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Thanks guys. I pulled the speakers out from the wall and it made a huge difference. I'll have to play around to find the best spot. I looked around online for speaker feet and found lots of arguments and $1000 brass cones. I think what I should do is get some of the pads you put on the bottom of dining room chairs to keep them from marking hardwood floors, but I really have no idea. The cabinets are veneer. They are also really heavy so I would bet they are made from MDF and a fair bit of it. Wow, you guys have some nice looking stereos in here. I also found my Dads old radio tuner. It's a JVC. I'll have to try it, but if I recall most of the buttons stopped working. I'll go get a photo of it. Edit: Photos    The buttons are all sticky. I think I'll clean it and see how it turns out. I don't really need a tuner, but maybe I'll hook it up anyway. No one wants this thing do they? TomR fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Sep 7, 2013 |
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I'm going to a lot of garage sales and flea markets here in Norway, and see lots of old Tandberg gear. Is the Sølvsuper 11 or 12 worth picking up for anything other than the novelty?
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I was wondering if you had any advice for stereo furniture. I have an old Pioneer SX-780, a turntable (Pioneer PL-518) and a tape deck (probably not going to hook it up) connected to a pair of Advent smallers. I am trying to stick with something vintage (ideally mid century modern), but all the old integrated cabinets are huge and I would prefer to separate the speakers from the turntable. Some local vinyl guys recommended an end table or coffee table and some speaker stands, but I wondering if you had any thoughts about vintage stereo tower options and speaker stands. I'm about ready to modify some end tables, but I stumbled in here and was hoping maybe I missed something obvious?
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When I was looking, I nearly got this. Still want it, but I've made a more modern (Salamander Designs Archetype) rack work for the time being. Philthy fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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You could try looking for a small sideboard to modify if you feel like doing some woodworking. I cleaned this tuner up and got all the buttons working again. It was really dirty and it could use a second go over.  I'm still not sure what to do with it. In other news I got some 24 bit FLAC files that were recorded from vinyl. I suppose it's not surprising, but it sounds like listening to a record. 
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Didn't see mention of this in the OP but for preamps, I saw someone on the first page mention this site: http://www.phonopreamps.com/ Would that be a good place to start? The "best" seems reasonable at only $50. Anything I need to look for? I am attaching this to my Sony STR-K900. Ive never really done this before so unsure of where to put the connections, does it even matter? Just turntable to preamp to matching inputs on the back?  (say MD/TAPE here?).
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Vintersorg posted:Didn't see mention of this in the OP but for preamps, I saw someone on the first page mention this site: http://www.phonopreamps.com/ The TCC TC-750 is a good starter phono pre-amp, yeah. You can order it on amazon too. Once the turntable signal goes through the phono pre-amp, you can hook it up to any of your RCA line-in inputs, yeah. MD/TAPE should be fine but so would SA-CD/CD or even DVD.
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I'm pretty happy with my TC-750! I would second that recommendation. What would be a step up? Would it really be noticeable? I've got a 1200M3D with an m97xe.
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Awesome, thanks guys!  I ALMOST went out today to buy this: http://www.creativeaudio.ca/electronics/phonostages_nad_pp2.html NAD PP2i at $149 CDN But I don't think I want to spend that much just yet until I get a better setup and system. So ordered the 750 and hopefully it gets here within a couple weeks (yay shipping to Canada).
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Been moving the past month, but finally got all the R2Rs hooked up, gave them a little work out this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53MSN38_N78
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Is anyone familiar with the Pioneer PL-71? Everything I've read about them seems like they are a winner but I had someone tell me that I should pretty much avoid non-quartz locked DD tables, which sounds kinda like bullshit to me. It's a pretty good looking table and would be a definite upgrade from my current one but I don't want to invest a couple of hundred dollars into a thing if I have any doubts about it (which that one dude has instilled in me).
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I see no problems with non quartz locked turntables. Yes you have do deoxit sometimes but that's not a huge deal.
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 Tandberg 3030 Receiver + Pioneer PL-640 Turntable. Bumping Skrillex's "Bangarang" on Vinyl. Paid $5 for the combo. I'm shocked to find a turntable at a yard sale that has a good belt. The Tandberg needs a good cleaning though. However, I messed with the knobs enough that it's listenable.
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Guys, quick! Should I grab a Bang & Olufsen RX-2 with MMC 3 cart in "new condition" for $100? It seems to go for quite a bit more on eBay and it's a loving gorgeous machine but I'm terrified of the whole "expensive-as-poo poo proprietary cartridge" thing. Also, I don't actually need another turntable at the moment and should probably instead spend that money on new carts for the two that I already own. But, I mean loving look at it:  And it does, like, automatic everything.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Guys, quick! Should I grab a Bang & Olufsen RX-2 with MMC 3 cart in "new condition" for $100? It seems to go for quite a bit more on eBay and it's a loving gorgeous machine but I'm terrified of the whole "expensive-as-poo poo proprietary cartridge" thing. Also, I don't actually need another turntable at the moment and should probably instead spend that money on new carts for the two that I already own. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ABSOLUTELY loving YES
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All the B&O CD players I've used have been utter poo poo (as in will only play a freshly opened Jari Sillanpää CD and nothing else). A record player really can't be that bad so maybe? If anything breaks or wears out, be prepared to pay moose dicks for replacement parts.
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Jerry Cotton posted:All the B&O CD players I've used have been utter poo poo (as in will only play a freshly opened Jari Sillanpää CD and nothing else). A record player really can't be that bad so maybe? If anything breaks or wears out, be prepared to pay moose dicks for replacement parts. That's odd, I've had the complete opposite experience. I can't speak for the modern stuff, but I had a Beogram CDX that played drat near anything (including blue CD-Rs), and still have a Beogram CD50 which plays CDs most of my other pre-1990 players won't. The turntables are very solidly engineered - The Beogram 8000/8008 are absolute tanks. The RX2 is a revision of the Beogram 5000/RX (which was made around the same time as the CD50/Beosystem 5000), so I wouldn't think that there'd be any serious issues with it provided it's been taken care of. Sound Smith will become your best friend when you need a new cartridge for it.
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metaxus posted:Sound Smith will become your best friend when you need a new cartridge for it. So...when the stylus finally breaks I can look forward to spending at least $300 on a full replacement cartridge and there really isn't an alternative?  But on the other hand, it is really pretty...
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Or this (posted in the vinyl thread):http://www.edsaunders.com/reded.htm Anyone order from them?
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I bought the 78 one at my local record store. The quality is acceptable.
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Vintersorg posted:Or this (posted in the vinyl thread):http://www.edsaunders.com/reded.htm Nah but the price is about right. He's not the only one selling them without the branding (and based on my extensive research they really are the exact same thing as the branded ones), but he probably sells more so he can get them cheaper. Sanyo and Tonar have also sold the same cart with branding but at a higher price - only with the conical stylus. e: Or were you implying those would work with a B&O record player? Because they won't.
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Jerry Cotton posted:e: Or were you implying those would work with a B&O record player? Because they won't. Yeah was going to say that too. I do wonder how many people buy record players like that old B&O, or the ceramic twist Philips heads and stuff only to realize the styli are NLA or hundreds of dollars.
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It's easy to mistake it for a P-mount. If you don't know exactly what a P-mount looks like
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Jerry Cotton posted:It's easy to mistake it for a P-mount. If you don't know exactly what a P-mount looks like Yeah, I hope whoever ended/ends up buying the Beogram knows exactly what's up and is prepared to deal with it. The thing's a drat work of art and really was in flawless shape. I'd hate to think that somebody would trash it or break it or leave it in a basement because they initially thought it worked like any other table. If I weren't a grad student with two turntables already, I'd have probably grabbed it but I just kept thinking about that "time to replace the cart  " eventuality.Which reminds me: I finished my bedroom setup a few weeks ago and I loving love it. I'll post pics, but I've gotta clean my room first. 
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Here's how I see it: there's a lot of record players that are cheaper and easier to keep in working condition than a Bang and Oluffsen.
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Girlfriend wants a sound system for the kitchen and living room. No Vinyl, just digital music, likely stored on phones. There will be 2 zones, kitchen and living room. I can get 4 Polk bookshevles (RTi4) used (new in box) for $250 or so Wireless amp for the kitchen speakers: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/rocketfish-wireless-speaker-kit-rf-whtib-a/10087529.aspx?path=98696fd1b96cba38e531b32a2c3224ffen02 2 channel receiver for living room: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...e2e7e07d1a6en02 Bluetooth dongle/receiver: http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...4a7275f5e64en02 Not sure on that last item. Is bluetooth music streaming from phones crap ? This setup might be overkill. Basically it'll be around $550 so that she can listen to pink while doing dishes or entertaining guests. Is there a cheaper all in one solution, perhaps something that can be daisychained with extra speakers wirelessly ?
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I take it you're not an Apple household? The AirPort Express and iTunes/iPhone combo is gloriously simple to set up and sounds fine.
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minivanmegafun posted:I take it you're not an Apple household? The AirPort Express and iTunes/iPhone combo is gloriously simple to set up and sounds fine. Nope, no apple devices in this house. FYI I have a good setup in the theater room and bar with airplay capability, but for upstairs, plugging into a mini stereo jack to RCA is good enough for most people. Ive never used bluetooth audio though, so I don't know what the quality is like.
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jonathan posted:Wireless radio options. Not to be lovely, but I'm not totally sure if this is the right thread for that sort of stuff. But to answer your questions, Bluetooth audio sounds fine to me and the stuff you've linked to looks like a decently good setup. If you want something a bit sleeker and more minimalistic (and a bit better sounding IMO) then you could probably set up a really good deal with Audioengine's self-powered speakers (either the A2 or A5) and their wireless dongles. They're all really great.
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After all the B&O talk, I unpacked and set up the CD50 for the first time in about 18 months. After running for a few minutes, there was a loud hissing noise and a plume of acrid smoke from the power supply as the EMI suppression capacitor on the primary side of the power supply let go:  After 26 years of service, the dielectric broke down and it shorted out. Also discovered the rest of my collection has gotten a bit damp, so I have fourteen other CD players to strip down and inspect in the next few days. Edit: Bonus picture of the decoder board from my Philips CD202. It turns 30 years old in December (as do I), and other than needing some dry joints touched up (typical Philips) and replacing the attached lead with some proper output sockets, it still runs like the day it was made... Unlike me!  (Click for bigger) Bass Ackwards fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Not to be lovely, but I'm not totally sure if this is the right thread for that sort of stuff. I agree. I figured its out of place the least here though. Thanks for the gear recommendation.
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jonathan posted:I agree. I figured its out of place the least here though. Thanks for the gear recommendation. The bluetooth receiver you linked has an optical out, which allows you to circumvent the cheap digital to analog convertors used in most other bluetooth receivers. If bluetooth receivers don't sound fantastic and awesome, it's mostly that these days. And even then they sound good enough unless you're the type to call, say, modern 128kbps MP3s completely unlistenable. I mean, if you start to do A/B comparisons with a wire connection, you'll probably notice slight differences, but in general use you wouldn't be aware of all that. But you could maybe look for an amp with an optical in; that wouldn't be a bad thing to do.
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In my local charity shop, there's a set of Philips Black Tulip (Pre-Amp, Power Amp, Tuner, Cassette Deck) for sale for £90 (~$150). I've looked around the net and while there's a bit of chatter about it, there's not much in the way of 'this is a piece of kit that stands well to time' or 'avoid this like the plague' kind of stuff. Here's the best info I can find, Google Translated from German - http://translate.google.com/transla..._AH_280&act=url It's got a nice look, although this racked image seems to have an extra section I didn't see in the store... possibly a power supply. Obviously without that it might be completely useless, but I think they test everything in this store before putting it out for sale (they only sell furniture and electronics, it's quite a big place and I've never had any issues with stuff bought there).  Anyone got any knowledge, advice? I'd like a nice stereo amplifier to go with my vintage turntable which is plugged into a home cinema received currently. The fact this is rackable is definitely a plus point for me.
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I think that bottom one is a master power for the entire thing. On another image I found it says "Switch Unit". Outside of that, there are some nice pictures of it as a Philips X70/X80/Xsomething Set. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/22369908@N02/ It certainly looks really nice. If I had a spare room that needed a vintage 2ch set up, I'd probably go for it at that price. Edit: The insides of the preamp are here: http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Philips_22_AH_270 It's really clean, so if something pops, it appears to be easy enough to fix. Philthy fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Ah neat, I didn't see the rest of the Flickr group I found the original image in... there's some lovely pieces in that gallery. I also want the phone to go with it! I noticed on the units I could see the top of they contain the schematics for each unit (which the image on that wiki doesn't have for some reason, maybe a slightly different version). You're right about the switch unit, I couldn't make that part out in the original picture... I'm guessing it just brings up the whole lot in one go as opposed to turning each component on. Hm, shop closes in 30 minutes but it's only around the corner. I think I might plump for it and resell on if it's not for me. Cheers! e: went back and the guy said they wanted £90 per unit. I had to double-check because I thought he must be mistaken, but no. So that's why they were still there then! EL BROMANCE fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Looks like that amp is an AH370, 70W/ch @4ohm. Service manual - http://elektrotanya.com/philips_22ah370_sm.pdf/download.html More pics, including unit porn. http://forum.vintage-audio-laser.com/ecoute/philips-rack-1979-serie-x70-t6202.html Looks like good quality stuff.
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Yeah it looks really nice in the flesh too and in good condition, but I can't justify throwing $500 at it, I saw a recent ebay auction that ended for about the price I thought they listed it at so I'm not going to spend 3x the rate on it. I'll keep my eye on it if they sensibly rebadge the price. Annoyingly I've had decent pickups from there before, my MiniDisc separate was about $30 which for this country is pretty good (I just use it as a DAC), but I don't know what they were thinking when they priced this one. A pity as it's the first genuinely nice thing they've had in stock for a while.
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A Pro-ject 3 Debut popped up on craigslist recently for $250 and I'm tempted to go for it. It has a OM-10 cartridge on it instead of the standard OM-5, and I'm hoping to talk the guy down to around $200 since the table is going for $300 new on Amazon right now. Does that sound like a good deal? From what I understand, the Debut Carbon is the successor to this one but I've only ever seen them go for $400.
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peskyplumber posted:A Pro-ject 3 Debut popped up on craigslist recently for $250 and I'm tempted to go for it. It has a OM-10 cartridge on it instead of the standard OM-5, and I'm hoping to talk the guy down to around $200 since the table is going for $300 new on Amazon right now. Does that sound like a good deal? From what I understand, the Debut Carbon is the successor to this one but I've only ever seen them go for $400. I mean, it's not a terrible price, and it probably isn't unfair, but I'm just not sure if $250 is worth it to me given what a Carbon brings to the, erm, table. $200 is better, but if the table's in good shape I don't really see the seller lowering the price any more than he/she has. The Carbon comes standard (in most markets) with an Ortofon 2M Red- on top of the carbon fiber tonearm, new motor suspension, bigger (more massive) platter, and other structural upgrades. A 2M Red retails on its own for $100, so the $100 difference between a new Debut 3 and Debut Carbon gives you all of the structural improvements + the much better cartridge* (already aligned and mounted) all for the price of the cartridge alone. It would probably cost you at least $200 to upgrade your Debut 3 with retail parts to get it to a similar state (let's say you buy a 2M Red and a CF tonearm and you have to get them mounted/buy the tools to do it yourself). So it's really up to you- if you're happy with the Debut 3's capabilities and wouldn't necessary be planning to do any major upgrades (or if you can see yourself planning to replace that table with something substantially more expensive in the future) then maybe go for it. If you think you might be planning to put a 2M Red or similar cartridge on it in the future, then I suggest simply saving up the extra $50 and just buying a Carbon. For what it's worth, I personally wouldn't buy a new Debut 3 for $300 instead of a Carbon for $400 and I wouldn't buy a used Debut 3 for $250. I might buy it for $200 if I really needed a turntable right away and couldn't afford to wait until I could buy a Carbon instead, but that's not a particularly realistic scenario. If you're in the sub-$250 market, then I'd be looking for vintage gear anyway. Way more bang for your buck if you can get something good for ~$150 and then slap a good new cartridge on it. *That's not to say that an OM 10 isn't a great cartridge already. It retails for ~$60-70, so it's not like you're getting ripped off on that front or anything. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Oct 7, 2013 |
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