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Hashal posted:The mirror is literally in the center of the car in that picture from the article. Front to rear, the driver sits in the center of most vehicles these days, 70mph crumple zones don't come out of nowhere unfortunately.
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Mighty Horse posted:There is a rumor floating around allpar that they are toying with some sort of Dodge based on modified version of the platform too. That would be wonderful. I'm still mad they never built the Copperhead concept. Back when it came out it was the coolest looking thing i'd ever seen. A 4c-based dodge could be a modern day equivalent.
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Vigo327 posted:That would be wonderful. The Copperhead is so cross eyed and ugly. How in God's name does anyone find it attractive? Its got jowls and a sunken in face for Christ sakes. Coredump fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Copperhead looks good. I don't know how the 4C based Dodge would work out, as the 4C production is already limited by production capacity for the tub. I guess they could build a larger production facility for carbon tubs, but that seems like a risky investment.
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Hashal posted:The mirror is literally in the center of the car in that picture from the article. The mirror probably handles really well becuase of the near-perfect weight ditribution.
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Coredump posted:The Copperhead is so cross eyed and ugly. How in God's name does anyone find it attractive? Keep in mind my post included the works "back when". Here is what pontiac was doing that year. Dig the chromed 3-spoke wheels yo! DoLittle posted:I don't know how the 4C based Dodge would work out, as the 4C production is already limited by production capacity for the tub. I guess they could build a larger production facility for carbon tubs, but that seems like a risky investment. Good point. At this point with Dodge, small RWD sports car talk is cheap. There was another concept called the Razor that got a LOT of clamor in spite of being ugly as sin, and they didn't build that either. Although, in both cases (copperhead and razor) i think the MB takeover was a factor (im declining to say how much of one) in the fact that cars LIKE that did not get built. Thankfully Chrysler/Fiat own several brands whose brand identity lends itself to that type of vehicle.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 17:01 |
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There was the Demon concept in 2007, as well.
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DoLittle posted:Copperhead looks good. I don't know how the 4C based Dodge would work out, as the 4C production is already limited by production capacity for the tub. I guess they could build a larger production facility for carbon tubs, but that seems like a risky investment. It's more likely (not really) that the upcoming small Alfa-Miata that's going to be built by Mazda could get a Dodge variant.
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DoLittle posted:Copperhead looks good. I don't know how the 4C based Dodge would work out, as the 4C production is already limited by production capacity for the tub. I guess they could build a larger production facility for carbon tubs, but that seems like a risky investment. Or make it out of a cheaper material, if its a Dodge it would very likely be a cheaper alternative, so some compromises will be had. Vigo327 posted:
I am still pissed at Daimler over the ME-412. Chrysler's engineers absolutely crushed the SLR Mclaren in six months of development using Mercedes' own parts, the only reason it wasn't put into production was German embarrassment. Throatwarbler posted:It's more likely (not really) that the upcoming small Alfa-Miata that's going to be built by Mazda could get a Dodge variant. This is possible too. But again, it all could just be numbers on a spreadsheet somewhere and never come to fruition. Mighty Horse fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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AdmiralViscen posted:There was the Demon concept in 2007, as well. Yeah, that was the one i was trying to come up with but i could only remember the name of the Razor. Good catch. Throatwarbler posted:It's more likely (not really) that the upcoming small Alfa-Miata that's going to be built by Mazda could get a Dodge variant. Mighty Horse posted:I am still pissed at Daimler over the ME-412. There is such a long list of ways that MB took all the wind out of Chryco, it's flat depressing. I'm one of the dodge fans that thinks the Fiat merger was a best case scenario. However, i have to wonder if dodge will still suffer the 'not allowed to sell anything more cool than parent company stuff' thing under Fiat. I think the Dart could have been cooler than the Giulietta, but it's not.
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Vigo327 posted:Keep in mind my post included the works "back when". Here is what pontiac was doing that year. Dig the chromed 3-spoke wheels yo! I mean nothing against you. I hear it was a promising platform. And lots of automotive publications praised its looks when it was around. But I just don't see it. The Pontiac looks better, at least in the front, which is where I have my problems with the Copperhead.
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Wasn't there also a concept that looked a lot like the front of the Crossfire which was suppose to be a Vette killer? That never came along as well. (edit).....Nevermind found it Chrysler Firepower Concept Franco Caution fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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Vigo327 posted:
Just to go back a page, as someone who daily drives a 1 litre 100 horsepower ecoboost Fiesta, absolutely this. I moved up from a 1.4 litre naturally aspirated Fiesta about a month ago, and the new one only has an extra 4 horses but the torque has increased by a third. The promised fuel economy gains haven't really materialised because that car is hilarious to drive, and angry sounding with it.
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blk posted:On the new Mazda 3: I really like the hatchback and I'm really glad Mazda dropped the huge smile look. Really killed the look of the mazdaspeed3 for me. Franco Caution posted:Wasn't there also a concept that looked a lot like the front of the Crossfire which was suppose to be a Vette killer? That never came along as well. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Sep 25, 2013 |
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quote /= edit
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 19:13 |
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No car should have shuriken wheels except the first gen dodge viper which must have shuriken wheels.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 20:47 |
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I totally forgot about that firepower car but yeah, as i was saying, Chrysler & Co have a LONG history of talking about RWD sporty cars that never materialize, so talk from them on that subject is pretty cheap. I think the Miata thing has a good chance of being real. I'm a little dubious about any Dodge being based off the 4C.
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# ? Sep 25, 2013 21:40 |
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Let's not forget the Plymouth concepts: 1998 Plymouth Pronto:
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Vigo327 posted:I totally forgot about that firepower car but yeah, as i was saying, Chrysler & Co have a LONG history of talking about RWD sporty cars that never materialize, so talk from them on that subject is pretty cheap. I think the Miata thing has a good chance of being real. I'm a little dubious about any Dodge being based off the 4C. Well right now it seems the problem is that NOTHING seems to be materializing. The Cherokee *still* isn't here, apparently they are having trouble with the 9 speed transmissions ( not releasing a car because the transmission isn't ready? What a country! ). The diesel GC and Ram are held up too until next year because of some supplier fuckery with VM Motori. There's apparently no SRT4, no replacement for the Avenger, no new minivan, nothing on the horizon except for the new HD trucks. Everything that has come out was already in the pipeline when FIAT came along, the only actual joint venture product so far has been the Dart and it hasn't exactly set the sales charts on fire.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 04:35 |
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the Dodge Copperhead (I mean Dodge CONCEPT CAR) and Plymouth Pronto sucked in Gran Turismo 2.
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DropShadow posted:Let's not forget the Plymouth concepts: Quick, get that S2000 an epi pen!
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 07:40 |
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2015 Ford Superduty press releasequote:2015 Ford F-Series Super Duty Features Improved Power Stroke Diesel, Stronger F-450, Revamped King Ranch Edition So they are eliminating the dual compressor wheel turbo and replacing it with a larger conventional type? I thought this was a big selling point when the 6.7l first came out, are they no walking that statement back?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 08:28 |
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Isn't that how it always is? 2012: This is the new awesome, feature X is a revolution in engineering! 2013: Holy Moly, feature Y will change your world, it's so much better than X. quote:Positioning the turbo inside the engine’s valley helps isolate the engine’s hottest temperatures, improving performance and efficiency, while also reducing noise, vibration and harshness "Isolating the engine's hottest temperatures" = have fun dealing with coking in a few years?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 10:56 |
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Since when do pickup trucks come with jake brakes?
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 12:49 |
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Dodge offered one a couple of years ago, and everyone started following. Waiting for the first diesel factory pickup with stacks.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Since when do pickup trucks come with jake brakes? I was in a tow truck a few years ago and the (probably 18 or 19 year old) driver demonstrated with glee to me the "exhaust brake" he had installed on the truck. I will admit it made a great sound when he let it rip coming downhill through my neighborhood. I'm assuming from that you could get a proper Jake brake too, as I think exhaust brakes and Jake brakes are different (based on my rudimentary understanding of diesel hooliganism). Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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It's nice that BMW has kept the number of exhausts:penis size thing consistent over the years. I've always told my sister that if the guy is driving a BMW, 1 or 2 exhausts on the same side = get lost, 1 exhaust on each side = probably a douche, 4 exhausts = . Still aplies.
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Mighty Horse posted:Dodge offered one a couple of years ago, and everyone started following. they should build the rumble bee and do this.
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Throatwarbler posted:The diesel GC and Ram are held up too until next year because of some supplier fuckery with VM Motori. You have any details about this? I'd be interested in hearing what the problem is.
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jfreder posted:You have any details about this? I'd be interested in hearing what the problem is. It's on allpar, I may have misremembered, the GC is still coming and only the Ram is delayed.
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Mighty Horse posted:Dodge offered one a couple of years ago, and everyone started following. It'll happen eventually. I just pray that when it does, truck nuts come as a dealer installed option.
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# ? Sep 26, 2013 17:02 |
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The Equus Bass770 http://equus-automotive.com/
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jeff8472 posted:The Equus Bass770 I was just about to post this only with my added comparison
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jeff8472 posted:The Equus Bass770 That'd fit right in next to the Banshee from GTA that got built recently.
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Throatwarbler posted:Well right now it seems the problem is that NOTHING seems to be materializing. The Cherokee *still* isn't here, apparently they are having trouble with the 9 speed transmissions ( not releasing a car because the transmission isn't ready? What a country! ). The diesel GC and Ram are held up too until next year because of some supplier fuckery with VM Motori. There's apparently no SRT4, no replacement for the Avenger, no new minivan, nothing on the horizon except for the new HD trucks. I am greatly saddened by Chrysler's abandonment of the minivan. My turbo/5spd Caravan is still one of my favorite vehicles of all time and minivans in general are pretty much my favorite type of vehicle.
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Throatwarbler posted:It's on allpar, I may have misremembered, the GC is still coming and only the Ram is delayed.
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Throatwarbler posted:
At least the 4 exhaust tips aren't all in a row like on the C7. It worked marginally better on the C6 since it had some space between the sets and looked more balanced and not like some jet boat or spaceship or this poor thing: I still not digging the F30 headlights to grill connector thingie going on - but sign me the gently caress up for an M3 sedan that can go over 280 miles on a tank please. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Throatwarbler posted:2015 Ford Superduty press release So ford is increasing the power from 400hp/800ft/lbs and strengthening and simplifying the engine to deal with more power. Chevy's counterpoint? Still "only" 397hp, 765ft/lbs......but she's got a new hat!
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Tekne posted:On a positive note, Fiat is purchasing GM's share of VM, which will give them full control of the company. I can't help but think that this is a prelude to a deluge of diesel options throughout Chriat's American lineup. That is downright exciting to me. I don't have any reason to think this would actually happen, but the availability of cost-effective and emissions-compliant small diesels would give compact pickups the ability to justify their own existence vs full sizes since they could actually get fuel economy sufficiently better to offset their lower truck-stuff capabilities.
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Powershift posted:So ford is increasing the power from 400hp/800ft/lbs and strengthening and simplifying the engine to deal with more power. I'm not gonna lie, the new GM trucks all look pretty nice on the outside, especially the Sierra Denali. Vigo327 posted:I am greatly saddened by Chrysler's abandonment of the minivan. My turbo/5spd Caravan is still one of my favorite vehicles of all time and minivans in general are pretty much my favorite type of vehicle. Well the current minivan isn't too bad, or do you mean you're looking for a real "mini" minivan?
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