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For those who have them, how are the keyboards on the Latitude e7440s?
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Martytoof posted:Ah bien! Thanks, that helps. Still debating the 410 but if I do it's nice to know it's not too difficult. Martytoof posted:Are the red keyboard and speaker accents less garish looking in person? They're about the only thing putting me off a Y410p right now. I think I'm just going to get a T430s and call it a day Don't get the T430s; it's more expensive than the Y410p and is objectively a worse laptop in a lot of ways (previous gen processor, previous gen graphics, lower resolution screen). If you dislike the keyboard backlighting (which I don't even notice) then you can disable it
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Oct 3, 2013 05:30
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This is a y410p with the backlight off:
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Oct 3, 2013 05:44
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QuarkJets posted:Don't get the T430s; it's more expensive than the Y410p and is objectively a worse laptop in a lot of ways (previous gen processor, previous gen graphics, lower resolution screen). They're both 1366x768 or 1600x900 only
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Oct 3, 2013 06:56
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How customizable are touchpads nowadays? My 4 year old Sony laptop has this nifty function where you can scroll as if using the iPod's clickwheel. Put your finger on the right side of the touchpad and just draw circles. It's awesome and I'm wondering if the stuff on the market can be customized to work like that.
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Oct 3, 2013 08:21
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Yeah they can be customized that way. There's a bunch of options usually.
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Oct 3, 2013 08:23
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I'm getting pretty close to deciding between a Macbook Air and something like the ASUS ZENBOOK UX31E. The 13" size, thinness and SSD are really appealing for both. I guess it comes down to preference of OS, really, doesn't it? I've been told by friends "just get an ex-lease Dell or something", but something with a nice metal body and being capable of 720p/1080p video on the laptop or connected to an HDTV is really preferable. Doing that and being able to carry around something fairly small and light in a backpack for uni would be perfect. Is there anything out there I might be ignoring out of brand preference / being generally ignorant?
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Oct 3, 2013 09:56
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The insane battery life on the 13" MBA shouldn't be overlooked.
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Oct 3, 2013 10:03
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More info on that XPS 15: http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-xps-15-brochure.pdf A MPBr challenger appears. Strange you can only get the big battery with the SSD though. And the XPS 13: http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/corporate/secure/en/Documents/dell-xps-13-brochure.pdf
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Oct 3, 2013 14:15
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Seamonster posted:A MPBr challenger appears. Strange you can only get the big battery with the SSD though. Yeah, Dell seems to like to bundle feature upgrades you want with ones you probably don't need.
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Oct 3, 2013 14:25
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, Dell's way of doing things is certainly more obtuse. "Large battery for SSD, small battery for 5200rpm poors  "
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Oct 3, 2013 14:59
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The 12h battery life on the air is nuts. I bought one to try out, and with how much I'm in class I can get away with only charging it every couple of days.
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Oct 3, 2013 15:33
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What kind of battery life are people getting on the y410p when just surfing? Anyone here previously owned a u410? How was it?
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Oct 3, 2013 17:41
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mugrim posted:What kind of battery life are people getting on the y410p when just surfing? Anyone here previously owned a u410? How was it? From my estimates, it looks like it should be around 4 hours. I just haven't really tried it though as I don't use my y410p for web browsing. It's purely a couch gaming machine for me.
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Oct 3, 2013 17:51
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Doctor Albatross posted:I'm getting pretty close to deciding between a Macbook Air and something like the ASUS ZENBOOK UX31E. The 13" size, thinness and SSD are really appealing for both. I guess it comes down to preference of OS, really, doesn't it? I've been told by friends "just get an ex-lease Dell or something", but something with a nice metal body and being capable of 720p/1080p video on the laptop or connected to an HDTV is really preferable. Doing that and being able to carry around something fairly small and light in a backpack for uni would be perfect. Is there anything out there I might be ignoring out of brand preference / being generally ignorant? I just got a MacBook Air 13 and I loving love it. The battery life and build quality is seriously incredible; I flew from Philadelphia to Los Angeles and used it the entire time and still had half battery left. The only negative is the lovely TN screen, but I've been spoiled with IPS panels on my home and work computers. Hopefully next year they'll introduce a high resolution IPS panel for the Air...hopefully 
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Oct 3, 2013 17:56
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Ugg, it looks like the x240 has touch buttons ala Apple instead of actual mouse buttons. Does anyone like these? (I know the answer is yes.) Why can't anyone make a laptop with a good keyboard and no bone-headed dealbreakers. vvvvvv I don't use the touchpad and would prefer a laptop that didn't have one at all like the X60. I understand not accommodating that, but I feel like no physical buttons is a big loss. Maybe you can disable the touchpad moving the mouse pointer and only use it as buttons. Jeffrey of YOSPOS fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 18:18
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Jeffrey posted:Ugg, it looks like the x240 has touch buttons ala Apple instead of actual mouse buttons. Does anyone like these? (I know the answer is yes.) Why can't anyone make a laptop with a good keyboard and no bone-headed dealbreakers. Tap to click owns. More space for touchpad when you ditch the buttons.
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Oct 3, 2013 18:28
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My wife needs a new, light laptop for work...nothing heavier than Powerpoint. Can anyone suggest something with decent build quality under $600 or so? She doesn't want a Mac or Chromebook (I have both, go figure).
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Oct 3, 2013 19:14
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mugrim posted:What kind of battery life are people getting on the y410p when just surfing? Anyone here previously owned a u410? How was it? Mine does about 3 and a half hours on web surfing at 70% brightness.
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Oct 3, 2013 19:17
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This is kind of interesting. Bay Trail (atom i.e. x86-64) processor, Win 8.1 Pro, 1280x800 screen. Looks a lot like an 8" Samsung Tab or Samsung Note, except it's an entire computer. Price isn't half bad considering what it is. $300 http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/dell-venue-8-pro/4505-3126_7-35828030.html  
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Oct 3, 2013 20:59
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QuarkJets posted:Don't get the T430s; it's more expensive than the Y410p and is objectively a worse laptop in a lot of ways (previous gen processor, previous gen graphics, lower resolution screen). If you dislike the keyboard backlighting (which I don't even notice) then you can disable it Unfortunately the battery life is going to be what kills the y410 for me :\
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Oct 3, 2013 21:18
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What's the difference between the ASUS BX31LA ZENBOOK Prime and the ASUS UX31LA ZENBOOK Prime? What's the consensus on the Zenbooks anyway? Are they sturdy enough to get carried around in a bag with books and stuff every day?
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Oct 3, 2013 21:23
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Martytoof posted:Unfortunately the battery life is going to be what kills the y410 for me :\ The T430s isn't much better then - its barely 4h off the six cell for me. If you want more you'd be better off with the fill thickness T430
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Oct 3, 2013 22:26
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I'm looking at this laptop at the moment. I basically don't know anything about laptops, (only what I've read from the OP here) and I'm wondering if this would be a solid buy or not. The only thing I can see wrong with it is the resolution seems tiny which I'm sure I could live with. What I want to know is if there's any glaring flaws I'm missing. Mostly what I intend to use it for is schoolwork, but I also need it capable of playing Dota 2, I dont think I'll be doing anything much more extreme than running Dota along with a browser and skype. However, I like buying nice things so I like to go a fair bit over the minimum when it comes to things like this. If there are others you have in mind to suggest my price range is 700~900 with a little wiggle room.
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Oct 3, 2013 22:52
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Tanners posted:I'm looking at this laptop at the moment. I don't know much about laptops but there's a y410p model that's the exact same but has a 1600x900 14' screen, for $800.
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Oct 3, 2013 23:50
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Genocyber posted:I don't know much about laptops but there's a y410p model that's the exact same but has a 1600x900 14' screen, for $800. Well that's certainly interesting. edit: it seems the model with the 1600x900 screen takes 3-4 weeks to ship which is a bit more than I'd like to wait. Tanners fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 23:52
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You're going to loathe that 1366x768 screen in about six months when everyone is selling 1080p and up. 1366x768 in a 15" frame is a crime against humanity and is going to be a bear to lug around if you're planning on taking it anywhere further than the living room couch. Make sure you're using the  B&N link in the OP for a better price
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Oct 4, 2013 00:03
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Hadlock posted:You're going to loathe that 1366x768 screen in about six months when everyone is selling 1080p and up. 1366x768 in a 15" frame is a crime against humanity and is going to be a bear to lug around if you're planning on taking it anywhere further than the living room couch. I really cant wait 6 months so that sucks. Also what is a reasonable weight for carrying around in a backpack? edit: Is it a lot harder to find laptops with built-in num-pads or is that commonly an option? I really cant live without a dedicated numpad. Tanners fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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Oct 4, 2013 00:19
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Hadlock posted:Make sure you're using the Important to note: The discounts change! Current discount ends Oct 9th, and my guess is the discounts will probably increase savings into the holiday season. Right now, the discounts are less than ever. A BASIC T430 is $679, which is higher than any price for it listed in the OP. If you can wait, that seems to be advisable for maximum savings. Depending on your config, this could mean $50, or this could mean $150. Last discount I configured a T430 to be $700.50, that same config is now $787.20
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So I've definitely decided on a T430 I'm just waiting a few more days to finalize what I'd like for options and put aside the cash. The first is the keyboard. I'm not sure how it is in the US but I get the choice between a backlit keyboard or a non-backlit which is 40 bucks cheaper. Anyone with the backlit have any comments? I've never had a laptop with that option so not sure how much I really care about it. Second is the wireless card. There's 4 choices. I've tried googling the 4 but I don't really see anything consistent. Any opinions? Why is the second one free if it's a better card? Integrated WiFi Wireless LAN Adapters ThinkPad 1x1 b/g/n Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 (2x2 BGN) [$0.00] Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 AGN [add $10.00] Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 AGN [add $40.00]
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Oct 4, 2013 02:05
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General consensus is that upgrading the Wifi is almost mandatory. For the  (Centrino Advanced N) you get MUCH better antennae strength and speed. It is worth it.The non-backlit as an option sounds like a totally cosmetic option that won't affect your keyboard experience if you're a touch-typer. If you will be using your laptop in dark and frequently re-adjust your fingers by sight, then it is helpful.
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Oct 4, 2013 02:27
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dissss posted:They're both 1366x768 or 1600x900 only Oh, I didn't think that the T430s even had a 1600x900 option. It's still got worse hardware at a higher price tag than the Y410p, so it's still bad for other reasons Martytoof posted:Unfortunately the battery life is going to be what kills the y410 for me :\ That's fine, just so long as that isn't driving you to buy a T430s, as it has worse battery life (because it's non-Haswell and comes with Windows 7). Don't get the T430s.
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Oct 4, 2013 03:59
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QuarkJets posted:That's fine, just so long as that isn't driving you to buy a T430s, as it has worse battery life (because it's non-Haswell and comes with Windows 7). Don't get the T430s. That's a bit of a stretch - they both have about the same (crappy) battery life.
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QuarkJets posted:Oh, I didn't think that the T430s even had a 1600x900 option. It's still got worse hardware at a higher price tag than the Y410p, so it's still bad for other reasons QuarkJets posted:That's fine, just so long as that isn't driving you to buy a T430s, as it has worse battery life (because it's non-Haswell and comes with Windows 7). Don't get the T430s. Really, it breaks down like this: You buy the Y410p because you want the GF 755M in there and intend to use it as a vaguely "mobile" gaming platform at a reasonable price. You buy the T430s because you want something thin and light, yet of high quality and durability, to take with you on the move. You buy the T430 w/9 cell or slice battery because you want a tank that you can make last all day. You wait until November and buy one of the T440 varients because you want a high quality machine that'll last all day without needing a slice battery.
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Oct 4, 2013 04:38
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DrDork posted:Sure, but it's also 1.5lbs lighter and built better. It's not a "bad" laptop by any means, you're just ignoring what it's intended uses are. Is there any hope of a 9 cell for the y410p? Also, for anyone who has installed the SSD and put the 1tb drive in the ultrabay, are you able to turn the 1tb on and off, and do you notice any significant battery gains going full SSD? It is very odd to me that the y410 doesn't have a 9 cell battery option. Obviously you don't buy the thing to get a light laptop so anyone who buys it knows they're lugging it around, some extra weight for an increase in battery life is a fair trade off to me. The one tendency I hate in ultrabooks is the internal battery. I like the ability to get a new battery 2 years later when the current one's charge doesn't hold any more, or to get an expanded battery for longer life. mugrim fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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Oct 4, 2013 04:53
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DrDork posted:Err...not really. Win7 is seen as an advantage for a lot of people, and the battery life is roughly the same. He's talking about the battery life. 8 is better than 7.
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Doctor Albatross posted:I'm getting pretty close to deciding between a Macbook Air and something like the ASUS ZENBOOK UX31E. The 13" size, thinness and SSD are really appealing for both. I guess it comes down to preference of OS, really, doesn't it? I've been told by friends "just get an ex-lease Dell or something", but something with a nice metal body and being capable of 720p/1080p video on the laptop or connected to an HDTV is really preferable. Doing that and being able to carry around something fairly small and light in a backpack for uni would be perfect. Is there anything out there I might be ignoring out of brand preference / being generally ignorant? I was unimpressed by my Zenbook, but then again it did have the habit of getting hit by things. Retina displays rule though even with the hit and miss and miss support of them on Windows.
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QuarkJets posted:That's fine, just so long as that isn't driving you to buy a T430s, as it has worse battery life (because it's non-Haswell and comes with Windows 7). Don't get the T430s. Yeah, I'm not entirely set on a the 430S. I'm probably not going to go down that road. I just got a job as an IT contractor and I'll be going on client sites for like 5-7 hours a day, 5 days a week, so I need something that'll get me through the day and it doesn't sound like either of my two choices will be what I'm looking for. I'd look at other brands but quite frankly the job I just got is for a lenovo partner so we get good discounts on lenovo gear. They will buy me up to a $500 laptop at their expense. I can pay whatever I want over $500 out of pocket, but with the lenovo price breaks they get that amounts to a free $1000 lenovo laptop so I'm probably going to stick with this brand. Since it'll be for work first and I already have a gaming "rig" at home I decided to not worry about the Y410p. I'd rather whatever I get look a little more businesslike (no offense to anyone who has a 410 or anything, I just don't think they look all that great) and smaller. Not to mention the battery life.
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Oct 4, 2013 05:24
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Aphrodite posted:He's talking about the battery life. 8 is better than 7. I have yet to see any evidence of that in the real world.
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Aphrodite posted:He's talking about the battery life. 8 is better than 7. Really, Martytoof, unless you need it RIGHT NOW, it sounds like you would be very well served by waiting a few weeks for the T440 series to drop. While I don't believe for a minute that you can get 17 hours of life out of one of them without some pretty funky metrics or fine print (*note, includes a battery swap!), 7+ hours shouldn't be a problem at all, especially with a 6-cell battery. e; Other than that, as said, a T430 with extended battery options will see you through the day, albeit it won't be as thin and light as you might prefer. Still, the 9-cell battery usually gets me roughly 6 hours of web-browsing and other light duty, and weighs ~5.2lbs, or about 1/3lbs less than the Y410, and 1/2lbs more than a T430s. Bump up to the slice battery and you add 1.4lbs, but also add another ~6 hours of life, so ~6.4lbs for 9 hours or 6.7lbs for 12 hours. And of course there's the terrible screen, but no avoiding that, sadly. DrDork fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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