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Newegg has the Lenovo Yoga 11s (the one with the x86-64 intel i5, not the RT powered thing) for $599 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313605
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^^ drat, that is just the kind of thing I've been looking for to replace my crappy acer aspire one. I went ahead and got one, looks like a hell of a deal. Thanks 
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Is there any significant speed difference between the SATA connection in the y410p's ultra bay vs the one integrated into the motherboard (used by the original hdd)? I ask because everyone recommends installing an ssd into the slot where your original hdd was, and I'm wondering if that's because of speed issues or just for future convenience's sake.
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Oct 4, 2013 13:33
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Anyone know if you can do a fresh install from the 8.1 preview iso microsoft provides, or is it upgrade only? e: gently caress finding non-sketchy win8 images 
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Oct 4, 2013 14:51
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Is there any significant speed difference between the SATA connection in the y410p's ultra bay vs the one integrated into the motherboard (used by the original hdd)?
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dissss posted:I have yet to see any evidence of that in the real world. My real world battery life on my W520 is much better under 8 than it was in win7. It also sleeps, resumes, shuts down, and boots significantly faster, with the same 840 Pro SSD that I was using with win7. Since I never used the start menu in 7 anyhow, there is zero downside to 8 and many upsides. (There, I can anecdote too).
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DrDork posted:Usually it's because the internal connector is set to run at SATA 3 speeds, while the ultrabay runs at SATA 2 speeds. Honestly, it is unlikely you'd ever actually notice the difference, but if you're already taking things apart to do the swaps, you might as well toss the SSD on the faster connection. Also, if you don't have the main OS in the ultrabay, swapping the optical drive back in is always an option if you want to.
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What's the consensus on the new S Series? I'm looking at the S431 and honestly I really like it. I have a T430s that I use at work and the only thing I've wished was that the touchpad was larger and more responsive. The S431 has a much larger glass touchpad. I understand it's not going to be the same build quality as the T series but it seems like I can get a lot of the features I'm looking for at a decent enough pricepoint.
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Hadlock posted:8 and 7 are the same once you install classic shell Is Classic Shell an official Windows product?
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Martytoof posted:Yeah, I'm not entirely set on a the 430S. I'm probably not going to go down that road. I just got a job as an IT contractor and I'll be going on client sites for like 5-7 hours a day, 5 days a week, so I need something that'll get me through the day and it doesn't sound like either of my two choices will be what I'm looking for. Work got me a Thinkpad X230 and it's pretty great. 4-5 hours of battery life just using a browser (probably longer if I could be bothered to turn down my screen brightness.)
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Notebookcheck has their German review of the Zenbook infinity up now. Here's a translated version: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...k.102304.0.html Most people in this thread will be interested in the results for the 28W Haswell chip it's packing. In general, it's 20% faster than the 17W i7 in the 2013 MacBook Air. In games the Iris 5100 GPU is also about 15-20% faster than the 4400/5000 (which are often nearly indistinguishable) but it isn't night and day. The Iris Pro 5200 is still about 70% faster than the Iris 5100, which seems to suggest that the GPU desperately needs memory bandwidth.
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Klaus Kinski posted:Anyone know if you can do a fresh install from the 8.1 preview iso microsoft provides, or is it upgrade only? If anyone was wondering, the answer is yes, but it doesn't detect my key. Any idea if I need a certain version for win8 core swedish? e: No you don't, just a single language one. Klaus Kinski fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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Naffer posted:Notebookcheck has their German review of the Zenbook infinity up now. Here's a translated version: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...k.102304.0.html Which laptops actually have the 5200?
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Only one Schenker/Clevo model right now.
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Okay, looks like it's going to be a MacBook Air! Thanks very much for all the great responses. I also asked on Facebook for some worthy alternatives to the Air, and got either "just get the Air" or some vague grumbling about Apple products with no suggestions as to what would be better. Typical!
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DrDork posted:Really, Martytoof, unless you need it RIGHT NOW, it sounds like you would be very well served by waiting a few weeks for the T440 series to drop. While I don't believe for a minute that you can get 17 hours of life out of one of them without some pretty funky metrics or fine print (*note, includes a battery swap!), 7+ hours shouldn't be a problem at all, especially with a 6-cell battery. Unfortunately I start the job on the 15th and I need a machine from the get-go. I don't know what Lenovo's return window is, but I might do that if I'm still within it when the 440s come out. I'm still undecided about what I want so I have a few days to figure it out, but there's lots of helpful suggestions in this thread. Honestly, for what I'll be doing I really just need a machine that runs RDP and can run one or two small VMs on the go, as well as outlook and excel so realistically any machine that isn't an i3 with 2 gigs of ram should be fine. Since I'm essentially getting this for free and it'll be my property I was hoping to just get the best bang for my buck I could, but the more I think about it the more I might be overthinking a laptop I'll be using primarily for troubleshooting and diagnostic stuff at work. I'm not compiling or developing or anything on it, nor am I doing huge number crunching.
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Doctor Albatross posted:Okay, well I think I'll pick up a MacBook Air, then - after asking on Facebook for any suggestions as to Windows alternatives, I received either suggestions to get the Air or grumbles about even considering buying an Apple product, although not a single alternative was suggested by said grumblers. Heading to the shop tomorrow to take a look, thanks for the advice all! Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus, the new Zenbook, the Yoga 2. Oh there's a Sony one too Sony Pro maybe?
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Duck and Cover posted:Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus, the new Zenbook, the Yoga 2. Oh there's a Sony one too Sony Pro maybe? Sony Vaio Pro 13. There'll be a Sony Vaio Flip in the next month or so (Yoga competitor) and Dell should have the new XPS 13 out in that time too (3 pounds, Haswell, 1080p screen).
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Sony also has a sliding Vaio Pro. Duo 13, or something. They will not settle until they have every kind of convertible.
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What are the chances that the new Macbook Pro with Haswell will be available before the end of the month? I have a conference to prepare for and I want to at least try to plan on what kind of equipment I'll have available.
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Any word on when the Yoga pro 2 is suppose to drop with Haswell?
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Russian Bear posted:Any word on when the Yoga pro 2 is suppose to drop with Haswell? Lenovo's website posted:Kenny R asked: When is the release date?
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DrDork posted:15" and 3200x1800 doesn't leave you with many options. You've pretty much got that Dell Precision, the HP ZBook 15, and the MBPr if you're willing to take a slight resolution hit. Everything else at that resolution is a 13.3" or 14" screen. All three options have (at least options for) i7 CPUs and 16GB RAM or more, with backlit keyboards. Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it. The MBPr was something I looked at, but it's near-complete lack of field repair options and lousy warranty/support are a turn-off. I've looked at the HP, but I couldn't find the options for the high-res screens on their site? And I see Dell's got the XPS15 out soon with a retina-quality display, but it still doesn't have a 10-key and I'm not sure of the build quality on the XPS line. Seems like the Precision is looking like my best option, unless anyone else has suggestions for a 15" desktop replacement with a retina-quality screen, high-end quad core proc, and a bunch of RAM.
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Gwaihir posted:My real world battery life on my W520 is much better under 8 than it was in win7. It also sleeps, resumes, shuts down, and boots significantly faster, with the same 840 Pro SSD that I was using with win7. Since I never used the start menu in 7 anyhow, there is zero downside to 8 and many upsides. The same is definitely not true of my T430s (with an SSD) or the various Elitebooks (all with spinny disks) we've tested on at work. The only thing that is faster is system startup (but not restarts after updates which defeats the purpose given that is the only time I'd ever switch off a laptop)
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:Is there any significant speed difference between the SATA connection in the y410p's ultra bay vs the one integrated into the motherboard (used by the original hdd)? On the Thinkpads the main drive is SATA 2, and the mSATA port is SATA 1 on a seperate controller, because the other SATA 2 port provided by ivy bridge/haswell is reserved for the Thinkpad dock. I do not know if the Ideapads have a dock or if this is an issue. sports posted:Is Classic Shell an official Windows product? If it were, would people be bitching about the lack of start button in Win 8.0? And then how the "start button" in 8.1 isn't a real solution offered by microsoft? I'm confused on your angle here.
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Hadlock posted:On the Thinkpads the main drive is SATA 2, and the mSATA port is SATA 1 on a seperate controller, because the other SATA 2 port provided by ivy bridge/haswell is reserved for the Thinkpad dock. I do not know if the Ideapads have a dock or if this is an issue. Could've easily been a Microsoft product released post-8 that they decided to also have available for 8.1 without integrating it in to core functionality, I'm giving the above poster the benefit of the doubt as far as it being an innocently asked question rather than some veiled starting point for an argument though.
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Yeah, Microsoft sometimes releases great little tools (like Synctoy) that don't come with WindowsDrDork posted:Err...not really. Win7 is seen as an advantage for a lot of people, and the battery life is roughly the same. For battery life specifically, Windows 8 is better than Windows 7. I don't know where in the thread this was posted, but there are tons of studies all over the Internet demonstrating this. Microsoft has done its homework. Idle performance of Windows 8 seems to best that of Windows 7 SP1 in every case. The improvement you’ll notice the most with Windows 8 is in battery life For everything else, Windows 7 has no advantages over Windows 8 unless downloading classic shell is a serious obstacle DrDork posted:He listed Windows 7 as a negative, so I do believe that's what he was talking about. Context: QuarkJets posted:as it has worse battery life (because it's non-Haswell and comes with Windows 7) As you can see, I was talking about battery life. That said, there's no reason to choose Windows 7 over Windows 8 if you have an internet connection and can download classic shell QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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QuarkJets posted:As you can see, I was talking about battery life. That said, there's no reason to choose Windows 7 over Windows 8 if you have an internet connection and can download classic shell Regardless of 7 vs 8 or Ivybridge vs Haswell it does not seem the Y410p has better battery life than the T430s - they are both bad in that regard.
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Any consensus on the http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00COQ4ETG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=VHSFSRTTGED2&coliid=IIZP11X3ALWYT Need it by early next week so Lenovo store doesn't seem to be an option. Probably going to need something on amazon prime or pay extra to 1 day something from newegg. This will be used for work (I'm a radiologist) and light gaming so a big screen is a plus. Also been looking at the Lenovo y510p offerings from newegg. Think I'll be able to salvage my 256 gb ssd from my old laptop so hard drive differences are not an issue. TomEmanski fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Acer <> Asus I don't imagine battery life is going to be up to scratch - Haswell or not that isn't a low power processor and it comes with a tiny battery
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dissss posted:Acer <> Asus
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Gray Matter posted:Are you saying Acer is equivalent to Asus? I've always considered Acer to be bottom of the barrel in build quality and Asus to be a pretty reliable name. To be honest I havent seen any Acer laptops in person in the past 5 years or so, maybe I'm just being a fanboy? No he meant Acer is not Asus, the poster above him had the two confused. Also the new Aspire S7 is supposed to be fantastic.
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TomEmanski posted:Any consensus on the I have pretty much the same laptop (mine has the 4500u i7) and I love it. I get decent (6.5 hours) battery life doing lite internet/word processing. The build quality has been great so far. Although they do use some funky screws so if you want to replace the HDD with a SSD then you will have to find something to get the screws out. As far as gaming it runs everything I've tried (Eve, BF3, Crysis 2) at decent frame rates on medium settings. The screen is pretty nice also. JRay88 fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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JRay88 posted:I have pretty much the same laptop (mine has the 4500u i7) and I love it. I get decent (6.5 hours) battery life doing lite internet/word processing. The build quality has been great so far. Although they do use some funky screws so if you want to replace the HDD with a SSD then you will have to find something to get the screws out. As far as gaming it runs everything I've tried (Eve, BF3, Crysis 2) at decent frame rates on medium settings. The screen is pretty nice also. The difference is the 4500u is a 15 W chip, the 4700hq is 47 W
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Doctor Albatross posted:Okay, looks like it's going to be a MacBook Air! Thanks very much for all the great responses. I also asked on Facebook for some worthy alternatives to the Air, and got either "just get the Air" or some vague grumbling about Apple products with no suggestions as to what would be better. Typical! iirc this was entirely on purpose, apple bought all the cheap haswell chip sets explicitly to put the competition behind by a few months and because they had tons of cash on hand. I can't find the article detailing that for the life of me, but it's why it is much easier to find the more expensive battery draining haswell mobile systems. This doesn't change the fact that if you need it right now, a MBA is probably your best bet, but windows systems are getting more and more interesting and the newest gen of ultrabooks require a touch screen, so it might be worth waiting based on what is coming down the pike. Let me explain that the only reason I watch this thread is because my MBP from 2006 finally died this year and I need a new laptop, and I'm over obsessive with checking all details over and over again. Apple makes great products but I'm kind of surprised by their reluctance to use touch screens (you know, that tech that they made super famous on two different fronts) with their laptops or try something really bold with their UI. In my mind the company that made the ipad/iphone should have been the first to jump on the touchscreen wagon. mugrim fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Ok, so I've been waiting for the T440 patiently, but my current laptop just kicked the bucket all the way, so I'm in a  situation here. Give me a $800-900 laptop that's preferrably haswell and is well-built. Or should I just bite the bullet and get the T430?Edit: office use, prefer 15.6 but will take 14, need a good/hi-rez screen and ability to run netflix+remote desktop. Naturally Selected fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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mugrim posted:Let me explain that the only reason I watch this thread is because my MBP from 2006 finally died this year and I need a new laptop, and I'm over obsessive with checking all details over and over again. Apple makes great products but I'm kind of surprised by their reluctance to use touch screens (you know, that tech that they made super famous on two different fronts) with their laptops or try something really bold with their UI. In my mind the company that made the ipad/iphone should have been the first to jump on the touchscreen wagon. They aren't reluctant to use touch screens, they're just not going to add them to form factors where it makes no sense
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