The Fighting Game Thread IV: Arcade Edition

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A Bystander: Oct 10, 2012

I just mash air Slash as Slayer in a vain attempt to get my opponent upset and make rash decisions so that I can punish them as a result.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:00

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 21:59

dangerdoom volvo: Nov 5, 2009

Dandy J posted:

Guilty gear is ok.

Jokes on you cus guilty gear isnt even out in europe. My statement stands, play no fighting game.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:03

Dandy J: May 17, 2003; macro machines

AC or +R? Cause the latter isn't out in America either lol.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:07

dangerdoom volvo: Nov 5, 2009

Dandy J posted:

AC or +R? Cause the latter isn't out in America either lol.

AC. Or both I guess but you know either or.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:40

Veib: Dec 10, 2007

AC is out in Europe on Xbox though, and apparently it even came out right after the Japanese release and before US release.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:49

dangerdoom volvo: Nov 5, 2009

Veib posted:

AC is out in Europe on Xbox though, and apparently it even came out right after the Japanese release and before US release.

Oh word? I thought everyone got it from you know different region accounts.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 22:55

rednecked_crake: Mar 17, 2012; srsly who wants to play this lamer?

I have AC on Xbox but no one plays it online so it was wasted money.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:10

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Play Third Strike forever, ignore all other fighting games

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:18

dangerdoom volvo: Nov 5, 2009

PLANES CURE TOWERS posted:

Play Third Strike forever, ignore all other fighting games

We were specifically talking about any hypothetically GOOD fighting games but yeah thanks for the input buddy.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:32

piratepilates: Mar 28, 2004; So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.

KOF98 is pretty good, it's got rockin beats and a fun cast.

But then again it has Choi, so I guess you're right.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:33

RickoniX: Dec 4, 2005; A human or elf?

NO NOT A BADGER YOU GOON

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future for Only Good Fighting Game 2013

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:36

Hace: Feb 13, 2012; <<Mobius 1, Engage.>>

piratepilates posted:

KOF98 is pretty good, it's got rockin beats and a fun cast.

But then again it has Choi, so I guess you're right.

Um but it's an OLD GAME, sorry but we don't need your archaic bullshit in here grandpa :rolleyes:

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:40

AnonSpore: Jan 19, 2012; "I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

piratepilates posted:

KOF98 is pretty good, it's got rockin beats and a fun cast.

But then again it has Choi, so I guess you're right.

98 Choi is nothing compared to 97 Choi. :colbert:

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:56

Broken Loose: Dec 25, 2002; PROGRAM
A > - - - LR > > - - LL > - - -

RickoniX posted:

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Heritage for the Future for Only Good Fighting Game 2013

This, but gently caress tick throws in that game.

# ? Sep 29, 2013 23:58

Six Of Spades: Oct 24, 2010; "...That too is according to my calculations."

I really enjoy large casts for the times when I have multiple friends who enjoy fightgames round, and we can do stuff like choose characters/teams based on a theme or other silly things.

And then I can play P4A or SG with a smaller cast and a better personal understanding of what characters do. Then, when that gets a bit tiresome I can do the former again.

It's not as though people only play a single fighting game, or play all fighting games with the same mindset. Or at least I hope not.

In that regard I think I could enjoy All Star Battle a whole lot. Shame I don't have a PS3.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 00:20

Question Mark Mound: Jun 14, 2006; Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

Saw there was a bunch of new posts, hoped it was big news like a new GGXrd announcement. Left disappointed.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 00:38

piratepilates: Mar 28, 2004; So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.

Question Mark Mound posted:

Saw there was a bunch of new posts, hoped it was big news like a new GGXrd announcement. Left disappointed.

Got a bit GG announcement for ya right here: the game sucks, play KOF13 or 98 or 2000 or 2002.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 00:38

El Estrago Bonito: Dec 17, 2010; Scout Finch Bitch

Does anyone know if oRyu's unblockable is still in the version of ST that's included in HDR?

I'm asking because I can't seem to get it to come out on SFIIX but it works on the anniversary edition for PS2 and for some reason I though that HDR was based on SFIIX but maybe Sirlin just worked on both of them.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 01:45

GabbiLB: Jul 14, 2004; ~toot~

What is this Deejay bullshit going on right now in CanadaCup??? This game has too many characters no one knows how to beat him!

# ? Sep 30, 2013 01:54

interrodactyl: Nov 8, 2011; you have no dignity

piratepilates posted:

Got a bit GG announcement for ya right here: the game sucks, play KOF13 or 98 or 2000 or 2002.

2000 is fun but holy poo poo that game is broken.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 02:14

Ghostpilot: Jun 22, 2007; "As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

interrodactyl posted:

2000 is fun but holy poo poo that game is broken.

It's pretty fun without the strikers; but with the strikers...man, they break the game clean in half.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 03:33

Max Wilco: Jan 23, 2012; I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

I don't mean to continue the roster argument, but aren't giant rosters a result of multiple sequels? Street Fighter 2 started out with 8 characters, but with the subsequent versions, the roster grew to 16 (not counting the old version characters). MK1 only had 7 characters, but MK2 had 12, and MK3 had 15, later 24 in UMK3.

On another note, is there a good starting point for the Tekken series? I'd been thinking about picking up TTT2, but it's been brought up that the game is really difficult. Is there an earlier entry that works better as a jumping-on point? I�ve read that Tekken 4 wasn�t very good, but thought about picking up Tekken 3 or Tekken 6, since both are pretty cheap now.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 04:01

texasmed: May 27, 2004

I think that the only way to get into a new game series is to play the most current version of it. No other versions will prepare you as well as the most current release, because then you'll get used to whatever frame data or nerf changes happened between games.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 04:14

Slip: Jan 20, 2001

Max Wilco posted:

I don't mean to continue the roster argument, but aren't giant rosters a result of multiple sequels? Street Fighter 2 started out with 8 characters, but with the subsequent versions, the roster grew to 16 (not counting the old version characters). MK1 only had 7 characters, but MK2 had 12, and MK3 had 15, later 24 in UMK3.

On another note, is there a good starting point for the Tekken series? I'd been thinking about picking up TTT2, but it's been brought up that the game is really difficult. Is there an earlier entry that works better as a jumping-on point? I�ve read that Tekken 4 wasn�t very good, but thought about picking up Tekken 3 or Tekken 6, since both are pretty cheap now.

I would suggest TTT2 because it has good, actually playable netcode. Tekken Revolution is F2P but is PS3 only and seems like its a bit of a sandbox for Namco to use for implementing new mechanics that may or may not make their way into the main series going forward.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 04:14

demons.: Apr 20, 2012

Join the Revolution... the Tekken Revolution.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 05:40

SuccinctAndPunchy: Mar 29, 2013; People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.

Max Wilco posted:

On another note, is there a good starting point for the Tekken series?

Probably the most recent, Tekken Tag 2 is your best bet. Fight Lab will teach you the very basics and nothing more. These games are hard and don't do poo poo in the tutorial department. Prepare to put work in to get anything out.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 07:05

Spuckuk: Aug 11, 2009; Being a bastard works

Redmark posted:

To take an extreme example: would fighting game tournaments become more skillful if, instead of isolating competition to specific games, we go the way of chess boxing? Wouldn't it take more skill if instead of being a specialist at a single game, you have to be good at SF4 and Marvel and KoF? It would, in a sense. But it's not what you signed up for.

Tokido would just win every tournament ever.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 11:17

Spuckuk: Aug 11, 2009; Being a bastard works

Max Wilco posted:

On another note, is there a good starting point for the Tekken series? I'd been thinking about picking up TTT2, but it's been brought up that the game is really difficult. Is there an earlier entry that works better as a jumping-on point? I�ve read that Tekken 4 wasn�t very good, but thought about picking up Tekken 3 or Tekken 6, since both are pretty cheap now.

TTT2

Yes, it's difficult to be good at. But it's a hell of a lot of fun to play at lower skill levels.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 11:51

Jmcrofts: Jan 7, 2008; just chillin' in the club; Lipstick Apathy

Spuckuk posted:

Tokido would just win every tournament ever.

I bet Xian would give him a run for his money.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 16:58

Brosnan: Nov 13, 2004; Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled; Lipstick Apathy

Spuckuk posted:

TTT2

Yes, it's difficult to be good at. But it's a hell of a lot of fun to play at lower skill levels.

Mostly because of "arcane" poo poo that people who want to be high level fast complain about having to learn.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 18:12

Dias: Feb 20, 2011; by sebmojo

Jmcrofts posted:

I bet Xian would give him a run for his money.

Chris G would be pretty beast too. Although I suppose he's not that good at 3D fighters.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 18:47

Soulcleaver: Sep 25, 2007; Murderer

piratepilates posted:

Got a bit GG announcement for ya right here: the game sucks, play KOF13 or 98 or 2000 or 2002.

That's a funny way of spelling KOF XI.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 18:57

Dandy J: May 17, 2003; macro machines

2000 is fine if you ban lin.

Brosnan posted:

Mostly because of "arcane" poo poo that people who want to be high level fast complain about having to learn.

Remember when you thought the GS break was 1+2? LOL

Dandy J fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Sep 30, 2013

# ? Sep 30, 2013 22:53

Brosnan: Nov 13, 2004; Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled; Lipstick Apathy

No, and also not sure if you thought that was a relevant point to Tekken being fun at low levels?

# ? Sep 30, 2013 23:27

ZerodotJander: Dec 29, 2004; Chinaman, explain!

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Does anyone know if oRyu's unblockable is still in the version of ST that's included in HDR?

I'm asking because I can't seem to get it to come out on SFIIX but it works on the anniversary edition for PS2 and for some reason I though that HDR was based on SFIIX but maybe Sirlin just worked on both of them.

I'm pretty sure it is, and that there's actually a dip switch setting to turn it off.

# ? Sep 30, 2013 23:46

Jmcrofts: Jan 7, 2008; just chillin' in the club; Lipstick Apathy

Did anyone ever figure out *why* that move is unblockable sometimes and whether there's a way to do it consistently or is it just random?

I'd have to guess it's similar to Sent's unblockable in mvc2, where a later frame of the move doesn't have the "force block" hitbox??

# ? Oct 1, 2013 00:14

General Morden: Mar 3, 2013; GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

Do any goons still play TTT2?

Trying my luck in this thread, because nobody seems to ever post in the TTT2 thread.

# ? Oct 1, 2013 00:22

rivals: Apr 5, 2004; REBIRTH OF HARDCORE PRIDE!

Jmcrofts posted:

Did anyone ever figure out *why* that move is unblockable sometimes and whether there's a way to do it consistently or is it just random?

IIRC it has to do with the frame skip. I don't remember the full explanation though.

# ? Oct 1, 2013 00:48

Mio Bison: Dec 14, 2005; violence is who I am, loser

I've heard two explanations, one is that it's just frame skipping nonsense, the second is that air tatsu is active on frame 1, it takes a frame to start your block and which player gets processed first in a frame is determined randomly so you get either "P1 Tatsu + P2 Block = Block" or "P2 Walks Back + P1 Tatsu = Hit". Both kinda make sense but I don't know why anyone would make up the latter so I'll go with that.

# ? Oct 1, 2013 01:54

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 21:59

Dandy J: May 17, 2003; macro machines

Brosnan posted:

No, and also not sure if you thought that was a relevant point to Tekken being fun at low levels?

Just pointing out that you yourself were a victim of Tekken's nonsensical design (from something that's been the same since T1 even, and is only mildly offensive as far as illogical design decisions go) and it's more or less the only fighting game you play, so you have no room to talk.

# ? Oct 1, 2013 03:23

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