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I ran into these two bugs while upgrading my test vcenter instance from 5.1 to 5.5. It's a pretty simple test environment, I suspect others might find the same issues. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2059481 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2060511
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ok so I am setting up a horrible environment that will be literally a single server with ESXi on it running the free license. OK to put esxi 5.5 on it?
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Sure. I would choose 5.5 especially if you'll have more than 32GB of RAM.
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Posted this in the wrong thread, this looks like a better spot for this question: Anyone have any experience with vMware VMDK mounted over NFS and Exchange? I know MS doesn't support using a NAS with NFS for exchange, but does that just mean they haven't given it their blessing or does it mean there are actual performance consequences to doing it? Most of our environment is not on exchange but we still have a small 2010 exchange server with 30 users on it thats running on an old esxi 4 host using a local datastore on the host, while everything else we have is on an vsphere 5 environment with netapp shared storage over NFS. Would migrating the exchange box to a NFS datastore break anything or is this just MS dragging their feet approving new(old) storage methods?
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I just got a call from Stanly Community College, they're offering another class, and you have to register by tomorrow. So check your spam filters and don't automatically ignore a phone call from the 704 area code.
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Oct 1, 2013 21:58
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FISHMANPET posted:I just got a call from Stanly Community College, they're offering another class, and you have to register by tomorrow. So check your spam filters and don't automatically ignore a phone call from the 704 area code. Ditto, just signed up via the form (that was marked as spam).
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three posted:Here is a good article from Chris Wahl on CPU Hot Plug effects: http://wahlnetwork.com/2013/08/21/cpu-hot-plug-effects-on-vsphere-vcpu-count/ If hot add CPU disables vNUMA, I wouldn't use it on any large VMs. (And your large VMs are most likely to be your most sensitive VMs anyway, right) I can live with an extra memory hit from allowing hot memory add if I'd get to rightsize the vast majority of our VMs. I think hot CPU add is a lot trickier with per socket licenses potentially causing problems.
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whaam posted:Posted this in the wrong thread, this looks like a better spot for this question: IIRC VMware only supports up to NFSv3 so keep that in mind when deploying things on NFS.
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So early next year my support runs out on our MD3000i and MD3200i and 3 of our servers, other than one controller going bad and getting replaced next day, we haven't run into any issues with the MD3xxx's. We run about 20 VM's on a combination of 6 Win2k8 and 2012 servers using Hyper-V, and currently nothing is clustered. Since we are a specialized industry 12 of our servers are still running Win2k3 Standard and will for the next 1-2 years until they come out with their next major release. (I have zero doubts that I could run all 20 on two newer servers) I plan on moving everything over to VMWare early next year, and am looking at the Essentials Plus w/ VSA plus Veeam to run backups. (I figure I can use one of the MD3xxx to house backups.) My question is, would I be better off getting a new MD3xxx SAN and some R620's and continuing similar to how I am now, or just getting 3 beefier R720's and using the VSA?
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:ok so I am setting up a horrible environment that will be literally a single server with ESXi on it running the free license. OK to put esxi 5.5 on it? Is dell's 5.5 ISO out? usually it takes a while for them to release it.
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Bankok posted:So early next year my support runs out on our MD3000i and MD3200i and 3 of our servers, other than one controller going bad and getting replaced next day, we haven't run into any issues with the MD3xxx's. We run about 20 VM's on a combination of 6 Win2k8 and 2012 servers using Hyper-V, and currently nothing is clustered. Since we are a specialized industry 12 of our servers are still running Win2k3 Standard and will for the next 1-2 years until they come out with their next major release. (I have zero doubts that I could run all 20 on two newer servers) Just don't use the VSA, it is poo poo vSAN's is cool but VSA sucks. What servers are you running? Are they fitting your needs? I am all for cramming new hardware in where you can but you would be surprised how large a role storage has on the overall performance of a virtual environment. Also what catches your eye on the R620 and not the R420/520?
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Is dell's 5.5 ISO out? usually it takes a while for them to release it. I don't know, I just used the standard iso from vmware on a proliant.
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NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:I don't know, I just used the standard iso from vmware on a proliant. Whoops got dell in my head for some reason. Side note: Any reason why you don't use the vendor ISO? Also anyone doing anything cool? Mostly my side hobby, told my current design is "really good" but I think it can be a lot better High level logical overview of a design I am doing  Looking to do some mock defense or talk over if any goons want to, any vmware level is appreciated. I plan to implement this in a few months. some things are missing in this visio but it would be too chaotic drawing everything on one, currently on page 7 Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Oct 2, 2013 |
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Just don't use the VSA, it is poo poo vSAN's is cool but VSA sucks. 12 of the servers are running Win2k3, and to be honest other than the one running a SQL2000 DB and maybe a couple others, they are all very light load. Of the other 9 servers running Win2k8 R2, other than the one running Exchange 2010, everything is very light to moderate loads. The reason for the 620 is I currently have 2 I got last year, so I would buy 2 new R620's and then add RAM to one of the old ones for my cluster.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Whoops got dell in my head for some reason. No good reason I just didn't need it in this instance and I had the vanilla iso already burned.
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Bankok posted:12 of the servers are running Win2k3, and to be honest other than the one running a SQL2000 DB and maybe a couple others, they are all very light load. Of the other 9 servers running Win2k8 R2, other than the one running Exchange 2010, everything is very light to moderate loads. Essentials plus has a 3 host max FYI, Standard Acceleration kit has no host limit but 6 proc's just FYI. So you could only order 1 more R620 to fit ESS+. Honestly I would weigh in more on the san if you aren't seeing CPU contention, and buff ram, then invest in updating any SAN/Switching and repurpose what you have. What I might do is get another R620 Buff the ram in each so you run for failover and growth, grab ESS+ and a -not- dell san Look in 3Par, Nettapp, EMC, or, last and least, bust Dell/EQlogic's balls on something nice. The drawback is ESS+ has a 3 host limit and is non up gradable, so you have to buy all new licensing if you need any feature standard or above. What would your ballpark budget be?
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I probably need to keep it around 35-40k for hardware. I don't think I'll really need to go above 6 processors anytime in the near future, which was why I looked at Essential Plus Kit, moving up to Standard Acceleration Kit is another 8-10k.
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Bankok posted:I probably need to keep it around 35-40k for hardware. 35K will get you a nice upgrade, yeah an R620 for a third host would be a smart move. I would look into some offerings by EMC/Nettapp. Just remember when you speak to a VAR mention you are shopping around and you want to see how $DEVICE$ competes against $competitor$. Keep in mind vSphere standard has some cool things like storage vMotion and Hot Add which ess+ doesn't
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DevNull posted:I've seen bigger. DRS has always been set to fully-automated on that cluster so I'm not surprised it's that high. El_Matarife posted:If hot add CPU disables vNUMA, I wouldn't use it on any large VMs. (And your large VMs are most likely to be your most sensitive VMs anyway, right) I can live with an extra memory hit from allowing hot memory add if I'd get to rightsize the vast majority of our VMs. From what I've just read vNUMA is really only enabled by default on a VM when it has been allocated 8 or more vCPUs. At a glance we only have one VM which has 8 vCPUs and that is one of the legacy ones which already has CPU and memory hot-plug disabled. I'm not even sure why that VM has 8 vCPUs as it is only running HP NPM. Also correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that you have to have the EVC mode set to at least Nehalem generation to even take advantage of vNUMA so for our older cluster that is set to Merom generation it isn't really a problem.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:I would look into some offerings by EMC/Nettapp. Expanding on Dilbert here. What are your storage size and performance needs. Backup/replication?
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Moey posted:Expanding on Dilbert here. Right now we have about 3.5 TB of data, our growth seems to be about 300GB-500GB a year currently. Let me break it down a bit further: I run a two man IT shop at a small casino. There are 11 servers for the casino software. One server runs a SQL2000DB, this is really my only "I'm hosed" if this goes down server. The other 10 servers run one or two services to help distribute the processing off of the DB Server, these servers have a very light load and also never ever change other than OS Updates. Other than the DB, every other server I can replace currently now in about 30 minutes with little or no issues. (There used to be only the DB and one other server which handled all the slot machine transactions, but larger casinos were having issues with the DB getting bogged down which is why the software company started moving as much of the processing as they could to other servers. They did this in waves over the last 5-7 years which is why I have the hodgepodge hyper-v environment I have now.) Backoffice I have 9 other servers such as the domain controllers, exchange, anti-virus, file, print, etc.. We are pretty small, our backoffice is 35-45 users. Currently we use Unitrends and all servers are backed up fully each week, with daily differentials. SQL is backed up fully each day with hourly TX logs. Important server backups are replicated to another Unitrends box about 100 yards away in a different building. I don't mind Unitrends, it can be a bit wonky at times to set up, but it's worked pretty well for the last 2 years.
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Is dell's 5.5 ISO out? usually it takes a while for them to release it. Last I looked at a Dell VMware ISO, they listed the source for all their driver packages as VMware.com which made me think I could probably take an off the shelf 5.1.1157734 ISO and use it after integrating PowerPath. Am I crazy?
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So I was dicking around today and wanted to see if I could register for the VCP5-DCV exam, and VMware let me, so I'm guessing they have record of my classroom training in their system? I have the ready to schedule email from them and could get to the payment screen for pearson vue
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You can take the test without taking the class, you just have to have both before you can get the cert.
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Is the VCP "versioned" like MS certs, like I get a VCP 5.5 or whatever depending on when I take it? I'm waitlisted on that Stanley Community College course for the spring semester, but I signed up forever ago when I still worked with VMware on a daily basis. The new gig is a KVM shop and I don't intend to leave anytime soon. I'm feeling less enthusiastic about taking the VCP if mine will be way outdated whenever I reenter the job market (hopefully) way down the line.
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I believe the cert changes only when a new major release comes out. So VCP5 is good until VCP6 comes out, at which point should be able to take an upgrade course. However looking at the upgrade path from VCP4 to VCP5, the upgrade class is $2500, so unless work is paying for it you'll just probably end up going through Vsphere 6 ICM again.
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FISHMANPET posted:You can take the test without taking the class, you just have to have both before you can get the cert. I found something online saying they changed this. Anyone confirm/deny? Edit: http://vmwaretraining.blogspot.com/2013/07/vmware-certifications-registration.html?m=1 skipdogg fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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cheese-cube posted:Can we have a biggest-cluster dick waving contest? I'll play:  This is one of three roughly identical virtual environments in data centers for the organization I'm currently consulting for as an infrastructure architect. The three data centers combined have over thirty ESX hosts, with over eight hundred cores serving two terahertz of CPU. 12TB of RAM and close to a PB of storage for virtual hosts alone.
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FISHMANPET posted:I believe the cert changes only when a new major release comes out. So VCP5 is good until VCP6 comes out, at which point should be able to take an upgrade course. I thought you weren't required to take an upgrade class. That price is totally completely ridiculous for what it's worth, the optimize and scale class is far cheaper and preps you for VCAP-DCA. Speaking of, I just took my first prep exam from the VCAP-DCD Official Cert guide and got a 392 with a passing score of 300. I assume now I can tackle the multiple choice portion, but how bad is the Visio style network diagramming going to hurt? I hear it usually takes two tries to pass.
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The official website says the What's New course is required to upgrade: http://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/plan.cfm?plan=12457&ui=www
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Agrikk posted:I'll play: God drat. Out of interest what are the hosts?
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FISHMANPET posted:I believe the cert changes only when a new major release comes out. So VCP5 is good until VCP6 comes out, at which point should be able to take an upgrade course. Or you could take a different class like the trouble shooing class instead of ICM, then at least you might learn something new, assuming you are using VMware in the interim and have not forgotten everything from ICM.
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Is there a recommended set of hardware to build a whitebox ESX or ESXi host? I'm looking to virtualize a JunOS Olive lab & also run a few other things like Cisco ACS.
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inignot posted:Is there a recommended set of hardware to build a whitebox ESX or ESXi host? Check out the Home Lab Thread, there's a bunch of discussion of exactly that.
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cheese-cube posted:God drat. Out of interest what are the hosts? Mostly these:  I would love to get these things folding for a week. Just one week. My PPD would be absolutely retarded.
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The School lab I work with
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FISHMANPET posted:The official website says the What's New course is required to upgrade: IIRC when they do a version change they give a relatively short window (like 3-4 months) that you can take the next level without a class.
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Agrikk posted:Mostly these: My number is bigger than yours.  
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So looking at VCAP-DCD and VCAP-DCA, there's no training requirement beyond what's required to get the VCP5-DCV, correct? I assume it's more complicated than just blindly walking into the test though, right?
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FISHMANPET posted:So looking at VCAP-DCD and VCAP-DCA, there's no training requirement beyond what's required to get the VCP5-DCV, correct? I assume it's more complicated than just blindly walking into the test though, right? Correct it is not required, the VCAP-DCA is lab based exam and is 4 hours it's a really good exam, but not easy. DCD is more of a mind set linking products to solutions, and design considerations. VCAP-DCA - Technical/Administration VCAP-DCD - Consult/Design.
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