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Hey, that's what I just said. You and me both, python-pattern-but-in-gold buddy!   Does anybody have recommendations for calligraphy books? I'm into all kinds of western (and eastern) styles of calligraphy. For now, I've got myself a cheap oblique pointed pen and want to learn things like Spencerian Script and Round Hand. Yoshi Jjang fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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IAMPETH has some PDFs of original copybooks, if you wanna see how young'uns learned in the way back. I cribbed my Ladies' Spencerian from there before modifying it with a touch of Vere Foster.
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Sep 28, 2013 19:05
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Here's the comparison of Syrah and Tiananmen that you requested.  The paper is Clairefontaine
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Sep 28, 2013 20:08
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Edmond Dantes posted:Has anyone had the chance to try out both Diamine Syrah and Noodler's Tiananmen? I was trying to decide between Ancient Copper and Syrah, but after watching a video review for Syrah, it looks like it's quite similar to Tiananmen (which I already have), only a wee bit darker, which would make it a bit silly. I've used Syrah, and it really does look like wine on the paper. I can't compare it to Tiananmen though
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Sep 28, 2013 20:31
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lady flash posted:Here's the comparison of Syrah and Tiananmen that you requested. Thanks for taking the time to do that, it really helped see the difference. Duro posted:I've used Syrah, and it really does look like wine on the paper. I can't compare it to Tiananmen though Yeah, it does seem to be quite different than what I gathered from the swabs at the page... I did compare them from my work computer though, and something tells me they're not color-calibrated. I talked to a friend of mine who's going to be bringing me some stuff over from the states, and I'll probably end up buying Syrah and Ancient Copper... And another pen. Ink for the Ink God! 
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Sep 29, 2013 01:18
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I think someone asked about maroon/beetroot-ish inks a while back? Here's a wee sample of Noodler's Saguaro Wine:
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Sep 29, 2013 01:27
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:I think someone asked about maroon/beetroot-ish inks a while back? Here's a wee sample of Noodler's Saguaro Wine:  Your writing's beautiful.
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Sep 29, 2013 02:35
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:I think someone asked about maroon/beetroot-ish inks a while back? Here's a wee sample of Noodler's Saguaro Wine: What! How do you get writing like that!? I want to get some writing like that. Also, what pen/nib?
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Sep 29, 2013 03:15
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I used to find it amusing that all the handwriting posted in here was chicken-scratch garbage but ChickenOfTomorrow just torpedoed that.
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Sep 29, 2013 08:11
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Double-posting to recommend the TWSBI Vac 20 ink bottle to anyone else who owns a TWSBI Vac 700 pen. It has a screw cap that the Vac 700 screws into, so the entire bottle can be turned upside down without any leaks. This makes it way easier to fill the pen, especially if you like to fill the barrel all the way without that annoying air gap. It also means the grip doesn't go into the bottle so you only have to clean the nib when you're done. The bottle's fairly small as well - about the size of a 9V battery - which makes it good for transporting around. I keep mine in my bag, filled with whatever my current ink is so I can refill at work if need be. Demo video from Goulet Pens here.
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Sep 29, 2013 16:14
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Aw, thanks! The depressing answer is - practice. Grab a copybook or guide you like, and practice regularly. Stick with it. My writing was fairly legible when I started about a year ago, but it had no consistency. These days it's still not where I want it to be, but much much better. The pen's a Mabie Todd twist-filler. Mabie Todd nibs are infinitely variable even within the same type of pen, but the one in there I'd say is semi-flex.
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Sep 29, 2013 17:37
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duckfarts posted:Anybody know of any budget dip pens, preferably for calligraphy? I found a sweet pen shop that sells some http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ranga-New-Handmade-Beautiful-Ebonite-Dip-Pen-Model1-/130978828374?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e7ef25056 These are supposed to have a pretty nice nib, and are only $18. They also have a ebonite feed so you can write more than half a page with one dip.
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I don't have any shaving cream since I use an electric razor, but does anyone wanna see if this trick will work for inky hands? http://lifehacker.com/clean-stubborn-stains-off-your-hands-with-shaving-cream-1422434840
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I just ordered some Varsity disposable fountain pens by Pilot, thought i would give some cheaper ones a try before going to get a nicer one. Looking forward to how it turns out.
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droneboat609 posted:I just ordered some Varsity disposable fountain pens by Pilot, thought i would give some cheaper ones a try before going to get a nicer one. Looking forward to how it turns out. You'll be just like us soooon!
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Sep 30, 2013 15:00
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SnakesRevenge posted:You'll be just like us soooon! Fountain pens: Not even once. The Pilot Metropolitan is a gateway pen.
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Sep 30, 2013 15:20
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SnakesRevenge posted:You'll be just like us soooon! You're doomed. I was just like you a couple months ago. Now I have a couple pens and a pile of ink samples. DOOOMED! edit: I really need to find ways to write more.
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Sep 30, 2013 17:33
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Thats why I am sort of excited to be doomed  ive always preferred hand writing over typing, sadly most schools/universities will not accept a hand written paper anymore. 
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Sep 30, 2013 17:59
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droneboat609 posted:Thats why I am sort of excited to be doomed I too really prefer handwriting assignments than typing them up on a computer, and fortunately my university will still happily take most assignments handwritten with an exception being a dissertation. Unfortunately my handwriting sucks so I can't handwrite my assignments for the fear of it not being legible 
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Demon_Corsair posted:edit: I really need to find ways to write more. Whenever you're at a desk or something just have paper there and write, doodle, whatever. I find it helps me practice my technique while also helping me think. I get fidgety when I'm bored so it's also good to have something to occupy my hands
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TopherCStone posted:Whenever you're at a desk or something just have paper there and write, doodle, whatever. I find it helps me practice my technique while also helping me think. I get fidgety when I'm bored so it's also good to have something to occupy my hands Pretty much this. I always keep a Rhodia dotpad on my desk at work to doodle on our make quick notes with. I'd probably have trouble functioning without it, really.
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Demon_Corsair posted:I really need to find ways to write more. Once in a blue moon I'm tasked with writing something for work and I do the first draft by hand on a legal pad so I don't get distracted. Definitely doesn't do much for my penmanship since I'm on a deadline when I do that, though. I've also been brushing up on a foreign language. Nothing like repetitious writing to help with rote memorization.
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I'm left handed and was initially told (erroneously) that it was harder for lefties to write with fountain pens. So, I decided to learn to write with my right hand and become ambidextrous. Also, my left hand writing was illegible due to never being taught the correct way to hold a pen and write (I did the hook/claw thing my whole life). So, I spent several months this year practicing writing with my right hand and also relearning how to write with my left hand. This gave me an excuse to practice writing with my new FP's. Now my handwriting has gone from being illegible to merely being atrocious. I also tend to jot down notes or write stuff out longhand instead of typing them whenever possible. I tend to keep a Rhodia notepad with me in the office and one of the mini Rhodia Webnotepads in my pockets at all times.
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Just ordered a Noodler's Ahab and some Black Swan in English Roses ink: should be a great combo for writing my Christmas cards this year! As for writing more, I do about 20-30 sides of A4 a day at work and actually find that it gets tiring doing that much writing with a fountain pen. I usually end up switching to a ballpoint towards the end for speed. TWSBI make a great ballpoint pen with a nice heft to it despite being very skinny. Lamy 2000 ballpoint is good too with a lovely feel.
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Is there any way to fix nib creep? Or should I just never put Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue in my Metro ever again? Also, in my new Plumix the feed and nib come out really easily, but I still haven't gotten the feed out of my Metro. It's amazing how much more ink cleaned out. However, there is a lot of ink inside the section just before the nib and feed exit the pen. Is this normal? I can attach a photo later if need be.
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milpreve posted:Is there any way to fix nib creep? Or should I just never put Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue in my Metro ever again? It kind of is, ink gets up where the cartridge/converter fits in and it's way noticeable with the clear section. I was able to clean mine decently well with a blunt tip syringe I usually use for ink and a bit of patience.
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milpreve posted:Is there any way to fix nib creep? Or should I just never put Noodler's Upper Ganges Blue in my Metro ever again? Each Noodler's ink I've tried (X feather, HOD, Black, 54th) have all had nib creep on my Safari nib. I tried Tsuki-Yo and had zero nib creep even when dropping the pen. I've just learned to accept it unfortunately as it takes way too long trying to perfectly wipe off the excess ink without drawing more out all to do it again a day later.
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JP Money posted:Each Noodler's ink I've tried (X feather, HOD, Black, 54th) have all had nib creep on my Safari nib. I tried Tsuki-Yo and had zero nib creep even when dropping the pen. I've just learned to accept it unfortunately as it takes way too long trying to perfectly wipe off the excess ink without drawing more out all to do it again a day later. Grumble... I got UG and 54th to use in clinic, since they are bulletproof. No issues with HoD in my Preppy, so maybe I'll get a nice-looking Platinum, maybe a Plasir, for clinic. I did get a compliment today from an older gentleman, he hadn't used a "real ink pen" in years.
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TWSBI just posted a bunch of  Rose Gold Diamond 580  Black Eco  Vac Mini  TWSBI "Classic" If that happens to be a metal body for the last one, I'm totally sold.
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Anyone here have experience with the Lamey line of pens? ive been looking at some of their fountain pens and they seem like a nice model I could use every day at work and not worry about loosing it/breaking, plus they seem to have nice clips on them.
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droneboat609 posted:Anyone here have experience with the Lamey line of pens? ive been looking at some of their fountain pens and they seem like a nice model I could use every day at work and not worry about loosing it/breaking, plus they seem to have nice clips on them. Sure! I started out with a Pilot Varsity disposable fountain pen and then moved on to a Lamy Safari. I love the pen. It writes very well and is very durable. You can get them for $20-25 easily off Amazon or something. I basically never use the clip but it's pretty sturdy. Clips pretty securely onto a pocket or front of a notebook. I'd recommend you go for either a medium or fine nib. My extra fine nib can be kind of a pain if you're drawing lines or something as it can run out of ink if you don't go slow. I really prefer thin lines though so YMMV.
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JP Money posted:Sure! I started out with a Pilot Varsity disposable fountain pen and then moved on to a Lamy Safari. I love the pen. It writes very well and is very durable. You can get them for $20-25 easily off Amazon or something. Yeah this friday my pilot varsities should arrive and that will be my first try with fountain pens if all goes well and I like the feel I was looking at the safari or the all star by lamey
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droneboat609 posted:Anyone here have experience with the Lamey line of pens? ive been looking at some of their fountain pens and they seem like a nice model I could use every day at work and not worry about loosing it/breaking, plus they seem to have nice clips on them. I started off with a LAMY Vista (the clear/demonstrator) and a Lamy Safari as my very first 2 fountain pens. They are not bad pens by any shot and they do make pretty good "workhorse" and starter pens. However, that triangular grip really annoyed me. I am a natural lefty who has recently become ambidextrous and I had real trouble writing with it with my left hand, and it was still not comfortable in my right hand. I also was not a fan of that nib. But that's just me-lots of people love them and swear by them I did hang onto them "just in case", storing them uninked. I much prefer the Pilot Metro. I think you can get them for around $15 books these days, and thye seem to me to outshine the LAMY Safari/Vista in every way. Aesthetically beautiful, nice shape and grip, good weight, gteat nib, writes like a pen that you might pay $100 for. I honestly can't recommend it enough. I carry my Metro everywhere I go (along with my TWSBI 580 and VAC700).
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Solkanar512 posted:
Apparently this pen is supposed to be a version of the IROC 850 for "everybody" that will be out shortly. wodan22 posted:I started off with a LAMY Vista (the clear/demonstrator) and a Lamy Safari as my very first 2 fountain pens. They are not bad pens by any shot and they do make pretty good "workhorse" and starter pens. However, that triangular grip really annoyed me. I am a natural lefty who has recently become ambidextrous and I had real trouble writing with it with my left hand, and it was still not comfortable in my right hand. I also was not a fan of that nib. But that's just me-lots of people love them and swear by them I did hang onto them "just in case", storing them uninked. I can't say enough awesome things about the Metro, though I believe the fact that the nib is medium (a heavy fine, really) goes a long way in making the pen really, really smooth. Either way, it's a brilliant gateway drug for new collectors. I really hope they continue to update the styles on a regular basis. The thing I just can't get past on the Safari is the fact that you have this largish pen with only a converter option. You can't even convert them because of the cut-out window on the side. It feels like a huge waste of space to me.
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It's why the killer Lamy is still the flagship 2000. Piston-filler, massive capacity, great nib, great design, impeccable reliability. I only gave it up because even an EF is too wide for writing in Asian languages daily.
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I really wish the Lamy 2000 had italic nibs available. It's too expensive to justify grinding a nib to an angle.
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Is the safari a large pen? I don't think it is when you compare it to, well, almost any other pen. I dislike most fountain pens because they're so wide and bulbous that it feels awkward writing with it. The Safari triangle grip keeps my writing consistent and it's pretty slim so I don't feel like I'm writing with a tree branch.
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JP Money posted:Is the safari a large pen? I don't think it is when you compare it to, well, almost any other pen. I dislike most fountain pens because they're so wide and bulbous that it feels awkward writing with it. The Safari triangle grip keeps my writing consistent and it's pretty slim so I don't feel like I'm writing with a tree branch.
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I guess I never noticed that it's a "long" pen but that article actually shows me that it is. I still stand by other pens being bulkier width-wise but you're totally right in that it's longer than most pens. I don't post my cap so maybe that's why I never really noticed. I will 100% back up the converter being too small really. The attached pic shows how much space they wasted in this stupid design. They could very, very easily double the ink capacity for the Safari by just making the red portion of the converter much smaller. 
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JP Money posted:I guess I never noticed that it's a "long" pen but that article actually shows me that it is. I still stand by other pens being bulkier width-wise but you're totally right in that it's longer than most pens. I don't post my cap so maybe that's why I never really noticed. The red portion is what holds the rest of the piston when you screw it in. It pretty much fills the space exactly when the converter is full. They could improve the design a little, but for however much you increase the ink reservoir, you also have to lengthen the piston by just as much. 
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