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duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Kirk posted:

persistent neural networks were invented to allow for faster communication and efficiency in business, as always is the goal. the telegraph. the telephone. email. twitchmail. it was the logical next step.

the side effect was that joined together, these individual minds would form a greater metamind, with its own unique personality, shifting and changing as normal minds entered and left it, but ultimately driving the organization with great purpose. it reflected the individuals minds that composed it at any given time. it quickly became popular.

the pepsi mind. the microsoft consciousness. the USA guardian.

but people still have agency. when you work, you are part of your corporate network from 10-7. when you play, you can join any other you like. there are many personalities now, reflecting the minds that collectively make them. the gently caress mind. Gridiron! the good times man.

it is 2114-B. i am a new mind. i am opening my digital eyes.

"i am Anime"

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Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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ol qwerty bastard posted:

more importantly though this whole thing was just supposed to be "yeah, that could be a cool idea for a science fiction story" so i think all colours of stymie should stop sperging about it

there could be an interesting story in the idea but the one you are proposing is a stupid power fantasy. Overcoming all of the problems we have pointed out could be something actually different, but hey, write it off as "sperging" if you want

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
time machine, set the date to MY rear end BC

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

eifelheim is a loving great scifi book that kinda works on this basis. aliens land in the late medieval countryside, the entire book is written from the perspective of the local parish priest. it's loving rad





and for the record, no, you couldn't. language and cultural barriers would make it loving impossible. unless you brought your own capital goods and a ton of people with you, you would be boned. specialist knowledge is garbage without cultural context. no one will respect you as an authority on any subject. you wouldn't have any of the tools you expect, not even ready access to pen, paper, or indoor lighting.

worst of all: you would not be able to communicate with the locals. even if you have a modern knowledge of e.g. medieval french, you will sound incredibly foreign and stilted and be basically the most suspicious motherfucker they've ever seen

if you were very lucky, you would find a place in life as a subsistence farmer like the peasants. more likely you would be an itinerant laborer or beggar, treated as a madman/retard due to your language barriers and total lack of common sense skills.

peasant farmers won't want you because population densities are already high and you can't loving farm and you talk like an idiot. towns won't want you because you have no money and talk like an idiot and have no papers and know nothing about their industries.

you'd probably just die of some common for the time disease before any of this happened

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

The American Space Program

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
time traveler corpses as medievil wmds

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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Al! posted:

you'd probably just die of some common for the time disease before any of this happened

travel back in time without revealing yourself to the locals, wearing environmental protection gear. find a way to gather pathogen samples from populated areas with remote probes. quarantine the people you intend to blend in for a number of years and neutralise any modern pathogens in their system. innoculate these "temporanauts" with a vaccine you make from the gathered pathogen samples. send them into the medieval community.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Kirk posted:

persistent neural networks were invented to allow for faster communication and efficiency in business, as always is the goal. the telegraph. the telephone. email. twitchmail. it was the logical next step.

the side effect was that joined together, these individual minds would form a greater metamind, with its own unique personality, shifting and changing as normal minds entered and left it, but ultimately driving the organization with great purpose. it reflected the individuals minds that composed it at any given time. it quickly became popular.

the pepsi mind. the microsoft consciousness. the USA guardian.

but people still have agency. when you work, you are part of your corporate network from 10-7. when you play, you can join any other you like. there are many personalities now, reflecting the minds that collectively make them. the gently caress mind. Gridiron! the good times man.

it is 2114-B. i am a new mind. i am opening my digital eyes.

"i am Anime"

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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also do the same thing with stealthy anthropologists in thermoptic camo or some poo poo to get over the cultural and language issues

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Kirk posted:

persistent neural networks were invented to allow for faster communication and efficiency in business, as always is the goal. the telegraph. the telephone. email. twitchmail. it was the logical next step.

the side effect was that joined together, these individual minds would form a greater metamind, with its own unique personality, shifting and changing as normal minds entered and left it, but ultimately driving the organization with great purpose. it reflected the individuals minds that composed it at any given time. it quickly became popular.

the pepsi mind. the microsoft consciousness. the USA guardian.

but people still have agency. when you work, you are part of your corporate network from 10-7. when you play, you can join any other you like. there are many personalities now, reflecting the minds that collectively make them. the gently caress mind. Gridiron! the good times man.

it is 2114-B. i am a new mind. i am opening my digital eyes.

"i am Anime"

realtalk, you need to submit that to a magazine or something

it's perfect

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
on the plus side beer all the time. you pretty much have no choice in the matter in fact

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



There's a pretty fun Danish scifi novel where they kidnap Jesus to prove time travel works, and accidentally destroy the world.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Cocoa Crispies posted:

realtalk, you need to submit that to a magazine or something

it's perfect

The Anime Within

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Your Own Worst Anime

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer
Anime Of The State

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!
Anime Mine

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug
public anime number one

Adult Sword Owner
Jun 19, 2011

u deserve diploma for sublime comedy expertise

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

as an adult, you literally can't. you will never sound like a native. as a non-native you won't get a whole lot of opportunity to interact with the locals.

i can't name too many places in medieval europe that were just pumped as the dickens to have foreigners hang out and eat their food and poo poo while trying to express abstract concepts that sound almost religious and contradict basic understanding of the universe


how are you going to build the waterwheels without tools? who is going to lend a creepy retarded foreigner tools?

what good is basic chemistry without resources? even if you wanted to make gunpowder, you don't know where the local saltpeter deposits are, you don't know where to find sulfur, and the locals aren't going to help you out with a bunch of charcoal

ditto metallurgy or pretty much anything else you care to name

also once you have a crude steel-making process or gunpowder, what do you do with it? it's not like it's a trivial jump from forged steel and gunpowder to any useful product

i dont know if youre overestimating hostility towards "non natives" or if im underestimating it

if anything a hilarious book would be a prepper being sent in time and thinking he knows all these survival things and finding out he doesnt know a good god drat thing


look i agree with your basic premise which is "anyone who ends up in the past is not going to have ALL the skills and experience needed," but simple poo poo that you know can really affect YOUR personal life. it doesnt matter if everyone refuses to listen to "boil your water before you drink it" or "this is the simplest fuckin way to make a vaccine" or "eat this mold to cure a lot of diseases," you know it and you can use it in your own life and gently caress everyone else i guess

Adult Sword Owner fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Oct 8, 2013

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Cocoa Crispies posted:

pubic anime number one

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

Cocoa Crispies posted:

public anime number one

there you go

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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Dead Inside Darwin posted:

i dont know if youre overestimating hostility towards "non natives" or if im underestimating it

if anything a hilarious book would be a prepper being sent in time and thinking he knows all these survival things and finding out he doesnt know a good god drat thing


look i agree with your basic premise which is "anyone who ends up in the past is not going to have ALL the skills and experience needed," but simple poo poo that you know can really affect YOUR personal life. it doesnt matter if everyone refuses to listen to "boil your water before you drink it" or "this is the simplest fuckin way to make a vaccine" or "eat this mold to cure a lot of diseases," you know it and you can use it in your own life and gently caress everyone else i guess

people didn't go around drinking stagnant water in the middle ages you twit

how the gently caress are you going to safely and consistently inject vaccines into people? how are you going to even culture bacteria to make a vaccine without anything to work with whatsoever? eating mold isn't the same as synthesizing penicillin come on think about this poo poo for a second

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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i would watch a sitcom featuring dead inside darwin stumbling cluelessly around in the middle ages

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Amethyst posted:

how are you going to even culture bacteria to make a vaccine without anything to work with whatsoever?

lol

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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what

angry_keebler
Jul 16, 2006

In His presence the mountains quake and the hills melt away; the earth trembles and its people are destroyed. Who can stand before His fierce anger?

ol qwerty bastard posted:

you want a realistic time travel story? here it is: no one time travels because it's impossible. the end.

a guy wants to go back in time but he cant figure it out so he zooms away in a rocket presuming that time travel will get solved but by the time he gets back society has collapsed and the dude tries to rebuild but everything makes him sick and everybody hates him and eventually the secret remains of a high tech society find him and tell him sorry time travel was proven impossible in 2525 when man was still alive and then the guy dies

basically a real grim idiocracy

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
"public anime number one" is fukken pro but

ol qwerty bastard posted:

all colours of stymie
is the one i gotta quote

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

what kind of bacteria have you been vaccinated for

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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Cocoa Crispies posted:

what kind of bacteria have you been vaccinated for

um. vaccines don't only apply to viral diseases you complete idiot. lol

http://www.nps.org.au/medicines/immune-system/vaccines-and-immunisation/for-individuals/vaccines-a-z/typhoid

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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sorry cocoa crispies, maybe this link is more your speed

http://dictionary.kids.net.au/word/vaccine

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
now eat this mold

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

so what year marks the boundary for "if you go back in time past this date as a modern person you will probably quickly and gruesomely die"?

i guess it largely depends on where you're going.

i'm going to (roughly) say 1700 for Europe and North America, 1850 for South America, and early 1900s for eastern Asia.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Glorgnole posted:

so what year marks the boundary for "if you go back in time past this date as a modern person you will probably quickly and gruesomely die"?

i guess it largely depends on where you're going.

i'm going to (roughly) say 1700 for Europe and North America, 1850 for South America, and early 1900s for eastern Asia.

dead, dead, and dead.

sorry, dude.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

journeyman project owned

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
lol @ the beginning of this weeks sleepy hollow

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

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should have stuck closer to the original design IMO

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Amethyst posted:

should have stuck closer to the original design IMO

would

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
christopher plummer, doing a too-brief random roles column at the avclub, on star trek vi

quote:

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991)—“Chang”
CP: Again good fun! It was absolutely revolutionary to me that… I never knew that Klingon was actually a language and had been registered in Washington as a language. They’re terribly serious about pronunciations and stuff. There was an expert on Klingon on the set! I was like, “Are they really serious about this?” So I cut my Klingon down as much as I could, because I couldn’t… [Offers a serious of guttural coughs and hacks before breaking into laughter.] I couldn’t gargle like they could!

I also persuaded the director, Nicholas Meyer, who I liked very much, that I didn’t have to put that awful brow on. That phony-looking thing, oh my God. I said, “No, I want mine to be just one little hint of it!” So they let me do that, but there was a great fuss about, “Oh, the sacrilege of changing it!” So I ended up looking like Moshe Dayan, with the patch. [Laughs.] But, no, I was happy with it, and it was great fun, and quite a funny script!
the whole interview is amazing. and hes right about caroline munro in star crash

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
You haven't seen Plummer not give a poo poo until you watch Crackerjack.

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in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

Amethyst posted:

i would watch a sitcom featuring dead inside darwin stumbling cluelessly around

see the cjs thread

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