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Seoinin posted:giving a guy brain damage Wait, what's this about? nerdbot posted:It's metal as hell! An imaginary friend is PULLING THE GHOST OUT OF SOMEONE'S BODY, TO MAKE THEM A CORPSE. That rules. That's pretty much how I feel about it. That was hilariously overkill, but y'know, gently caress her and her smug grin.
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Fred is on posted:Wait, what's this about? Jake has some signs of being brain damaged and not just stupid, I forget the details. One of them is that his planet's element was used to treat brain damage irl, and there were some other between the lines things like that. Some blame his planet, some blame wrestling with robots and hitting his head or something, and some think it happened offscreen.
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Sep 28, 2013 18:38
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Seoinin posted:So, real talk for a second here - Dirk is supposed to be creepy and awful right? Because between this and giving a guy brain damage with molesterbots, he's pretty creepy and awful. He's supposed to be a deeply flawed, heavily conflicted individual, which is supposed to contrast with Dave's hero worship of an older brother who was a mysterious, infallible, and seemingly unattainable ideal to him.
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Sep 28, 2013 18:39
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Jake has some signs of being brain damaged and not just stupid, I forget the details. One of them is that his planet's element was used to treat brain damage irl, and there were some other between the lines things like that. Some blame his planet, some blame wrestling with robots and hitting his head or something, and some think it happened offscreen. Rereading, when you know "Jake might have brain damage" is an idea people have, you realize that Hussie lays it on pretty thick that Jake hits his head a lot.
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Sep 28, 2013 19:03
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Bam! bowling ball.ThisIsNoZaku posted:Rereading, when you know "Jake might have brain damage" is an idea people have, you realize that Hussie lays it on pretty thick that Jake hits his head a lot. Bam! Bowling Ball. As for Aranea, she may have served her narrative purpose by healing Jake in the first place and keeping Jade out of the picture just long enough for Roxy to escape and otherwise move things along. I'm surprised John hasn't shown up, Jade effectively keeping him off the field. So, I don't think this is a part of her plan and I don't expect Hussie to keep her around as a result, because the alternative is raising the conductor's baton and showing the sort of agency that might be going against the story he wants to tell.
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Sep 28, 2013 19:23
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Well, she didn't seem to know that Brain Ghost Dirk existing was thing that could happen, so I really doubt Dirk-powers were a part of her plan. Unless she planned to do this later when Real Dirk showed up? Nah.
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Sep 28, 2013 19:33
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Where does she get her knowledge of how classes and elements work, and how much does she know? She sure likes knowing things but she didn't seem to know a prince of heart could pull this off.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:16
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Wasn't, like, half her knowledge self-admitted speculation? Or was that just Calliope?
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Sep 28, 2013 20:20
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Where does she get her knowledge of how classes and elements work, and how much does she know? She sure likes knowing things but she didn't seem to know a prince of heart could pull this off. Her flaw here is that, in her hubris, she either forgot that Dirk could do that or just assumed he was the kind of meat head that wouldn't consider a course of action that didn't involve a sword. It's also possible that ripping out someone's soul is a line she didn't anticipate Dirk to cross.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:24
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Oddly enough, the only plan that still seems to be on track is Caliborn's plan to fight a fully powered Jake. Aranea derailed everyone else's, and Dirk seems to be stopping her.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:24
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Were all those ghosts from the beta timelines of the troll sessions? Maybe there was never a timeline where the heart players actually got serious about something besides cat puns and learned how to use their god tier powers.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:27
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Where does she get her knowledge of how classes and elements work, and how much does she know? She sure likes knowing things but she didn't seem to know a prince of heart could pull this off. Billions of years in the afterlife, meeting alternate timeline versions of her friends. Many of whom would be more competent in their roles than the ones she knew when she was alive, since the alpha timeline was by definition the one where they all hosed up and achieved nothing. e:f,b
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Sep 28, 2013 20:27
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Even if the eons spent as a ghost watching other iterations/universes play out didn't give her sufficient knowledge of the player roles, the A1 trolls also spent 6 years playing before finally giving up, and that's plenty of time to go around various temples and dungeons and learn a bunch of poo poo like the game wants you to.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:38
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Even if this is the end of Aranea's little plan, it probably won't be the end of her character. I bet Vriska and Meenah have some choice words for her when she gets back.
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Sep 28, 2013 20:51
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Were all those ghosts from the beta timelines of the troll sessions? Maybe there was never a timeline where the heart players actually got serious about something besides cat puns and learned how to use their god tier powers. Makes me wonder what an actual rogue of heart does. Rogues are supposed to steal something for the good of others, so if this was godtier Nepeta here, she'd be... ripping out Aranea's soul so others could use it?
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Sep 28, 2013 21:11
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Fister Roboto posted:Makes me wonder what an actual rogue of heart does. Rogues are supposed to steal something for the good of others, so if this was godtier Nepeta here, she'd be... ripping out Aranea's soul so others could use it?
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Sep 28, 2013 21:20
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I kind of hope that this ends up with B.G. Dirk straight up murdering Aranea's soul, leaving her super dead forever, if only because then maybe death would FINALLY start to mean something in Homestuck again.
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Sep 28, 2013 21:21
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Dorroile posted:I kind of hope that this ends up with B.G. Dirk straight up murdering Aranea's soul, leaving her super dead forever, if only because then maybe death would FINALLY start to mean something in Homestuck again.
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Sep 28, 2013 21:27
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JT Jag posted:Considering how Aradia is so placid about the ghosts that get double-killed, I can't help but feel that they end up going somewhere. They're off enjoying a rousing game of Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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Sep 28, 2013 21:45
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JT Jag posted:Considering how Aradia is so placid about the ghosts that get double-killed, I can't help but feel that they end up going somewhere. Isn't she just placid about it because she knows that it is necessary?
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Sep 28, 2013 22:27
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JT Jag posted:Considering how Aradia is so placid about the ghosts that get double-killed, I can't help but feel that they end up going somewhere. Eh. I think she's so placid because they don't end up somewhere. She wanted to see the completion of the journey. Aradia may want to stay alive, but she thinks in a very unusual way.
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Sep 28, 2013 22:28
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Aradia told John the Dreambubbles were temporary and artificial. It may be a mystery as to whether there's another, final destination for them, but as a medium, psychopomp and former ghost herself, I think she has an idea where folks should go once the game is over, the toys are collected and placed in the chest. Brain Dirk better hope this permakills Aranea, though. If she's even a fraction as vindictive as Vriska, the Stepford Damaras could repeatedly do to him something close to what he did to her since psychic powers work beyond the grave.
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Sep 28, 2013 22:39
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I'm thinking Aranea's body won't stay empty long.
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Sep 28, 2013 22:47
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Bell_ posted:Brain Dirk better hope this permakills Aranea, though. If she's even a fraction as vindictive as Vriska, the Stepford Damaras could repeatedly do to him something close to what he did to her since psychic powers work beyond the grave. This is Mindfang we're talking about. She will definitely clear room in her schedule to poo poo upon your entire life given an opportunity. Redglare certainly didn't make it out alive.
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Sep 28, 2013 22:56
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Ramos posted:This is Mindfang we're talking about. She will definitely clear room in her schedule to poo poo upon your entire life given an opportunity. Redglare certainly didn't make it out alive. Pretty sure Mindfang would've turned his rear end into dork chutney with the Damarmy first, then run her mouth afterwards. Which just goes to show you that Aranea has a lot to learn yet.
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Sep 28, 2013 23:06
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If this really is the Mindfang we all know and love, she'll mind control Karkat into murdering everyone and then mind control Kanaya into performing lewd acts, and then get high as poo poo and write about it later. e: I'd actually be OK with most of those things. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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Sep 28, 2013 23:41
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Of all the stupid "ask" tumblrs, drunk mindfang was the only worthy one. So glad it was included in one of the music volumes' track art, making drunk/high mindfang official.
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Sep 28, 2013 23:56
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JT Jag posted:What with Nepeta being so involved with shipping, I think a godtier Rogue of Heart would basically steal emotions from others. Their ultimate skill would probably be to permanently change the amount of bravery or fear or passion or whatever someone feels, forever. Funny, I was thinking of something completely different.
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Sep 29, 2013 00:04
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I know this is a long shot but I kinda hope stealing Aranea's soul from her body while wearing the ring sort of ascends her to lichdom. Like, a living soul (like original ghost Aradia) doesn't have any personality or emotions. Maybe a living body without a soul doesn't have any ethics, morals or kindness. Then again I've just been reading too much Junji Ito.
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Sep 29, 2013 02:35
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Pleasant Friend posted:I know this is a long shot but I kinda hope stealing Aranea's soul from her body while wearing the ring sort of ascends her to lichdom. The 'soul' that is being pulled from her body looks like her ghost form. And we've seen that ghosts have plenty of emotions and personality, so that doesn't make sense for the Homestuck universe. The closest we've seen to bodies without souls are probably corpses, and they don't do much of anything.
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Sep 29, 2013 02:48
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It's probably just because I'm trans, but the first thing I thought after reading this update was "Oh man, now if somebody puts their soul in there, they can be the spider troll.  "
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Sep 29, 2013 02:58
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Someone like, say, a person who used to share a body with another mind, died, and now has no body to return to?  edit: and who always wanted to be a troll girl 
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Sep 29, 2013 03:06
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Pleasant Friend posted:I know this is a long shot but I kinda hope stealing Aranea's soul from her body while wearing the ring sort of ascends her to lichdom. Are you seriously implying that we're seeing Aranea at her most ethical and kindest right now?
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Sep 29, 2013 03:06
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Non-living forms we've seen: - Dreambubble Ghost - Contains all the normal emotions, memories, etc of the living being. Does not remember their death until reminded of it. Cannot leave the dreambubble*, but can use game powers / psychic powers to affect the living. - Poltergeist - Able to exist in the "real" world, and able to use psychic powers (and game powers?), but invisible. Emotionally deadened. - Possession - Ghost inhabiting an artificial body in the "real" world. Able to use psychic powers and game powers. Restoration of emotions, though this may not be a good thing, considering. Not actually non-living: - Vampire - Turns out, this was just a biological quirk. Kanaya was never actually undead. edit: Blackheart posted:Someone like, say, a person who used to share a body with another mind, died, and now has no body to return to? Ooh, neat. I like that. Bobulus fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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Sep 29, 2013 03:09
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Blackheart posted:Someone like, say, a person who used to share a body with another mind, died, and now has no body to return to? Mind. Blown.
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Sep 29, 2013 03:09
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Lizard Wizard posted:Are you seriously implying that we're seeing Aranea at her most ethical and kindest right now? I'd say she's still ahead of half the cast, even if she's not the Kindfang we were introduced to.
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Sep 29, 2013 03:10
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Blackheart posted:Someone like, say, a person who used to share a body with another mind, died, and now has no body to return to? "Here, why not inhabit this grisly meat-husk still echoing with the tortured screams of its previous owner? Ah go on, I'm sure it'll look great on you!"
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Sep 29, 2013 03:19
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Seoinin posted:"Here, why not inhabit this grisly meat-husk still echoing with the tortured screams of its previous owner? Ah go on, I'm sure it'll look great on you!" After living with Caliborn? That poo poo'd probably be like having some nice music in the background.
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Sep 29, 2013 03:27
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WhiffleballDude posted:After living with Caliborn? That poo poo'd probably be like having some nice music in the background.
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Blackheart posted:Someone like, say, a person who used to share a body with another mind, died, and now has no body to return to? Oh. Oh poo poo. If this happens, I will flip my poo poo and it will probably be the most adorable thing ever if we get to see Calliope react to having a body.
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