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Astro7x posted:Why release DLC when they can take the time to make a good game, not withhold content for DLC, and it has a really good shelf life where it doesn't need to come down in price? My point was more Nintendo releasing stuff like Luigi U extends the life of a game without having to make a brand new game. That way they can spend more time making something brand new. That's the right way to handle DLC.
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Oct 8, 2013 00:20
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Tekken is $10 at Target right now. I had to price match with the website since it was listed at $20 at my store.
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Oct 8, 2013 00:26
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Bass Bottles posted:The boxart was taken from someone's DeviantART account so don't get excited. I wasn't. I just found it amusing that they had "boxart". I still have to get Dark Moon myself.
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Oct 8, 2013 01:39
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:You can't say that when the 3DS is the loving boss and selling fine. You're right, that's fair. But I still stand by the WiiU being a colossal failure and they need to seriously switch up their corporation and who's in charge. They're getting killed. When the new systems come out they're supremely hosed
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Oct 8, 2013 01:58
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:You're right, that's fair. But I still stand by the WiiU being a colossal failure and they need to seriously switch up their corporation and who's in charge. They're getting killed. When the new systems come out they're supremely hosed I really don't get what Nintendo is supposed to do. Their games look and play great. Even with out the gamepad, all they can do is make games, which is more than the head of a company has say in. Their biggest problem is HD development as they've acknowledged. I don't see how firing anyone helps this. If anything they should be hiring more people, which they do, but they hardly trust anyone to develop their properties. They also can't just money hat, because they aren't respected by third parties. Even Ubisoft is throwing them lame scraps, Zombie U, AC3 and Splinter Cell have been buggy messes, Splinter Cell being the worst port ever. Rayman is only good by virtue of being a platformer, and having more dev time than they needed. So they either pay for developers to put poo poo on their consoles, furthering the stereotype that Nintendo console owners only buy Nintendo, or they develop a new game every month as some people seem to think that's how long it takes to make a game.
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Oct 8, 2013 02:34
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What's wrong with Splinter Cell? Also, don't denigrate platformers.
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Oct 8, 2013 02:44
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Is anyone else having trouble viewing YouTube videos with the browser? It's not freezing anymore, but it says that the video (any one) can't be played on the device. Presumably they want you to use the lovely app for some reason.
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Oct 8, 2013 02:48
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:What's wrong with Splinter Cell? The miiverse is a tire fire of people desperately hoping for a patch, posting Twitter responses from devs and shushing people who question Ubisoft's brilliance. quote:Also, don't denigrate platformers. I would never. And I'd have bought Rayman Legends if I didn't have principles. The challenge app was great. Can't wait for Ubisoft to blame sales instead of their reputation, devs don't realize how powerful miiverse is for informing purchases. bushisms.txt fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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Oct 8, 2013 03:28
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Mennonites Revenge posted:Is anyone else having trouble viewing YouTube videos with the browser? It's not freezing anymore, but it says that the video (any one) can't be played on the device. Presumably they want you to use the lovely app for some reason. Browser Settings > User Agent > Internet Explorer - Touch You'll have to set this each time you open the browser, but it'll fix your Youtube issues.
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Oct 8, 2013 05:21
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bushisms.txt posted:They also can't just money hat, because they aren't respected by third parties. Even Ubisoft is throwing them lame scraps, Zombie U, AC3 and Splinter Cell have been buggy messes, Splinter Cell being the worst port ever. Rayman is only good by virtue of being a platformer, and having more dev time than they needed. So they either pay for developers to put poo poo on their consoles, furthering the stereotype that Nintendo console owners only buy Nintendo, or they develop a new game every month as some people seem to think that's how long it takes to make a game. When you consider that Nintendo in all likelihood, if factoring in second party developers and subsidies, has at least 24 dev teams going at any one time its not that hard an idea to have to expect at least two games per three months. Cliff Racer fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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Oct 8, 2013 05:57
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Cliff Racer posted:When you consider that Nintendo in all likelihood, if factor in second party developers and subsidies, has at least 24 dev teams going at any one time its not that hard an idea to have to expect at least two games per three months. When you consider 3DS titles this might actually be the case.
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Oct 8, 2013 06:02
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Cliff Racer posted:When you consider that Nintendo in all likelihood, if factoring in second party developers and subsidies, has at least 24 dev teams going at any one time its not that hard an idea to have to expect at least two games per three months. Physics don't work that way. Especially with how anal they are with their properties. Also yes, the 3ds is pretty much being held up by Nintendo alone. How many games is MSFT putting out? Sony is splitting time between generations, but the Vita is the worst selling console still alive today. And they've got only 3 to 4 games coming out for the PS4, a few more if you include downports from PC.
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Oct 8, 2013 07:56
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bushisms.txt posted:Physics don't work that way. Especially with how anal they are with their properties. Also yes, the 3ds is pretty much being held up by Nintendo alone. They do if you are a competent business which puts teams on a two to three year leash instead of letting them gently caress around for half a decade and not even come up with anything. Who cares what the other two are doing, their consoles' success is not 100 percent tied to in-house first party content in the same way as Nintendo's is. We all know that Microsoft Game Studios slowly drove everyone with drive and creativity out over the past eight years (not to mention the fact they often go out and buy timed exclusivities from third parties instead) and Sony's groups, while of diverse competence, are nowhere near as numerous as Nintendo's.
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Oct 8, 2013 08:20
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Yo NA dudes - Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate with Wii Classic Controller Pro for $19.99 plus shipping! http://shop.capcom.com/store/capcom...s=1381221654958
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Oct 8, 2013 09:42
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That's not going to help the confusion between the Pro Controller and Classic Controller Pro. Should have called the Pro Controller the Core Controller.
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Oct 8, 2013 10:07
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bushisms.txt posted:but the Vita is the worst selling console still alive today. I've been following the Vita thread for a couple of months and it's kind of crazy how much better that thread is compared to this one even though the Vita is performing as poorly as the Wii U
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Oct 8, 2013 11:37
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Help Im Alive posted:I've been following the Vita thread for a couple of months and it's kind of crazy how much better that thread is compared to this one even though the Vita is performing as poorly as the Wii U Probably because aside from those who just play it for the games and love it (which is a lot and I mean no ill will towards them) there are some technophiles that get angry if top technology is not as commercially viable as a withered technology item. To them there's no plausible reason for someone to buy a crappy 3DS over the more powerful Vita. These are the same people who make a thousand excuses to why the Wii was a failure because in their world, an under powered console should never be a market leader. These are also people who upgrade their phone the moment they can to whatever is new on the market just to say they have the latest whatever. I push for technological advances any chance we get (especially future technology research through socially funded means) but I don't get angry when people are having fun playing FarmVille, Pokemon or any game that doesn't push boundaries graphically. Vita looks like a nice piece of hardware and while it ain't my cup of tea (I think the sticks on it are poo poo) I certainly don't want to see support dropped for it before its time. I know it'd be easier for some if all games came out on the same platform but I consider choice and competition a good thing. If everything was run by Sony, Apple, Microsoft or even Nintendo it would pretty much be the worst thing for the gaming industry. tl:dr good for them
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Oct 8, 2013 12:19
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bushisms.txt posted:I really don't get what Nintendo is supposed to do. Their games look and play great. Even with out the gamepad, all they can do is make games, which is more than the head of a company has say in. Their biggest problem is HD development as they've acknowledged. I don't see how firing anyone helps this. If anything they should be hiring more people, which they do, but they hardly trust anyone to develop their properties. Dude, I don't know how else to put it but Nintendo isn't doing well with their new console. Things take forever and they don't make that big of a splash when they've come out. The marketing is a joke and the system is floundering. If you think they don't need a shake up in terms of how they're managing the system then I don't know what else to say. Theyre bringing out some good games in a little while, but it's been out for more than a year now. 2 new systems are coming out in a little bit and Nintendo should be well ahead of them at this point. I really don't think they are.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:23
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bushisms.txt posted:Also yes, the 3ds is pretty much being held up by Nintendo alone. Um..what?
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Oct 8, 2013 12:26
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Dunban posted:Um..what? I'm gonna guess he meant to say Nintendo is pretty much being held up by the 3DS alone.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:30
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Dude, I don't know how else to put it but Nintendo isn't doing well with their new console. Things take forever and they don't make that big of a splash when they've come out. The marketing is extremely frustrating. This is Nintendo. The Mario 3 commercial is still one of the greatest commercials of all time. Remember the Smash Bros. Commercial and how crazy it was to see Nintendo characters fighting each other? Or the wacky "Wii would like to play" stuff that just made getting a Wii feel like "I'm doing this for me because I want to have fun with friends and family at home again"? Nintendo used to be marketing geniuses and the handling of the 3DS and Wii U is not common to how they worked through history. It's frustrating when I'm doing more marketing for Nintendo to friends than Nintendo is doing period. I truly think with a good marketing campaign from the start this console would be in at least 10 million homes. Just the turnaround on World 3D should be proof that something is wrong with how Nintendo thinks they should market themselves. And if that's on Iwata or Reggies call they need to be held accountable.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:35
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:The Mario 3 commercial is still one of the greatest commercials of all time. It ran a bit long at 90-odd minutes, but man did it get the job done  . And yeah, Nintendo really need to revitalize their marketing department. They used to have some really good fun ads in the 90's/early 00's.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:38
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Speaking as someone who loves the controller and his Wii U. Nintendo's mistake was the controller. It absolutely must increase cost per unit of the console significantly, which is apparent given that they're currently loss leading on it. For games, it's a great addition, that's become apparent in my playthrough of Windwaker. But with the amount that it bumped up the price of the console, it probably wasn't worth it. (For Nintendo I mean) The lack of any sort of killer app on release was also a hilarious mistake. I mean strategically if I were Nintendo I would have pulled a Twilight Princess gimmick again. Run a simultaneous Wii and Wii U release of the game on the day the Wii U releases, yes you miss 25th anniversary but that can be fudged just enough that it's probably okay. Bang, you're releasing a console with a Zelda game that we now know sold 3.5 million units in a month at virtually no additional development cost, I mean Christ, the discs don't even have to be different if you don't want them to. Hell, you even can deal with the new console silliness in the advert. "You can get Zelda on the Wii, or on the all new Wii U, a completely separate and upgraded console that will give you the best Zelda experience" The endgame is a console running at power between generations, probably $100 cheaper and a Zelda game out the gate.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:41
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It ran a bit long at 90-odd minutes, but man did it get the job done Oh The Wizard You probably knew what I meant but the world uniting and making a Mario face is burned in my childhood memory. It's why I never cared about how the public looked at videogames for years because for all I cared, the world will unite to chant Mario if we have to. I also remember Nintendo being obsessed with mixing Zelda and rap so it ain't always rosy. What an odd combination. The first Wii U commercials should have been some celebrity spokesperson saying, "This was the Wii and this is the Wii U." holding up the console before the next frame goes to discussing the Gamepad. Make it Michael Fassbender in a suit and it'd be something both men and women can enjoy. But nope we got... Uhhh... sing along in glowing boxes from that one Elvis remix music video?
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Oct 8, 2013 12:48
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I think this is why the other WiiU discussion thread was made. But honestly I love my WiiU. I use it a ton, I have a ton of games for it. I understand this isn't the case for a lot of people, but it works great for me. If I were to rank it among Nintendo's home consoles it would probably be pretty low, but I'm enjoying it more than I did my Wii. The 3DS to me is honestly the best system Nintendo had ever released, bar none. I'm addicted to the thing and have way more games than I can possibly play, and everything about the system just works so well for me. Except the 3D which is neither a detriment or a compliment. But even not caring at all about 3D it is still my favorite Nintendo device ever.
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Oct 8, 2013 12:55
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I would really love for Nintendo to start throwing some cool deals at Wii U owners, too. The 3DS games promotion they just announced for the Japanese Club Nintendo is fantastic and I fully intend to take advantage of it, but I just think it's strange that they wouldn't throw a bone to the Wii U in some way or another, too. It's not like the Wii U got some lesser, not AS awesome version of the same deal-- it got NOTHING. Wii U is pretty cool, though. I don't have that much free time, so the combination of Pikmin 3, Wind Waker HD and Wonderful 101 will definitely keep me busy until... Aw, drat it, it's October already? Mario comes out next month? Yeah, I'm never getting around to all this poo poo.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:09
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The Timely Howard posted:I would really love for Nintendo to start throwing some cool deals at Wii U owners, too. The 3DS games promotion they just announced for the Japanese Club Nintendo is fantastic and I fully intend to take advantage of it, but I just think it's strange that they wouldn't throw a bone to the Wii U in some way or another, too. We got 30 cent virtual console games.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:14
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Random Stranger posted:We got 30 cent virtual console games. I think I was getting more at how the 3DS is seeing pretty solid support, whereas the Wii U got one thing, a year ago.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:16
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greatn posted:I think this is why the other WiiU discussion thread was made. Yeah you're right. This thread is filled with much more love though.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:26
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Yorkshire Tea posted:Yeah you're right. This thread is filled with much more love though. It's best this way.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It ran a bit long at 90-odd minutes, but man did it get the job done "Obey Wario, DESTROY MARIO!" I don't really see game commercials for any system any more, and when I do it's got pounding music single-line review quotes and about half a second of the actual game. Bring back video game characters selling their game to us. I want Bruceski fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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Oct 8, 2013 14:17
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I remember seeing a lot of these same arguments/complaints when the 3ds launched. Although my g/f plays my 3ds way more than i do, i still dont regret buying that either. I say if things dont get better by christmas 2014, then id be willing to call the wii u a flop. Remember, japanese businesses dont thing in the short term, they think long term. Its just how they do business.
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Oct 8, 2013 15:00
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jhorphear posted:I remember seeing a lot of these same arguments/complaints when the 3ds launched. Although my g/f plays my 3ds way more than i do, i still dont regret buying that either. I say if things dont get better by christmas 2014, then id be willing to call the wii u a flop. Remember, japanese businesses dont thing in the short term, they think long term. Its just how they do business. I guess the thing is that the 3DS shouldn't have had launch issues but it did. Also, handheld is a market Nintendo has been comfortably number one since 1989. The Wii U was Nintendo attempting to get former Nintendo console owners who switched to Sony/Microsoft back while also keeping the door open from the blue ocean strategy. They failed at both in a disappointing way. The marketing has been completely lackluster. So many people chip in their two cents on why it's a failure from a hardware standpoint while others comment on how they love it. The problem is neither side can really prove their point on if it's good or not because Nintendo hasn't marketed the console properly. This really doesn't feel like a system in which Nintendo has done everything they can to let people know about it and nobody wanted it. I'm of the opinion that once games people want to buy come out, it'll sell better. Probably around Gamecube levels but adjusted for the fact the console market is going to get smaller, not bigger (big games will sell more than ever, everything less than a big game will sell worse, indie games might sell a little better). That said I don't play as much as I used to and having around a dozen games I'm interested in playing is a good number so far. For people that burn through games daily I'm sure the console is a waste of space.
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Oct 8, 2013 15:37
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Cliff Racer posted:They do if you are a competent business which puts teams on a two to three year leash instead of letting them gently caress around for half a decade and not even come up with anything. Who cares what the other two are doing, their consoles' success is not 100 percent tied to in-house first party content in the same way as Nintendo's is. We all know that Microsoft Game Studios slowly drove everyone with drive and creativity out over the past eight years (not to mention the fact they often go out and buy timed exclusivities from third parties instead) and Sony's groups, while of diverse competence, are nowhere near as numerous as Nintendo's. No company will do this if they care about quality. Which is why the first game in a new series was usually tne best last gen. You really think games like Watch Dogs, Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, even Wondrful101 which has been around since 2010, only take a couple years? Nintendo used to never talk about games til e3 and we liked it. Now with the nature of this instant culture, everybody wants things now. People with attitudes like yours are the reason Forza 5 is only half done at retail. Dunban posted:Um..what? The 3ds was DOA until price drop and meaningful games. Besides MonHun, which outsold the Vitas LTD sales, just about every big release is Nintendo or second party, not even including Armature, which is former Retro, or Wayforward who is also super close to Nintendo and doing Shantae for them.
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Oct 8, 2013 15:42
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bushisms.txt posted:Wayforward who is also super close to Nintendo and doing Shantae for them.
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Oct 8, 2013 15:54
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Chaltab posted:Shantae 4 is hitting everything though. It's not like they're exclusive to Nintendo by a long shot. That's just the nature of the business. Their splinter group Yacht Club is their Nintendo group. Nintendo doesn't need exclusives, they need games, period. bushisms.txt fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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Oct 8, 2013 15:57
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Yeah it's pretty ironic people are heralding the 3DS as the greatest console ever when even 6 months ago people were saying it was DOA. I know I regretted buying a 3DS until very recently, since there was very little for it until earlier this year.
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Oct 8, 2013 16:20
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They need exclusives because right now and for the next year or so, any multiplat that goes to Wii U will also likely go to PS3 and 360.
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Oct 8, 2013 16:23
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Chaltab posted:They need exclusives because right now and for the next year or so, any multiplat that goes to Wii U will also likely go to PS3 and 360. I agree, they have always done great when they had original titles on their systems. Multiplatform games have always done fairly poorly on nintendo consoles.
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jhorphear posted:I agree, they have always done great when they had original titles on their systems. Multiplatform games have always done fairly poorly on nintendo consoles. With exception to Sonic titles which is why Sonic is starting to become Nintendo exclusive.
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