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Azran posted:First Monkeigh. Now this. Think of it more as an internal war between ordos of the Inquisition - the Xenos faction is trying to cosolidate power while the Malleus support is growing every stronger. So what do you do? Fight a vicious and successful war against the Xenos, thus convincing people who would otherwise have backed the Malleus faction that your iron jack-booted march towards turning Gotcha! (With a picture of a destroyed eldar craftworld) Focus on the problems we have with these filthy Xenos! Ignore the multitude of daemons we're unleashing!
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Cream_Filling posted:I believe you mean "Warboss Mag Uruk Thraka". I haven't had my mind blown like this since I signed up for the forums and saw the Fedex Arrow thing.
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Well, gently caress. Now I have to stop playing Orks.
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Bunnyofdoom I think you mean play Orks more. The Black Library: Mag Uruk Thraka headsplosion zone.
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VanSandman posted:Bunnyofdoom I think you mean play Orks more. Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub is Blair? Do I have that right?
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Rampant Murdork is widely acknowledged to be the biggest bastard of an Ork alive.
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Cream_Filling posted:I believe you mean "Warboss Mag Uruk Thraka". Ninja edit: thanks for the avatar mystery goon! <3 Maggie (don't tell my dad, he'll kill me).
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Arquinsiel posted:The thing about war is that it's not *always* a flat out "bad thing". Nobody blames Poland for going to war against Germany and Russia for example. Why is that relevant? Historical context of the authors.
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VanSandman posted:Bunnyofdoom I think you mean play Orks more. So who else has been immortalised in GW character names?
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Fideles posted:So who else has been immortalised in GW character names? Sly Marbo wasn't exactly a subtle homage to Rambo.
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Fideles posted:So who else has been immortalised in GW character names? Well, maybe you're familiar with the movie Apocalypse Now, based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. Michael Sheen's character is sent into the jungle to find the psychotic, rogue colonel Kurtz. In 40K, the assassin M'Shen is sent to kill Konrad Curze.
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Donnerberg posted:In 40K, the assassin M'Shen is sent to kill Konrad Curze. I found this kind of intertextuality really jarring, personally, when reading the Nightlords Trilogy. Whereas 80s and 90s WH40K bathed in these kinds of goofy, grotesque intertextual winks and nods, it seems really out of place in the more current literature where the authors are attempting to craft a more sombre Universe. Reading the assassination sequence (think it's the first book?) was like a gigantic slap in the face to my suspension of disbelief.
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Aries posted:I found this kind of intertextuality really jarring, personally, when reading the Nightlords Trilogy. You're reading 40k books, gently caress your suspension of disbelief. Screaming Face Castle was great.
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Aries posted:I found this kind of intertextuality really jarring, personally, when reading the Nightlords Trilogy. Counter-Point. Blackadder 40k is awesome.
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Aries posted:I found this kind of intertextuality really jarring, personally, when reading the Nightlords Trilogy. Why do you think Curze is so miserable all the time? He knows his entire life is a bad joke. I know there's been a gradual shift in tone over the years, but I actually like the inherently silly universe being played so straight.
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Donnerberg posted:Well, maybe you're familiar with the movie Apocalypse Now, based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. Michael Sheen's character is sent into the jungle to find the psychotic, rogue colonel Kurtz. I knew about the Curze reference, but somehow didn't pick up on M'Shen. Why is pulpy space pew pew trash making me feel dumb?! bunnyofdoom posted:Counter-Point. Blackadder 40k is awesome. I would watch the ever-loving gently caress out of this show
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Dog_Meat posted:Why is pulpy space pew pew trash making me feel dumb?!
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Dog_Meat posted:I would watch the ever-loving gently caress out of this show http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4648258/1/Blackadder-40K-Tales-from-the-Black-Millennium
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[quote="Cream_Filling" post=""4200973"] I know there's been a gradual shift in tone over the years, but I actually like the inherently silly universe being played so straight. [/quote] And the best authors tend to play that up in amazing ways. In ADB's short follow-up to Helsreach, I was enjoying Grimaldus' gripping and serious recollection of rooting out a renegade cult and fighting a daemon just perfectly on its own, well before I realized that the explosive that ended the battle was literally the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
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One Legged Cat posted:And the best authors tend to play that up in amazing ways. In ADB's short follow-up to Helsreach, I was enjoying Grimaldus' gripping and serious recollection of rooting out a renegade cult and fighting a daemon just perfectly on its own, well before I realized that the explosive that ended the battle was literally the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. That's actually not ADB's thing, the Black Templars have had the 'Holy Orb of Antioch' in the tabletop rules since 4th Edition.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:That's actually not ADB's thing, the Black Templars have had the 'Holy Orb of Antioch' in the tabletop rules since 4th Edition. Well, it's not his invention, but ADB did choose to include it.
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On the other hand, ADB chose not to include dreadknights because gently caress that baby carrier power loader.
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Thousands Sons is fantastic. McNeill does a great job show how heavily entrenched warpcraft and warp related features like the tutalaries are to the Thousand Sons (and that it seems natural and benign to them) but how completely corrupted they are and don't even know it yet. During their club meetings McNeill makes a point to emphasize that while in a region of limited connection to the Warp they're forced to communicate verbally, rather then psychically like they normally do. His description of the latent psyker seeing Magnus as some horrifically powerful and undeniably 'wrong' entity constantly shifting forms is really good. You learn pretty early on that all the Thousand Sons consider their Primarch to be essentially a massive warp being just trapped inside a bag of flesh. For an immortal demi-god trying to raise up humanity but making sure that absolutely no one messes with the warp having a son be 99% warp energy seems like a pretty terrible idea.
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Fideles posted:So who else has been immortalised in GW character names? Well, there's always Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau
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Shameless posted:Well, there's always Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau And his sidekicks are Chirugeon Watson, Arbitrator Dreyfus and Inquisitor Anakin (who is armed with a  Arquinsiel posted:(don't tell my dad, he'll kill me). Too late.
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my dad posted:(who is armed with a So is Eisenhorn at the start of the series. His force sword is a bladeless weapon, just a 20cm hilt to project the usual force sword field without the usual blade. The Space Wolf is actually decent. Ragnar is a decent character with a lively internal dialogue who gets into interesting situations. Book 4, Wolfblade, is a good ripoff of dune that could have stood to be a lot longer and more focused on inter-House rivalries between the Navigators. And more Holy Terra. The prose is solid if unexceptional, and I actually found myself wanting more along the way, especially in book 4.
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^^^^ http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1120075&_requestid=278519 This is a mage from the "Djed'hi" order, and one of his powers was summoning a blue sword of ultra-death. The whole thing was rather blatant. my dad posted:Too late.  Welp.
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pentyne posted:Thousands Sons is fantastic. McNeill does a great job show how heavily entrenched warpcraft and warp related features like the tutalaries are to the Thousand Sons (and that it seems natural and benign to them) but how completely corrupted they are and don't even know it yet. During their club meetings McNeill makes a point to emphasize that while in a region of limited connection to the Warp they're forced to communicate verbally, rather then psychically like they normally do.
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Fideles posted:So who else has been immortalised in GW character names?
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Is there any literature on the Unification Wars and Thunder Warriors? Or is it all just from random pieces of fluff? Those two topics have always interested me, and I've heard the Thunder Warriors were even bigger and nastier than Space Marines.
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Waroduce posted:Is there any literature on the Unification Wars and Thunder Warriors? Or is it all just from random pieces of fluff? Those two topics have always interested me, and I've heard the Thunder Warriors were even bigger and nastier than Space Marines. The Outcast Dead touches on them somewhat... I've heard that it's got a glaring continuity flaw, though.
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The Outcast Dead was about a Thunder Warrior. They were proto-Space Marines, and might be a close match for them in combat, but they aren't as long lived. Because of the genetic enhancements, they burn out pretty quickly. You want to talk about the Emperor being a dick? After the Unification Wars, he had the Thunder Warriors culled because they didn't fit his image of a "perfect warrior." They did their job, and he turned on them - that's way worse than being a bad dad.
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Isn't there some stupid story with a Thunder Warrior absolutely stomping a custodies or something like that?
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Neurosis posted:Isn't there some stupid story with a Thunder Warrior absolutely stomping a custodies or something like that? My understanding was Thunder Warrior > Custode > Space Marine by a significant margin.
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Thunder Warriors operated seemingly by the principle of live hard, die fast. Culling them was almost entirely unnecessary since they died of old age pretty quick. Least that's what I remember from The Outcast Dead.
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berzerkmonkey posted:You want to talk about the Emperor being a dick? After the Unification Wars, he had the Thunder Warriors culled because they didn't fit his image of a "perfect warrior." They did their job, and he turned on them - that's way worse than being a bad dad.
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VanSandman posted:Thunder Warriors operated seemingly by the principle of live hard, die fast. Culling them was almost entirely unnecessary since they died of old age pretty quick. Least that's what I remember from The Outcast Dead. Yeah all we have to go on is the probably self-serving account of one drugged out and sick guy who sets himself up as a warlord in what's honestly a pretty bad book. It doesn't even seem like they live shorter lives than your average normal human.
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Waroduce posted:Is there any literature on the Unification Wars and Thunder Warriors? Or is it all just from random pieces of fluff? Those two topics have always interested me, and I've heard the Thunder Warriors were even bigger and nastier than Space Marines. The Last Church takes place near the end of the Unification Wars. A character recalls fighting a battle against Thunder Warriors. It's available on the internet in places, do a google search.
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Cream_Filling posted:Yeah all we have to go on is the probably self-serving account of one drugged out and sick guy who sets himself up as a warlord in what's honestly a pretty bad book. It doesn't even seem like they live shorter lives than your average normal human. Yeah, but wasn't he stealing and growing body parts to replace his failing bits?
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Waroduce posted:Is there any literature on the Unification Wars and Thunder Warriors? Or is it all just from random pieces of fluff? Those two topics have always interested me, and I've heard the Thunder Warriors were even bigger and nastier than Space Marines. The narrator in Prospero burns provides some first-hand accounts of battles and social issues during and immediately after the Unification Wars. No Thunder Warriors, but you get pre-crusade Space Marines in it.
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