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It's all either mission packs or cosmetics. So you can not pay anything afte rthat, it all depends on if you want more story/ability to be a pretty princess.
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Cheston posted:Dragon agents don't know anything. It's seriously canon that the handler who was sending us the good poo poo got 'disconnected,' and every mission report since has been just been space-filling "chaos, bro." Most of the good poo poo is from Bong Cha and she's still around 
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Fuzz posted:Saw that this is on Steam Sale and is now F2P after you buy... does the microtransaction and cash store stuff end up being required to play, or can you just straight up ignore it forever and not miss out on huge portions of endgame content? Hey, Fuzz. I've only been playing a few months and haven't got very far (I play casually with the gf) but I have to say that the game is fantastic. At some point you will (according to people here who've done the entire game) most likely want to buy some of the DLC "Issues" for the extra end-game content, but there's so much fun and value in the base game already, and none of the Issues are really required; they're just extra goodness that adds to the story. I hope more people buy this game, because it really is superb (also, you don't have to wait 2 years for it to be released!). PS Sending you a PM!
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The Issues that you can pay for are basically irrelevant to end game content. They're still very worth buying because they're very well written, voice acted, just plain good stories.
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Fuzz posted:Saw that this is on Steam Sale and is now F2P after you buy... does the microtransaction and cash store stuff end up being required to play, or can you just straight up ignore it forever and not miss out on huge portions of endgame content?
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Cleretic posted:There's one thing everyone can agree on, though: We have no goddamn clue what to make of the Dragon. Cleretic posted:My secondary theory is that the Dragon are full of poo poo, and take the sentence 'I meant to do that' to an absurd level. I still like your pet theory on the Dragon; it sums them up quite nicely.
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Sep 27, 2013 01:39
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There's evidence that the Dragon, not as its current organization but as a movement, goes back as far as the Second Era. They're not all knowing by any stretch of the imagination, but they're definitely not full of poo poo. Something is guiding them
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Sep 27, 2013 01:45
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The Dragon are a paradox: Depth through shallowness. They tell you of grand schemes, but the details are gibberish. You can only assume that the obscurity hides a larger plan, but they could just be pulling it out of their rear end as they go. They could be amateurs, but all they have to do is tease you with granules of a grand plan and you'll assume that they've got the whole universe down. The less they explain, the more you fill in, so their power isn't in their plan, it's in their power to drag you along thinking there's a plan waiting. There can only be one conclusion: The Dragon are Funcom's writers. OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sep 27, 2013 05:26
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The Dragon are full of poo poo and rule with a velvet glove. They talk about having models as if they've got hundreds of actuaries crunching numbers coming up with how things are going to go, but it's probably just all a crafted illusion and they've got someone (or more likely a shadow council) calling the shots from above. The Dragon's head probably don't like punching above their weight and prefer a style of subtly nudging/manipulating situations towards their favor and slowly accumulating power over the long term. All the Chaos theory bullshit is just that, bullshit. Designed to obfuscate and obscure the real power structure of the Dragon. E: 
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Sep 27, 2013 06:12
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Yeah, I'm near the end of the story line with Dragon and I still don't understand them. I wish I had rolled Illuminati. 
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Always be Illuminati. Kirsten Rules Everything Around Me K.R.E.A.M
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Brackhar posted:Yeah, I'm near the end of the story line with Dragon and I still don't understand them. I wish I had rolled Illuminati. It's pretty basic really. The Dragon are fascists, the same as the Templars, their end goal however is ruling you without you ever knowing you're being ruled. The ultimate illusion of choice, where all your choices are manufactured. There is no such thing as chaos. Only systems sufficiently complex as to appear to be chaotic.
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Fuzz posted:Saw that this is on Steam Sale and is now F2P after you buy... does the microtransaction and cash store stuff end up being required to play, or can you just straight up ignore it forever and not miss out on huge portions of endgame content? It's safe to ignore. It's mostly cosmetic and the occasional XP booster for a limited time. They have tied some of the new content into it but it's fairly cheap and ignoreable.
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Azubah posted:It's safe to ignore. It's mostly cosmetic and the occasional XP booster for a limited time. They have tied some of the new content into it but it's fairly cheap and ignoreable. Issue 7 shouldn't be considered ignorable by anybody. It was incredible story wise and is the first bit of setup for the next zone.
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Cheston posted:Hey, there's a giveaway on Curse right now, gets you a key for a hoodie if you click the button. This is also a trial key, so if lurkers are interested in trying the game out here is a good chance. Also any current members can also give out trial keys as well. Fuzz posted:Saw that this is on Steam Sale and is now F2P after you buy... does the microtransaction and cash store stuff end up being required to play, or can you just straight up ignore it forever and not miss out on huge portions of endgame content? There are some items on the cash shop that could be considered pay2win but really they are just pubbie traps and convenience items, I am talking specifically about the potions you can buy that can also be crafted in game. There are also exp boosts that either give you a flat amount of AP/SP or a timed exp received bonus, my opinion is that these are not very useful as the game shits exp at you after you leave Soloman Island but others have said they like the week boosts to knock out some of the grind. The DLC you can buy are worth the investment as the stories they present are interesting, well written and do a great job advancing the story. In addition they also introduce a new currency that can be exchanged for welfare epic gear and the final mission in each DLC grants a blue signet bag which can either be sold unopened on the auction house for anywhere from 1 - 2 million pax depending on the current event, or opened for a lovely lottery bag change of getting a good signet. If you don't care about the signet bag and currency rewards the DLC can be skipped, you can just watch all the mission cutscenes on Youtube or Unfair.co.  After you complete 30 missions Funcom gives you a gift of 1200 cash shop points, which is enough to pick up one of the DLC issue packs.With Issue 8 on the horizon I would suggest holding off on purchasing one of them, Issue 8 is supposedly the 'end game' Issue and the content of the DLC is going to have repeatable content for the new scenario system that is going to be introduced in Issue 8. Funcom has stated that there will be atleast one free scenario, but most will be sold as packs from the store.
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 To the detractors of idly jumping around: For some reason, it got me into the second floor of Emma's cabin. Not even a "you shouldn't be here" sign
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I found this while jumping around in the bunker from Issue 7 So not all is lost.
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Cheston I only bad talk your idle jumping when you do it from side to side in front of the cities in Agartha. Idle jumping is how you find lore in like 90% of the game.
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If I were to want to get back into doing end game dungeons with goons (I was still learning my way through elites when I stopped playing) is lurking mumble still the way to go?
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Anniversary posted:If I were to want to get back into doing end game dungeons with goons (I was still learning my way through elites when I stopped playing) is lurking mumble still the way to go? Ehhhhhhh it's not the worst way to go. I still lurk there and so does Hugh.
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He managed to make it out in September this time!Joel posted:September, what a month! So much going on, so little time to absorb it before moving on to the next thing. Events, Missions, Tokyo, Halloween, Scenarios, Augments, Voice Recording sessions... I'll try to break this madness down into semi coherent chunks for your benefit. New Halloween event sounds neat. And they're bringing back the Cat God. Joy. And where are they doing this testing at? It's certainly not testlive. Len fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 30, 2013 |
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Two letters from Joel in two days and both said a heap of poo poo. Go Team Go. Sources: Bi-Monthly Monthly Letter Here. Your Questions Asked and Avoided Here.
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HughGRect posted:Two letters from Joel in two days and both said a heap of poo poo. Go Team Go. Well he tells everyone that the dragon puzzle raid is never going to happen because there aren't enough dragons for a raid group. That's something.
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Len posted:And where are they doing this testing at? It's certainly not testlive. They have an internal QA server. Stuff goes there before it goes to Testlive. This has always been the case.
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macnbc posted:They have an internal QA server. Stuff goes there before it goes to Testlive. This has always been the case. Even patches go without testlive. The patch the pushed today and the one tomorrow not on testlive. Joel is still mum on pricing for the scenarios too. I just want to know if I can go negative on them like I can with Issue packs.
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At first this game treated me the same as a guildwars lookalike. But now I am utterly addicted to the investigation missions. They're fun thinking exercises and I'm having a blast. I am godawful at game mechanics, particularly tanking, though. Is it worth it to suffer the normal dungeons to gear up, or should I just press to QL10 greens and follow my friends into nightmares when the time comes?
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motoh posted:At first this game treated me the same as a guildwars lookalike. But now I am utterly addicted to the investigation missions. They're fun thinking exercises and I'm having a blast. I am godawful at game mechanics, particularly tanking, though. Is it worth it to suffer the normal dungeons to gear up, or should I just press to QL10 greens and follow my friends into nightmares when the time comes? Press through the story then run the elites. If you have a nightmare geared group run you through you'll end up in full blue gear which will help you finish Gatekeeper and get you into nightmares.
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After figuring out the crafting system and kitting myself out in blue-greens I realize I have no idea how the character statistics work and how to exploit them. I'm talking about Offensive/Defensive stats like Hit, Evade, Defence, etc. Are there some that I should try to put more or less points in because some are more or less useful? Or should I just try to put a bunch in everything in trying to create a well-rounded character? I'm some sort of Tank/DPS hybrid with Blade & Blood if that matters. Also, how do you contact goons in game? I've tried the /join awful chat a number of times, but no one seems to be on when I'm playing.
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Kumo posted:I'm talking about Offensive/Defensive stats like Hit, Evade, Defence, etc. Are there some that I should try to put more or less points in because some are more or less useful? Or should I just try to put a bunch in everything in trying to create a well-rounded character? Well, given your specialty, your most important stats are probably Penetration, Block, and Hit, with some for Magical/Physical Protection. Many of your abilities in those weapon trees will proc off of Penetrations, after all - and as a tank, you do NOT want to receive a bad penetrating hit. Block counters Penetration Defense counters Hit Glance/Evade tanks don't work all that well in late game, due to the spike damage you may receive - its usually better to be able to control the amount of damage you're getting so the healer isn't *too* stressed. quote:Also, how do you contact goons in game? I've tried the /join awful chat a number of times, but no one seems to be on when I'm playing. Have you tried using the Mumble? A number of goons hang out there.
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alfheimwanderer posted:Well, given your specialty, your most important stats are probably Penetration, Block, and Hit, with some for Magical/Physical Protection. Many of your abilities in those weapon trees will proc off of Penetrations, after all - and as a tank, you do NOT want to receive a bad penetrating hit. Thank you. quote:Have you tried using the Mumble? A number of goons hang out there. No mike/headset currently. Just finished building a gaming PC on spec and just got it running.
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Len posted:Well he tells everyone that the dragon puzzle raid is never going to happen because there aren't enough dragons for a raid group. That's something. We don't even have enough for a puzzle dungeon
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Cheston posted:We don't even have enough for a puzzle dungeon But at least we could recruit from the general population. If dragons do that it puts you at what 9?
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Kumo posted:After figuring out the crafting system and kitting myself out in blue-greens I realize I have no idea how the character statistics work and how to exploit them. Try not to rely on the crafting system for making your gear. While it is an available option it just also happens to be the worst one. Following the story and completing missions in the given area was how a number of us kept our gear up to date during the level grind, and for that oddball piece of gear hit up the auction house in London and get something there cheap. When you hit the QL10 mark that's when you should start chain running the elite dungeons to fill out your gear to prepare for Nightmares. My order of priority for stats is: (this is my opinion, others may have their own)
Your stat budget is so low in anything sub QL 10 blue gear that it gets pointless to spread around your stats to more then two things. But don't go out of your way to reglyph gear, it gets replaced so often that the stat game really doesn't kick in until your building your custom gear from doing Nightmare dungeons. Most of the regular goons lurk on mumble or steam when not in the game, which is more often then not currently. When Issue 8 hits goon interest should start up again with the new mindless grind for internet loots. You can do a search of the awful channel with a quick /chat list awful to see who is on in the channel. Don't worry too much about not having a mic while in mumble several of us talk via the text chatting.
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Len posted:But at least we could recruit from the general population. If dragons do that it puts you at what 9? Six or seven. That would require a raid group. The best part of that director's letter is finding out that duo versions of scenarios exist, and that there's a Nightmare Solo version. Those are both of the things I really wanted. Joel posted:The brand new Scenarios, our random event driven simulations, are now in their testing and feedback phase internally. All of the technology is in place and we are now balancing for Solo, Duo and Group sized versions, as well as a Nightmare difficulty for all group sizes.
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Cheston posted:Six or seven. That would require a raid group. Keep in mind these are being tested by Funcom people. Who are probably in full ql10.5 and having to use the duo version because it's too hard. I wouldn't trust their opinion on difficulty.
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Cheston posted:Six or seven. That would require a raid group. I'm looking forward to finding out which ones are impossible to complete because they didn't test anything but scripts again.
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HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA Look's like the person who submitted that outfit that the pubbies loved so much was disqualified. So we have a second chance to get this into the game:  Go Vote.
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HughGRect posted:HAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA That is loving brilliant. I wonder if I can submit my vote via testlive.
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Voted again. Can't believe "Ballistic Veil" is in second -- what a boring, uninspired piece of poo poo. At least the one that's winning right now (Psychiatric Patient) is a little more creative. All the options for women's clothing still look boring to me.
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