Intertextuality and Self-Reference in "Suited for Success" Analysis: Hamlet posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/Hamlet. We do, however have: Analysis: Evony posted:Ad Campaign Analysis: War and Peace posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/WarAndPeace. Analysis: The Legend of Zelda posted:Series Chronology Analysis: One Hundred Years of Solitude posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/OneHundredYearsOfSolitude. Analysis: Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS posted:Anyways, I suppose the point of this long rambling discussion is to say this: Elite mages are really powerful. But they're not invincible, nor is the series an excercise in class warfare (Nanoha lives in a fracking townhouse). With the benefit of excellent training, surprise, and other firepower multipliers, they can accomplish amazing things - in that way, they are somewhat like knights (although in methodology they're a bit more like commandos). And yes, they *could* be overwhelmed by a handful of guys weilding mass weapons. But they could also be overwhelmed by a handful of lesser mages as well - it's not an issue of 'mass weapons mean the rich guys can get hurt', and that doesn't make them worthless. A Nimitz' class aircraft carrier, centerpiece of the USN, is an overwhelming advantage on the battlefield, but it costs something like 6.2 billion dollars, without even counting the planes. A $3,800,000 torpedo can snap it half. A main battle tank costs something in the area of 6,500,000, yet can be destroyed by a $85,000 missile. This does not make them worthless or obsolete. It's not quite like that, anyways: you need heavy weapons to efficiently take down high-level mages, and to actually match them... you basically need Mobile Infantry power armor, only better. Magic has its advantages - it burns through nonliving matter like paper, yet can be made (or simply is) nonlethal - very nice for counterinsurgency/police operations (imagine if every weapon in the US Army had a less lethal option). It requires minimal supply, and has the ability to produce effects that would... difficult... with conventional weapons system. A barrier jacket provides defenses normally associated with heavy armored vehicles... while looking like street clothing (or it could anyways)). It turns normal humans into reflex-boosted flying super-strong leviathans. Which reminds me: don't forget that mages aren't just dumb hunks of firepower and barriers. So you've got a bunch of guys in cover, waiting to ambush a mage with their AT weapons. Okay. What's to prevent the mage from detecting them on searchers, or with the remote probes that they can summon (if they know where to ambush, the mage knows where to scout) - or just spotting them (the mage is likely better trained at spotting ambushes than they are concealing themselves) before/as they reveal themselves, and then flying the hell out of dodge at Mach 3? Followed, of course, by saturating the area with long range burst spells - they can't exactly use civilians as cover... because magic is less-lethal. Alternatively, what's to prevent a bunch of D-rank mages waiting in hiding to ambush a high-level mage with a dozen bombardment attacks from every direction? (Besides... you know. All the things I just mentioned). Or better yet, what's to prevent a group of modestly trained mages (C/B rank (or heck, just a few such mages out of a larger group) from lying in wait, concealed by illusion spells, until their target approaches - at which time they throw a couple quick binds at them, to prevent them from running away just long enough to get hit by the aforementioned dozen some bombardment spells. (Several things, no doubt, but it's better than the original plan). I think the real issue is simply lethality. Magic has a integral less-lethal option and/or requirement (sometimes its suggested that only certain things are less-lethal... but if so, apparently everyone uses it. Most other types of weapons do not, and almost certainly not in a 'high power' form. With magic, you can have an effect that burns through a tank's armor and knocks out the crew inside. That's hard to do with a HEAT warhead/railgun/laser/whatever. Banning the more ridiculous WMD (think 'planet collapsing Imaginary Path bombs' or 'interdimensional RKK Vs') was also a concern, but not the only one... honestly, the reasons Fate gives seem a little silly. An Arc-En-Ciel, after all, is fired by the turn of a key, and 'obliterates everything within 100 kilometers' (for reference, the Tsar Bomba, the biggest nuclear weapon ever detonated, had a 'total destruction' blast radius of 25 kilometers.) This was from a weapon mounted on a police ship. Analysis: The Odyssey posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/TheOdyssey.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 22:03 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:
Tropers hate and fear all that is good.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 22:41 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Since Lolita didn't have an Analysis page, I have to wonder: what does? Let's have a look. And since I'm not about to read any of that, I have to ask: is it actual analysis of this trivial nerd bullshit or just empty sperging out? Like I don't know the loving answer.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 22:50 |
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It's funny how, though you'd expect it to be from TVTropes, it was on FandomSecrets that I saw the most mind-boggling wrong sentence in the English language: "I thought Lolita was sexy."
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 22:53 |
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I like how the analysis section for that anime is basically sperging about power levels. The internet truly never changes.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:10 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:And since I'm not about to read any of that, I have to ask: is it actual analysis of this trivial nerd bullshit or just empty sperging out? The Evony analysis is literally "Its ads claim that it is the best game ever. However, it does not include academic citations proving that it is the best game ever. Furthermore, there are many games in existence, so this particular one is unlikely to be the best game ever." The Zelda analysis is sperging about canon timelines. The Magical Girl Something Bullshit analysis looks like sperging about weapon ranges or something, my eyes instinctively slide off the page when I look at it. The MLP analysis on that particular page was astonishingly not that awful outside of the core premise of being an analysis of a single episode of a cartoon pony show for little girls - not brilliant, and still dumb for analyzing the depth of a single pony episode while leaving so many great works of literature untouched, but not terrible enough in content to be worth mocking, which is part of why I snipped it. A look at the numerous other pony analysis pages (including two for pony rape fanfics) shows that I stumbled upon the least bad one because the rest are just horrid. Analysis: Magic: The Gathering posted:[snipped: 14000 words of sperging about nothing but the distinctions between the five card colors] Analysis: The Color Purple posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/TheColorPurple. Analysis: Super Paper Mario posted:This is a work in progress. Adding to it and editing it would be appreciated! Analysis: The Jungle posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/TheJungle. Analysis: Accidental Pornomancer posted:As stated on the Main Page, this trope is what happens when the writer tries to blend a Nice Guy and/or Innocent Fanservice Girl with The Pornomancer and/or Slut in order to avoid the negative connotations of the latter two. People who have a lot of sex are typically portrayed in fiction as unchaste or villainous, and it's usually par for the course for heroic characters to treat sex seriously and carefully. Modern characters who have a lot of sex are usually Plucky Comic Relief, or their promiscuity is treated as a Character Flaw that runs contrary to being with their One True Love. In modern times, your average Chick Magnet or Dude Magnet is likely to be clueless to preserve their Nice Guy image. Analysis: Candide posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/Candide.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:12 |
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I actually started to skim that "Accidental Pornomancer" thing for a second because it had such a bizarre title and ran into this lovely little gem:posted:The Accidental Pornomancer trope was much more prominent in older societies, which had different laws and opinions about sex and "rape".
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:43 |
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I was gonna ask why rape was in scarequotes but once I thought about it I knew exactly why.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 23:49 |
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quote:Double Standard Rape Divine On Mortal was exceptionally common as well; after all, it's "not their fault" if they're so hot that even a god wants them. I'm pretty sure this one sentence, and the not-even-hidden implications thereof, is .txt
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 00:54 |
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Thinky Whale posted:It's funny how, though you'd expect it to be from TVTropes, it was on FandomSecrets that I saw the most mind-boggling wrong sentence in the English language: I love Lolita. Not only is it one of the greatest novels ever written in the English language, but it's also the perfect litmus test of a terrible person.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 01:04 |
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Who wants their brains to leak out of their ears from sheer boredom? All of you? Okay! TVTropes just came up with a podcast version of their site! http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WikiSandbox/OTT It's up to 16 episodes. Penny Paper fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Sep 26, 2013 |
# ? Sep 26, 2013 04:26 |
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Was listening to ELO while reading this thread so I decided to see what they had. quote:Last Note Nightmare: Horace Wimp...Horace Wimp...Horace Wimp... quote:Nightmare Fuel: "Fire On High", at least until the guitar comes in. I never knew MR. BLUE SKY was so scary.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 04:39 |
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Gee, tropers seem awfully adverse to runout tracks. I'll bet they poo poo themselves every time they hear the end of "A Day In The Life". Fake Edit: yep. They don't even make it to the end. Nightmare Fuel/The Beatles posted:Two instances on "A Day in the Life": The deranged string crescendo, which qualifies as a Middle Note Nightmare, and the creepy looping voices at the very, very end of the song, which qualify as a "secret" Last Note Nightmare. Judging by the full page, you'd think the Beatles were some sort of horror/goth group. I'll give them "Long Long Long" though, the last bit of that song was a little creepy when I listened to it at 3am that one time.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 08:03 |
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I wondered how they felt about stories that lend themselves to when it came to the classics. Here's what I got when I tried 'Pamela':quote:We don't have an article named Literature/Pamela. If you want to start this new page, just click the edit button above. I was going to look at more, but I think that screen shot says it all. quote:Naturally, tropers notice that he's persuasive, but they don't figure out that he's just an eloquent monster doing his best to make himself look good; instead they say he's Affably Evil Anti-Villain, and his actions are excusable because in an audiobook he's voiced by JEREMY IRONS He gives an excellent performance, too. And it's actually appropriate to cast an actor with a pleasant voice, and not just because nobody wants to listen to twenty-odd hours of droning or squawking. It matches the beautiful prose style, but it also is right for the character, because as far as we can tell Humbert Humbert is attractive. He describes himself as such, but his vanity is such we needn't take too much note of that; what does support it is that he has no trouble getting adult partners, his landlady falls for him despite his making little effort to charm her, and even Lo's 'seduction' of him fits: she practises flirtation on him in the way that normal girls do practice on apparently safe targets, only he exploits it - but again, it suggests a appealing exterior. Sadly, the troper take on him is, well, troperish: quote:Jeremy John Irons (born 1948) is an English film, television, stage and voice actor, well-known for his deep, gravelly voice, described by one critic as "whipped cream with glass shards" that reeks of MagnificentBastardry. He has won an Academy Award, two Golden Globes and an Emmy. (Because I believe in credit, I tried to find out which critic said that about him. The Net vouchsafes nothing, so I cannot blame TVTropes for that, darnit.) Also, he's 'very British', whatever the gently caress that means. Apple Tree fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Bear Sleuth posted:Going out of their way to make Humbert seem like not such an evil guy is just as bad. Tropers, Tropers, Tropers: such bleeding hearts for all the wrong kinds of people.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 12:17 |
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Analysis: Four Legs Good, Two Legs Better posted:The portrayal of quadrupedal animals (reptiles except snakes, amphisbaneans, and legless lizards, amphibians except caecilians, and mammals except kangaroos, jumping mice, springhares, jerboas, and humans) in cartoons, comics, video games, animated films, and other works that feature animals from the Nearly Normal Animal to Funny Animal tiers as either bipedal or quadrupedal as they are in real life depends on the animal's species. Some are more likely to be portrayed as bipedal (like mice, rats, and bears), some are more likely to be portrayed quadrupedal as in real life (like horses and cattle), and others can be either/or. For example, in many cartoons that features cats and dogs, the cats are more likely to walk and run on two legs while the dogs are more likely to stay on all fours. Analysis: Animal Farm posted:We don't have an article named Analysis/AnimalFarm.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 22:42 |
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Do they still manage to poo poo up every single article with terrible Dr. Who crossover?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 23:19 |
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AmiYumi posted:Do they still manage to poo poo up every single article with terrible Dr. Who crossover? I don't think it has to even be Dr. Who. All of these articles, at their very best, seem like a chore to read. At their worst, well...
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 00:42 |
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AmiYumi posted:Do they still manage to poo poo up every single article with terrible Dr. Who crossover? http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TimeLord They've "helpfully" collated the Dr. Who crossover into its own page. Dr. Who Fanwank posted:Alternately, every life form in every universe is a Time Lord at some point in reincarnation. Thus, the Ultimate Question is really 'How many Time Lords are there in total?' 42. Deep, man.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 01:20 |
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SourceElement posted:http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TimeLord "Reference! I made another reference!" It's like a slightly smarter version of Disaster Movie, but smarter in an insufferable way and not nearly as smart as they think.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 01:26 |
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You know, this thread's been a lot of fun so far, but I really miss having a central focus. The old TV Tropes threads had Pedogeddon and novel-length anime fanfiction. The Malatora thread had Taygon the psychotic cult leader and novel-length Malatora fanfiction (). Reddit had the Redditbomb; Bitcoins had two devastating bubbles. A lot of the old "classic" mock threads had poo poo like forum invasions, which obviously won't fly here, but that kind of stuff at least worked for the time. Don't get me wrong, I'll always enjoy pointing and laughing at idiots with horrible ideas, but I keep wishing that some insane thing would just come along and kick this thread up a level.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 02:10 |
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While the MLP page is bad, I don't think anything quite matches the sperging you will find on the Warhammer 40000 page. It doesn't help that Games Worskshop's policy basically says "anything goes" when it comes to fluff or homebrew game rules. So you get people taking it a little too seriously. Like most 40K players.Sham bam bamina! posted:You know, this thread's been a lot of fun so far, but I really miss having a central focus. The old TV Tropes threads had Pedogeddon and novel-length anime fanfiction. The Malatora thread had Taygon the psychotic cult leader and novel-length Malatora fanfiction (). Reddit had the Redditbomb; Bitcoins had two devastating bubbles. A lot of the old "classic" mock threads had poo poo like forum invasions, which obviously won't fly here, but that kind of stuff at least worked for the time. Don't get me wrong, I'll always enjoy pointing and laughing at idiots with horrible ideas, but I keep wishing that some insane thing would just come along and kick this thread up a level. Our mere presence can often be enough to drive them into a rage. I remember during the last thread how the tropers basically poo poo themselves when they realized SA was monitoring their every post for nuggets of humor. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:You know, this thread's been a lot of fun so far, but I really miss having a central focus. The old TV Tropes threads had Pedogeddon and novel-length anime fanfiction. The Malatora thread had Taygon the psychotic cult leader and novel-length Malatora fanfiction (). Reddit had the Redditbomb; Bitcoins had two devastating bubbles. A lot of the old "classic" mock threads had poo poo like forum invasions, which obviously won't fly here, but that kind of stuff at least worked for the time. Don't get me wrong, I'll always enjoy pointing and laughing at idiots with horrible ideas, but I keep wishing that some insane thing would just come along and kick this thread up a level. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3569947&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=9#post419769620 In this post I found another lovely, tropery piece of (full-length!) fiction that we might be able to get something AITTBU-esque out of, but I'm not actually sure if it's any worse than the average Troper creation.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 02:36 |
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LaughMyselfTo posted:In this post I found another lovely, tropery piece of (full-length!) fiction that we might be able to get something AITTBU-esque out of, but I'm not actually sure if it's any worse than the average Troper creation. If someone can sit through such amazing gimmicks as a character who does nothing but shout "Frog! Frog! Frog! Frog! Frog!"
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 02:55 |
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Haha, I'll never get tired of demonstrating the disproportionate amounts of space dedicated to the most niche, nerdy things while ignoring creatively significant texts and artists. Don't forget that webcomics and Let's Plays are high art on TV Tropes too, they were always good ground for that exercise. Missed the thread, especially the legitimately enlightening art criticism and Namtab's fan-fiction riffing; I remember an atrocious Harry Potter one that hasn't been brought up yet to my knowledge, something about him being an insufferable geek who constantly points out why Rowling's magical world wouldn't work in real life. I think this is their thread on it. Somewhat surprising to see that some people seem to have seen it as funny, mocking some of the very principles of TV Tropes. Of course, it still has over 200 pages(!) of "discussion" on it. This isn't even "I don't care about Lolita but please reconsider restoring then necessary page on [generic bad, pornographic anime]."-level bad, it's just... quote:2) If Harry applied the knowledge he used to do partial transfiguration to Wingardium Leviosa, he would get full telekinesis. Which means he could pull all the stuff you're not allowed to do with free transfiguration with a first-year spell. (adjusting wave-functions will get you pretty much every non-information-adjusting or magic-adjusting spell in the books) quote:I would imagine that delicate work using false memory charms would require careful planning on the part of the caster, including a reasonably detailed and accurate model of one's intended subject/victim to ensure one's ability to decide what memor(y/ies) would most likely elicit the desired response. Using Obliviation one can employ a trial and error method in almost any sort of interaction. quote:Indeed. One must develop sufficiant skill at anything before attempting to use it in as sensitive a situation as magical mental manipulation. A sufficiantly intelligent and careful wizard who has no qualms experimenting on muggles has options. That is of course assuming that some inherent difference between the minds of witches/wizards and muggles doesn't make any data gained in such a fashion inapplicable. ... good for sucking the life out of those books.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 07:35 |
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Sham bam bamina! posted:You know, this thread's been a lot of fun so far, but I really miss having a central focus. The old TV Tropes threads had Pedogeddon and novel-length anime fanfiction. The Malatora thread had Taygon the psychotic cult leader and novel-length Malatora fanfiction (). Reddit had the Redditbomb; Bitcoins had two devastating bubbles. A lot of the old "classic" mock threads had poo poo like forum invasions, which obviously won't fly here, but that kind of stuff at least worked for the time. Don't get me wrong, I'll always enjoy pointing and laughing at idiots with horrible ideas, but I keep wishing that some insane thing would just come along and kick this thread up a level. Yeah, the posting quality bar is pretty low in this thread so far. I've been pretty poo poo in it because there's nothing really going on at TVTropes right now. They're just being kinda lukewarm terrible. Hopefully we can stick it out for a little while because one of two things may give us something to mock in real time: Fast Eddie is at his craziest when he hears that the Goons are watching. He starts outright banning anyone for saying anything nicer than "Goons are literally Nazis." He'll also edit the SA trope page to remove stuff like "Goons talk a lot of poo poo but they literally fund a school and give a decent chunk to other charities. So they can't be all bad." And booting anyone who questions him about it. NaNoWriMo is every holiday ever for this thread. We can always hope for another MCAC. Or at least some of the elements that MCAC used in order to fulfill the wordcount challenge portion of NaNoWriMo. I'm actually surprised more Tropers don't just copy and past entire singalongs because it's 11:30 and I need my thousand words.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 08:08 |
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Thinky Whale posted:"I thought Lolita was sexy." Its terrifying to imagine that these sorts of people exist and are walking about. What is also scary is what happens when a person leaves and realises how horrible they've been, is there ever any redemption for one of the poor brain damaged fuckers who realises years down the line that "oh poo poo, rape is always bad and these fuckers are making light of it" or "holy crap everyone here is a paedophile". I mean most would just shrug and go back to porno-anime and try and justify how people "don't understand" it, but I'd feel sorry for the people who realise how horrifying it all is and then have no way to undo being on there.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 08:10 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 14:11 |
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I dunno, I thought Lottery of Babylon's Animal Farm find was pretty stellar. But you want horrible writing? I'll show you horrible writing. This is their idea of how working-class Londoners talk:quote:
You're welcome. (Goodness knows, Cockneys say 'fancy-schmancy' and 'no siree' all the time down my way.) Apparently, though, this is something only a pedant would mock: quote:As any Brit will tell you, there is no such thing as a "British" accent. It's especially odd when the speaker uses both the phrases "British accent" and "Scottish accent", given Scotland is in Britain. Presumably they mean "English", but England also has a ridiculous number of very markedly different accents ... When we say "British Accent" here, we don't mean a single accent but rather one of the deluge of them recognizably from Britain. I have found the area in which tropers are opposed to being sticklers for detail. It's the point where someone tells them their Dr Who impression is crap.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 10:18 |