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haveblue posted:what about an acknowledgement that no one person will ever know the whole because that's what spirituality is a response to lots of classic respected scifi stories are based on the virtues of fascism, especially a lot of heinlein stuff also rama sucked there, i said it
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:teenagers already seem comically self-absorbed to adults. holy poo poo i can smell the nursing home stench loving wafting off of this post
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Oct 6, 2013 20:30
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Can-O-Raid posted:holy poo poo i can smell the nursing home stench loving wafting off of this post ask the nanny to change your diaper the smell will go away
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Oct 6, 2013 20:31
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ask the nurse to change your diaper
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Oct 6, 2013 20:32
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:also rama sucked wrong
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Oct 6, 2013 20:32
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garak ftw
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Oct 6, 2013 20:33
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:also rama sucked
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Oct 6, 2013 20:37
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Sham bam bamina! posted:whoa, you sure showed... uh... them? 
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Oct 6, 2013 20:48
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Smythe posted:garak ftw
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Oct 6, 2013 20:59
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Smythe posted:garak ftw owns
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Oct 6, 2013 21:00
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garak is best the and it's an insult that the actor was only ever a 'guest star'
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Oct 6, 2013 21:02
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haveblue posted:what about an acknowledgement that no one person will ever know the whole because that's what spirituality is a response to spiritual and religious characters are fine because in the future there will still undoubtedly be a lot of fanatics and con men taking advantage of dumb people and bad guys can use faith as a motivation that can seem sympathetic but when you get caprica or bsg or lost and the ultimate answer to every mystery is well people have souls and there are unseen magical forces and god did it then it's just a fantasy story
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Oct 6, 2013 21:04
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:garak is best the and it's an insult that the actor was only ever a 'guest star' i think "guest star" is actually a more prestigious billing than secondary characters usually get, because it means your name appears in the intro instead of the end credits and yes. garak rules. dukat also ruled. character development is important even for your villians and ambiguous spies and poo poo
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Oct 6, 2013 21:08
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souls are gay
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Oct 6, 2013 21:10
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i forget how it works kuz im not an agent/manager nor do i work w/ sag/aftra stuff but guest star/co-star etc etc star aren't arbitrary they like mean things w/ sag scale or smthing idk wat im saying is its abt the money not teh prestige
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Oct 6, 2013 21:10
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Yeah but he should have been main cast
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Oct 6, 2013 21:12
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:Yeah but he should have been main cast he wasn't in enough episodes to be main cast. (just looked it up: 33 eps) also it would have really watered down the characterization and just been generally icky to write garak into every single plot
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Oct 6, 2013 21:14
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Improbable Lobster posted:souls are gay praise the bum
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Oct 6, 2013 21:41
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angry_keebler posted:spiritual and religious characters are fine because in the future there will still undoubtedly be a lot of fanatics and con men taking advantage of dumb people and bad guys can use faith as a motivation that can seem sympathetic but when you get caprica or bsg or lost and the ultimate answer to every mystery is well people have souls and there are unseen magical forces and god did it then it's just a fantasy story lol i can hear your fedora from here
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Oct 6, 2013 22:06
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ds9 did religiousness in a not-terrible way, considering it gets laid out in the very first episode that like "yes, here are these basically-omnipotent timeless beings that get worshiped as gods" and it's always a part of the story, so when they show up in various dramatic guises it's not just some poo poo that writers pulled out of their rear end because they couldn't actually figure out how to end a show after half a dozen seasons of randomly-added mysteries that were never tied together in any meaningful way behind the scenes (see: bsg, lost) there's a reason "deus ex machina" is considered laughable and bad writing
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Oct 6, 2013 22:18
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It's bad but it's not any worse than time travel or alternate dimensions as terrible plot mechanics (both of which can be fine but in general are awful) time travel is definitely the worst though
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Oct 6, 2013 22:29
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:It's bad but it's not any worse than time travel or alternate dimensions as terrible plot mechanics (both of which can be fine but in general are awful) TNG finale ftw
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Oct 6, 2013 22:32
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time travel can be fine if its done properly but its really really hard to do properly (see tng finale) and really really easy to do bad (see everything to do with voyager, enterprise)
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Oct 6, 2013 23:05
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Gus Hobbleton posted:time travel can be fine if its done properly but its really really hard to do properly (see tng finale) and really really easy to do bad (see everything to do with voyager, enterprise) time travel peaked with bttf
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Oct 6, 2013 23:07
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Gus Hobbleton posted:time travel can be fine if its done properly but its really really hard to do properly (see tng finale) and really really easy to do bad (see everything to do with voyager, enterprise) yeah like i was seriously surprised that enterprise went with some time travel bullshit right from the get-go. that was really really bad.
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Oct 6, 2013 23:08
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rigberry enema posted:time travel peaked with bill and ted's excellent adventure
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Oct 6, 2013 23:36
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dur posted:yeah like i was seriously surprised that enterprise went with some time travel bullshit right from the get-go. that was really really bad. a 74 hour time travel holodrama being watched by two bloated boozed up caricatures of tng characters
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Oct 6, 2013 23:36
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Gus Hobbleton posted:watch sgu gently caress the haters sgu was good and it sucks that it got cancelled this is one of the worst tv programmes ever they forgot to add a story
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Oct 6, 2013 23:42
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best sci fi movie of all time
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Oct 6, 2013 23:44
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ol qwerty bastard posted:ds9 did religiousness in a not-terrible way, considering listen to this man
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Oct 6, 2013 23:45
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new bsg (caprica included) is an excellent series if for no other reason than it gets internet atheists all riled
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Oct 7, 2013 00:47
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literal deus ex machina clicky 
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Oct 7, 2013 01:13
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time travel rules writing a time travel story that isn't terrible is no harder than writing any other kind of story that isn't terrible pet peeve: time travel stories in which all the characters complain about being stuck in a time travel story instead of just going "heck yes, let's get some time travel on, awesome"
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Oct 7, 2013 01:32
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time travel is fine when it's the main mechanic of the story (or series if it's tv) and they actively deal with the repercussions of time travel but when it's used as a lovely deus ex machina it's terrible and makes it feel like all actions are pointless because anyone can just time travel at any time for any reason to do any thing
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Oct 7, 2013 01:34
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:time travel is fine when it's the main mechanic of the story (or series if it's tv) and they actively deal with the repercussions of time travel but when it's used as a lovely deus ex machina it's terrible and makes it feel like all actions are pointless because anyone can just time travel at any time for any reason to do any thing perhaps the same could be said of all deī ex machina
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Oct 7, 2013 01:45
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i want to see a time travel story where about 1/5 of the way into the plot there's a mutiny by all of the non-main characters and all the main characters are killed and the rest of the movie is about the renegade crew setting themsevles up as god-kings with their future-knowledge
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Oct 7, 2013 04:59
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duTrieux. posted:
when did you become Vishnu/Oppenheimer?
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Oct 7, 2013 05:04
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infernal machines posted:when did you become Vishnu/Oppenheimer? "Now we are all sons of bitches."
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duTrieux. posted:i want to see a time travel story where about 1/5 of the way into the plot there's a mutiny by all of the non-main characters and all the main characters are killed and the rest of the movie is about the renegade crew setting themsevles up as god-kings with their future-knowledge yeah seriously why does this never happen a group of people with a decent grasp of modern engineering, chemistry, and physics, thrown back in time a thousand years, could loving own the place alternatively, a story about advancing technology in a fantasy world, but not portrayed as "aargh saruman is cutting down all the trees and that's bad we need to live in ~~harmony with nature~~" alright fine shut up i'm just really excited for pratchett's "raising steam"
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