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Keldroc posted:A) Brainstorm is not boring. Boring is clearly subjective. And by "do" I mean "release for sale to the public" not "fart around with prototypes for 2 years".
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Keldroc posted:Good luck with that. I suspect we will never see a Headmaster from Hasbro again. Function X figures cost a lot less than $500, should you get tired of waiting. The targetmasters have all been pretty good. Cassette bots have been fairly spot on and came in cassette bots only packs which was something that wasn't supposed to happen prior. Also Metroplex is 2 feet tall. Headmasters really don't seem that much out of the realms of possibility, but how much are the 3rd party headmasters supposed to go for, like 20-30 dollars?
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Sep 28, 2013 23:52
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I think the average for 3rd party headmasters has been $70. Not exactly a bargain, but not totally unfair either.
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So, what's the general consensus on third-party Devastators? There are a few options out there, and I don't really want to look through fifty sites for a run down. I'm not buying any time soon, but I'd still like to know the pros, cons, and general feeling about them.
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Sep 29, 2013 00:11
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The problem with Headmasters has been discussed to death. If the play pattern involves something crucial which can be lost by the end user, Hasbro is pretty reluctant to return to that gimmick. It's the one area we may never see a Hasbro version of again.
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Sep 29, 2013 00:13
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Re: Third party devastators What I've heard again and again is that the MakeToys Giant is a better toy, and that TFC Hercules is a better display piece. I have no idea what that means though. I have Hercules. He is fantastic. I think the distinction is purely aesthetic--I liked the look of Hercules better (especially his arms), so I got him. Worth every penny
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Sep 29, 2013 00:18
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From what I've seen the general consensus is the opposite, actually. But yeah both are great toys and people like to make up silly arguments against the one they didn't pick. You're right, just pick the one you like more and go with it, can't go wrong there.
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Sep 29, 2013 00:29
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Blackheart posted:Now, an IDW comics-related question: this is broad enough that it shouldn't be spoilers, but if it somehow is just please tell me and I'll spoiler 'em up... Just how powerful are Phase sixers supposed to be in relation to, for example, combiners? I mean we know that IDW Devastator is supposed to be crazy powerful and apparently combiners are a desirable thing, but P6ers are described (and shown as) stupidly overpowered death machines. How do they compare to, say, Megatron? I know that they're hard-wired to fear fighting him, but that's a safety measure, is he still on equal "power" terms with them? We know that they can be taken down, but for example in Black Shadow's case it wasn't clear if it was done through careful strategy or just force. The problem is that their introduction in fiction is basically "can destroy a planetary civilization solo" and their actual results in the comics vary. It's a familiar trope to WH40K readers, who read fluff pieces in codexes making a race all but invincible, but they will be chumps the next time they're mentioned (in someone else's codex).
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Blackheart posted:From what I've seen the general consensus is the opposite, actually. Isn't one of them like $200 more than the other? If the quality of each product is comparable, then price seems like a good way to make a decision.
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GD_American posted:The problem is that their introduction in fiction is basically "can destroy a planetary civilization solo" and their actual results in the comics vary. It's a familiar trope to WH40K readers, who read fluff pieces in codexes making a race all but invincible, but they will be chumps the next time they're mentioned (in someone else's codex). Yeah, I suspected as much. It varies between writers then, but the whole "destroy civilizations on their own" made expectations too high. revtoiletduck posted:Isn't one of them like $200 more than the other? If the quality of each product is comparable, then price seems like a good way to make a decision. Initially yes, but aftermarket prices have reduced the gap between them. At the same price I'd still go for Giant since I like the molds more, however. It wouldn't surprise me if Maketoys goes for another run of Green Giant eventually, or even a silly repaint like Hercules' Perseus variant.
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GD_American posted:The problem is that their introduction in fiction is basically "can destroy a planetary civilization solo" and their actual results in the comics vary. It's a familiar trope to WH40K readers, who read fluff pieces in codexes making a race all but invincible, but they will be chumps the next time they're mentioned (in someone else's codex).
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The phase sixers were not introduced as being able to take on civilizations, they were introduced as capable of taking on civilizations in phase six. Phase six is after the 'cons have extracted nearly everything of value from a planet after plummeting its civilization into massive civil war. It's also sort of implied by Overlord that the Autobots don't properly assess dealing with him - They just sort of run in and smash into phase sixers. I think given how Sixshot (who is supposedly Overlord's better, especially since he can't run out of energon) lost to a titan almost instantly but survived a combiner could probably take a phase sixer on. Honestly they seem more suited to individual combat and their missions because of endurance and stamina, not destructive potential.Xenomrph posted:Wasn't one of the Phase Sixers taken out by the DJD in MTMTE? Black Shadow, or something? edit: Man rereading issue 14 where Overlord's origins are discussed has a bit where Chromedome discussed lobotomizing "high risk individuals" to control their urges while Pharma is in the shot. We all knew what he meant but daaaaamn did Roberts really lay that one in. Spiderdrake fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Boring is clearly subjective. And by "do" I mean "release for sale to the public" not "fart around with prototypes for 2 years". A fine attempt to put a negative spin on an awesome figure, but out of all the third party companies, Fansproject is probably the one that shows prototypes the closest to release, usually less than a year out. Mindwipe is next up after their Brainstorm, and BotCon in June was the first they showed that prototype at all. WendigoJohnson posted:The targetmasters have all been pretty good. Cassette bots have been fairly spot on and came in cassette bots only packs which was something that wasn't supposed to happen prior. Also Metroplex is 2 feet tall. They're out of the realm of possibility because Hasbro has pretty much said multiple times they won't make any, ever. The reasoning here is that if kids lose the little robot, the entire toy is useless because it has no head. This is why we have seen Targetmasters but not Headmasters in the CHUG line. It's not a "OMG HASBRO IGNORES HEADMASTERS" thing, it's a very understandable policy regarding essential small pieces that are easily lost. We might see Headmaster characters, but they won't have detachable heads that turn into little robots. The Function X figures are $60-70, plus shipping which will vary based on your location. Keldroc fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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After Code being such an amazing figure, I'm completely sold on the FP Headmasters line. Especially considering ToyWorld's offerings are a good $30 more each.
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Kurui Reiten posted:So, what's the general consensus on third-party Devastators? There are a few options out there, and I don't really want to look through fifty sites for a run down. I'm not buying any time soon, but I'd still like to know the pros, cons, and general feeling about them. Personally the size and lack of extra parts sealed the deal for me. I like my combiners as large and with as little kibble as possible. They're both good figures, it's really down to personal preference.
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I love the FP Mindwipe so much. Original Mindwipe was a robot with some bat wings that folded up into a cube with bat wings and a little flip up bat head.
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Keldroc posted:
If their heads aren't detachable but still accurate in robot mode that would be fine. Look at Double Dealer, he's not a powermaster in his new form but still pretty accurate in robot mode(despite being a retool). I just wish the voyagers would come with the targetmasters that the legends have. They would be to scale in weapon mode with the larger figures. Roller is about the same size as Sanstorm's gun.
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I have both yellow Giant and Hercules. Giant is cool but Hercules has more mass and is more imposing. He's also a bit floppier as a result, but it isn't too bad. If I had to pick between the two I'd go with Hercules since Voyager sized Constructicons seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Thunderwing and Bludgeon weren't pretenders but were still good renditions of the characters. Having the Headmasters turn up and just have regular heads, but be like Human Alliance toys with a little robot instead of a human (Nebulan Alliance?). Or even just a regular toy no gimmicks.
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Rereading MTMTE from the start, (Spoilers for issue 2 to issue 21, caution!!) http://imgur.com/5tKabcY http://imgur.com/jc8MKoO http://imgur.com/ceMl8kR Such a awesome joke. Veg fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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Veg posted:Rereading MTMTE from the start, Huh?
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EthanSteele posted:Thunderwing and Bludgeon weren't pretenders but were still good renditions of the characters. Having the Headmasters turn up and just have regular heads, but be like Human Alliance toys with a little robot instead of a human (Nebulan Alliance?). Or even just a regular toy no gimmicks. Well sure, and that works out just fine, especially considering the versions of those characters we're likely to get from Hasbro are the IDW ones, which aren't Headmasters anyway. But as someone who loves the original Headmaster gimmick and brilliantly engineered Transformers, the Function X line is a godsend. Seriously, folks, get your hands on a Code and you will never look back.
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The_Doctor posted:Huh? A Magic: The Gathering reference? The second one has coloured circles arranged in the sequenced used by the colours of mana. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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Sep 29, 2013 13:38
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Keldroc posted:They're out of the realm of possibility because Hasbro has pretty much said multiple times they won't make any, ever. The reasoning here is that if kids lose the little robot, the entire toy is useless because it has no head. This is why we have seen Targetmasters but not Headmasters in the CHUG line. It's not a "OMG HASBRO IGNORES HEADMASTERS" thing, it's a very understandable policy regarding essential small pieces that are easily lost. We might see Headmaster characters, but they won't have detachable heads that turn into little robots. That's also why any future combiners are going to be like WFC Bruticus and Prime Abominus. Weep for the future!
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Keldroc posted:They're out of the realm of possibility because Hasbro has pretty much said multiple times they won't make any, ever. The reasoning here is that if kids lose the little robot, the entire toy is useless because it has no head. This is why we have seen Targetmasters but not Headmasters in the CHUG line. It's not a "OMG HASBRO IGNORES HEADMASTERS" thing, it's a very understandable policy regarding essential small pieces that are easily lost. We might see Headmaster characters, but they won't have detachable heads that turn into little robots. As a kid I saw Headmasters and thought they were stupid. My opinion has never wavered. The only time they rationalized it to make sense was in TF:Animated, of all places.
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BizarroAzrael posted:A Magic: The Gathering reference? The second one has coloured circles arranged in the sequenced used by the colours of mana. Skids was possibly speaking to one of their sparks or sometimes.
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Veg posted:Rereading MTMTE from the start, You forgot one: http://imgur.com/zpnKzAw
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I thought it was a reference to Transformers: Cybertron. Cyber planet keys and whatnot.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I thought it was a reference to Transformers: Cybertron. Cyber planet keys and whatnot. I picked up a Spyshot 6 today at a local toy show. He is a really cool little bot! The head reminds me of Rung and it has killer light piping. Have some pics!      e: bonus 
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Keldroc posted:Seriously, folks, get your hands on a Code and you will never look back. Unless you're me. I thought Code was lame, sold it, and un-pre-ordered the others.
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Iced Cocoa posted:You forgot one: Aaahhh that owns.
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:That's also why any future combiners are going to be like WFC Bruticus and Prime Abominus. Weep for the future! WFC Bruticus was pretty good. Certainly much better than the Energon Version. Prime Abominus looks like poo poo though, he's what would happen if the Powercore Combiners had robot modes for their limbs. Then again I have all four versions of Bruticus so I may just be a tad biased. Having each one with a set of matching limbs really does make them look badass. Especialy if you have Brawl or Swindle as each limb he just looks so chunky and burly that you couldn't hate it. I also love their individual modes, especially Brawl's and Onslaught's robot mode. Blastoff only looks good in that fan made mode. However G1 blastoff wasn't all that great either, so at least he's a step up from that. I think that we'll get voyager combiner components eventually, we already have 2 foot tall Metroplex so it's not like they won't go all out ever again. Having even an 18 inch tall combiner wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility. The Taint Reaper fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Sep 30, 2013 |
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WendigoJohnson posted:Then again I have all four versions of Bruticus so I may just be a tad biased. Having each one with a set of matching limbs really does make them look badass. Especialy if you have Brawl or Swindle as each limb he just looks so chunky and burly that you couldn't hate it. I also love their individual modes, especially Brawl's and Onslaught's robot mode. You're the first person I've seen who likes Onslaught's robot anything. I also have an irrational love of the FOC combaticons, but even I admit the Onslaught mold is a hot loving mess. Those arms 
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3 posted:You're the first person I've seen who likes Onslaught's robot anything. I also have an irrational love of the FOC combaticons, but even I admit the Onslaught mold is a hot loving mess. Those arms It really works with Impactor. I don't know why but the Head sculpt just really brings out that one mold.
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3 posted:You're the first person I've seen who likes Onslaught's robot anything. I also have an irrational love of the FOC combaticons, but even I admit the Onslaught mold is a hot loving mess. Those arms Same here,as much as I like the big guy Onslaught's arms and Blastoff's shoulders are inexcusable. That said I'm sure we will get more and better combiners in the future, they sure milked the FoC combaticons' molds as much as they could. Still curious about that unnamed legends military vehicles combiner they showed last SDCC.
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Blackheart posted:Still curious about that unnamed legends military vehicles combiner they showed last SDCC. Going by the robot modes faces, they look like a cross between Animated and Prime. One of them even is wearing a monocle, I think it's the fat robot that turns into a tank. So they don't look like they're supposed to be G1 guys. I was honestly thinking that they could be Jetstorm, Strika, and Obsidian. We're already getting Rhinox and Waspinator so that would explain Tankor and Thrust missing. That and the green and black doesn't really resemble a G1 color scheme. You need some light blues, grays, purples, and dark reds to be that.
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 SXS Toys Not-Blurr Huge shield kibble aside, I like it. Heads a wee small but it could be a weird angle.
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TheDK posted:This is what I thought as well. Looking forward to finding out more about that dimension/spark/whatever.
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TheDK posted:This is what I thought as well. Looking forward to finding out more about that dimension/spark/whatever. I highly recommend the yellow binoculars guy if you ever get a chance to pick him up. After I purged nearly all the 2007 movie stuff from my collection, that one and the Spyshot 6 are the two RealGear toys I made sure to keep.
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Any of y'all see the price tag on that Ultimetal Optimus? It's 78,000Yen http://blog.yahoo.com/_ED274AZGFINLESDVVHRADMVIMU/articles/1291725/index Makes sense though seeing how it's really big, really drat big
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