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Camoes posted:I'm sorry if I sound ignorant, but my knowledge in cars doesn't go past F1. What is the name of this car? It's the most beautiful car I've ever seen. Classic Jags are seriously amazing machines. Here's a modern day recreation from a company called Eagle: Old Jag engines also sounded *wonderful* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3IbF5bJSEU&t=2533s That is the best VBD episode. Miss that show.
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angryhampster posted:Classic Jags are seriously amazing machines. Here's a modern day recreation from a company called Eagle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66owXqZaexs Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Go see the movie Rush. It rocks and is completely AI with the classic mid-70's F1 porn/sounds.
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 16:08 |
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Roadkill just posted this on Facebook.
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Collateral Damage posted:Roadkill just posted this on Facebook. It's so tacky that I love it again.
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That was my thought as well. It's so tacky it wraps back around to awesome.
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The couple in the background really sell the image. e- also, holy gently caress, is that outside the USA?!
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VikingSkull posted:The couple in the background really sell the image. Venezuela or Columbia
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angryhampster posted:Classic Jags are seriously amazing machines. Here's a modern day recreation from a company called Eagle: This is a little OT, but what's the legal situation with recreations of old cars, anyway? I look at abortions like the PT Cruiser that were trying to evoke a certain era of cars, and wonder why they didn't just build the frame+body of an actual Chrysler Airstream or something and stick a modern engine in. Are there regulatory requirements that make this lovely? That Jaaaaaaaaaag looks pretty good, why can't we have mass-produced replicas of other classic cars?
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yyyyyy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbhEu60jrw I actually own a record called "The Exciting Racing Sounds of Grand Prix" which was intended as a promotional record for the movie "Grand Prix". It includes interviews with Phil and Graham Hill, and tons of 60s F1 engine noises. Was googling around about it after seeing this video, and it turns out that the entire thing is on Youtube. It's pretty loving awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qw7Ius3Qfc http://www.discogs.com/No-Artist-The-Exciting-Racing-Sounds-Of-Grand-Prix/release/641895 I also own an Indy 500 record released by Van Kamp's Pork and Beans, but honestly I don't think I've ever gotten around to listening to it; I just bought it because who wouldn't buy a race car record put out by pork and beans?
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relative_q posted:I also own an Indy 500 record released by Van Kamp's Pork and Beans, but honestly I don't think I've ever gotten around to listening to it; I just bought it because who wouldn't buy a race car record put out by pork and beans? How would you know the brapping is actually from the cars?
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West SAAB Story posted:How would you know the brapping is actually from the cars? This might subliminally be the reason why I haven't listened to it despite having had it on the shelf for years.
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Brings new meaning to the words 'blow off valve'.
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BlackMK4 posted:Venezuela or Columbia Nope. That's Germany. The license plate is German and that website he advertises on his windshield is for a gold plating company in Germany, too. If you want your Harley gold plated, give them a call. e: This is also 80s as gently caress and I'm immediately reminded of Manta, Manta in terms of aesthetic. Except somehow even tackier.
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parrhesia posted:Nope. That's Germany. The license plate is German and that website he advertises on his windshield is for a gold plating company in Germany, too. If you want your Harley gold plated, give them a call. Weird, Telenorma is Venezulea / Columbia. Whoops
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Pham Nuwen posted:I look at abortions like the PT Cruiser that were trying to evoke a certain era of cars, and wonder why they didn't just build the frame+body of an actual Chrysler Airstream or something and stick a modern engine in. Are there regulatory requirements that make this lovely? That Jaaaaaaaaaag looks pretty good, why can't we have mass-produced replicas of other classic cars? Old cars don't need the government's help to be lovely, they just inherently are. I can understand the opinion of many on old cars they never actually had to deal with, but as a mechanic ive driven and worked on a lot of old cars and putting a modern engine in them doesn't come close to making them desirable to a mainstream buyer. There are people out there willing to pay new-car money to restomod old cars but i dont think there are enough people willing to do that to prop up a mass-production run of new-old cars, even if you could legally sell such a thing. I think anyone in a position to spend $20k putting a new motor into an old heap can do so already, and for most of them the process is part of the fun. But really, old cars mostly suck at everything. They have great novelty value and when considered in that context can be 'worth it', but if you're just being objective you will get into any (normal-ish) old car and just go "Wow. This is a piece of crap."
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Vigo327 posted:Old cars don't need the government's help to be lovely, they just inherently are. I can understand the opinion of many on old cars they never actually had to deal with, but as a mechanic ive driven and worked on a lot of old cars and putting a modern engine in them doesn't come close to making them desirable to a mainstream buyer. There are people out there willing to pay new-car money to restomod old cars but i dont think there are enough people willing to do that to prop up a mass-production run of new-old cars, even if you could legally sell such a thing. I think anyone in a position to spend $20k putting a new motor into an old heap can do so already, and for most of them the process is part of the fun. Well, I prefer to drive my 62 Studebaker over the 2010 Honda, but I won't pretend it's more reliable or safer or anything. I'm just saying, for example, the PT Loser was supposed to be like those old cars. Would it have been totally impossible for them to take the old frame and body, or even just the body, and stick some combination of modern engine and transmission and interior inside? Could it really be worse than what they ended up doing?
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# ? Sep 27, 2013 23:47 |
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Here's a Porsche 944. Built for time attack, which explains the aggressive aero. it used to be a 2.5L 8v turbo with 260hp and 1200 kg. This version is 3.1L, 505hp, 1140 kg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCXkgI7VPsc
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Pham Nuwen posted:Well, I prefer to drive my 62 Studebaker over the 2010 Honda, but I won't pretend it's more reliable or safer or anything. It would be extremely costly. Modern factories are geared to make modern cars; they would have to put together tooling and production facilities purely for making a niche market car that they can't objectively sell as being good in any way besides nostalgia factor. Plus modern car buyers want a modern car; noone who waxes lyrical about the good ol' days actually remembers what it was like to drive those garbage cars. A new engine/drivetrain doesn't make a car feel new, modern suspension and body design is lightyears ahead of even two decades ago, let alone fifty years ago. The current target market for what you're visualising is stuff like the new mustang/challenger/camaro. Extremely retro-styled cars which attempt to capture the bullshit imaginary 'spirit' of cars the owners have never driven, without actually making people leave the cosseting blanket of modern technology. All of this makes the whole idea a hopelessly unprofitable venture. It works for the cottage industry because there is a subset of people who are very wealthy and want an actual genuine old car without the hassle of it breaking down every ten minutes or being hopelessly slow compared to a corolla.
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I would drive the mess out of this every day with no shame.
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[/quote]Collateral Damage posted:Roadkill just posted this on Facebook. The guy's got an old C-10 done up similarly, but I think it's a little more tacky on the truck:
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Collateral Damage posted:Roadkill just posted this on Facebook. The best part of this is that, unless he did a conversion, this thing is FWD.
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Q_res posted:The best part of this is that, unless he did a conversion, this thing is FWD. Oh, poo poo, you're right. Totally missed that!
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Slavvy posted:All of this makes the whole idea a hopelessly unprofitable venture. It works for the cottage industry because there is a subset of people who are very wealthy and want an actual genuine old car without the hassle of it breaking down every ten minutes or being hopelessly slow compared to a corolla. I saw a 'How it's Made' on the Morgan Aero and i was flabbergasted by the old-school craftsmanship and construction techniques used to put one together. I couldn't believe how totally UN-automated it was. I ended up thinking it was very cool, and a very good reason to buy one if you're in a position to do so and actually place value on the idea of human craftsmanship of the old-school, hands-on variety. Cars have been my main hobby and passion for all of my adult life and i've put in a 10yr career as a professional tech, and yet i begrudgingly realize how really narrowly skilled i am in the context of something like that.
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Slavvy posted:It would be extremely costly. Modern factories are geared to make modern cars; they would have to put together tooling and production facilities purely for making a niche market car that they can't objectively sell as being good in any way besides nostalgia factor. Plus modern car buyers want a modern car; noone who waxes lyrical about the good ol' days actually remembers what it was like to drive those garbage cars. This is all totally true. But also, there are modern crash safety standards that such a thing would not be able to meet, and modern fuel economy rules that such a car would gently caress up for the carmaker (e.g., CAFE mandates fleet average MPGs that a body-on-frame beast would depress). Mostly the safety thing though. Even a lovely PT Cruiser is just massively, massively safer than any car sold in the US in, say, 1960.
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Leperflesh posted:This is all totally true. But also, there are modern crash safety standards that such a thing would not be able to meet, and modern fuel economy rules that such a car would gently caress up for the carmaker (e.g., CAFE mandates fleet average MPGs that a body-on-frame beast would depress). Mostly the safety thing though. Even a lovely PT Cruiser is just massively, massively safer than any car sold in the US in, say, 1960. But, 'MURICAN IRON! Seriously, I love my 63 Impala but I feel like it's every 10 seconds that someone says "That's way tougher than that plastic crap they make now. You must feel safe." I then point at the deep dent and crease in my quarter panel and say "See that? 5 MPH. 5MPH crushed my cars poo poo in." I try to explain to these people that they are only Steel and empty air. But they just look at me funny and walk away. I also point out how in the advent of a head-on collision I will, if not ejected, likely be decapitated via the top edge where the windshield meets the roof of the car. Or, you know, the steering column that is 6 feet of solid iron, plus all metal dash. 11BulletCatcher fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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I have a friend who swears up and down the only reason he's still alive after crashing his car in high school is because it was an old volvo. And then he had another volvo (~93ish 850) for a long time after that. I don't have the heart to tell him his new ford focus is the safest car he's ever owned.
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There is no XKE. There is, however, a Jaguar model called the E-Type that is well thought of. And it all started with the SS100. Occasionally people modified them. Later different people took them to Pebble Beach, specifically in 2013: For comparison, here's a stock SS100:
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I think people fundamentally don't understand that the purpose of the car crumpling up six ways to sunday is to control the deceleration of the occupants. A car that can run into something at 40mph and look perfect afterward is extremely counterproductive to occupant safety. And to keep the pic/post ratio proper here's a pic of that Morgan Aero i was describing the production process for. I now think it is awesome.
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Vigo327 posted:I think people fundamentally don't understand that the purpose of the car crumpling up six ways to sunday is to control the deceleration of the occupants. A car that can run into something at 40mph and look perfect afterward is extremely counterproductive to occupant safety. I'd rather have the car remain perfectly un-crumpled than have the front half of the car shoved through my face because the passenger compartment crumpled. Neither is as good as having the front part crumple up nicely, of course.
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Falken posted:Here's a Porsche 944. I was NOT expecting that to be in Australia.
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Vigo327 posted:I saw a 'How it's Made' on the Morgan Aero and i was flabbergasted by the old-school craftsmanship and construction techniques used to put one together. I couldn't believe how totally UN-automated it was. I ended up thinking it was very cool, and a very good reason to buy one if you're in a position to do so and actually place value on the idea of human craftsmanship of the old-school, hands-on variety. Cars have been my main hobby and passion for all of my adult life and i've put in a 10yr career as a professional tech, and yet i begrudgingly realize how really narrowly skilled i am in the context of something like that. /DRIVE did a fantastic feature on Morgan a little while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJLcoGMPQ94 I've always admired Morgan for sticking to their principles, modernizing their cars without losing sight of traditional craftsmanship and the entire experience of driving. I've always liked them for being so wonderfully out of place in the world of modern car design, but after watching that video, I want one even more. This is where the much-vaunted "soul and passion" lives on. Not in Italy, but in Worcestershire.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I'd rather have the car remain perfectly un-crumpled than have the front half of the car shoved through my face because the passenger compartment crumpled. Stay out of old cars, then.
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Vigo327 posted:Stay out of old cars, then. Too late. I ride motorcycles too. I'm not going to be so risk-averse that I refuse to enjoy anything.
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Old vs new car, took me a while to find the clip from a longer segment about p1800: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlCJ68LJYbk
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Pham Nuwen posted:Too late. I ride motorcycles too. I'm not going to be so risk-averse that I refuse to enjoy anything. More power to you then, man. I guess i simply failed to realize that your concern for passenger compartment crumpling did not extend beyond the internet. An egregious oversight, to be sure.
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11BulletCatcher posted:But, 'MURICAN IRON! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbImDmJdRcs This whole video rules but skip to 4:30 for the crash test if you're impatient. Watch the seats in the car fly around in the crash test as the announcer touts the solidity and safety of the car.
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# ? Sep 28, 2013 23:29 |
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Not strictly automotive, but I thought some people here might enjoy this one. I parked next to it at dinner today. Hard to see, but the rear tire was the width of that entire rear fender.
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Funzo posted:Not strictly automotive, but I thought some people here might enjoy this one. I parked next to it at dinner today. Hard to see, but the rear tire was the width of that entire rear fender. I'm sure its fast and all, but god, what a mess.
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I planned on finding and posting more but firefox kept crashing so have two for now.
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