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HipGnosis posted:I can't believe people who whine about how they can't change the name of their racist-rear end They SHOULD lock themselves in a basement forever, however they tend to be the loudest assholes outside and in the open possible. 
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HipGnosis posted:I can't believe people who whine about how they can't change the name of their racist-rear end People today are too sensitive. You can't have a society if everyone just gets all offended at every blatant racist slur and insulting caricature. In my day you called people whatever you wanted and nobody got upset. Now...oh wait hold on there's a fantasy children's movie implying that the Church can be just a tad intolerant sometimes! I won't stand by while Christians are oppressed, not if other faiths think they can insult Christians and get away with it 
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VitalSigns posted:People today are too sensitive. I agree, racists are very sensitive about being told not to say racist things.
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Soviet Commubot posted:Scrolling through Facebook I saw this and thought it was a critique of capitalism posted by a lefty friend but nope, it's Ron Paul guy complaining about taxes! Facebook is displaying the image weirdly so I copied the comments and the image separately. It's like they're so close to having leftist critiques click in their head, and then they just take a hard right and scream "TAXES!!! OBAAAMMMMAAAAAAAA"
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Neptr posted:It's like they're so close to having leftist critiques click in their head, and then they just take a hard right and scream "TAXES!!! OBAAAMMMMAAAAAAAA" It looks like I'm not the only one who thought it was a leftist critique at first glance. 
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When I was really poor I didn't pay any taxes and in fact would frequently get refunds and bits of assistance here and there. What poor people are poor because of taxes?? Taxes are a strictly middle-class "problem". The poor are often exempt and the rich know how to avoid them all together.
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Baronjutter posted:When I was really poor I didn't pay any taxes and in fact would frequently get refunds and bits of assistance here and there. What poor people are poor because of taxes?? Taxes are a strictly middle-class "problem". The poor are often exempt and the rich know how to avoid them all together. People who make $35k or so and have kids or expensive hobbies. Payroll taxes ate $160 off my last check and that's not unbearable but if someone is strapped that $160 seems like an injustice. Also a complete lack of understanding regarding how poverty works and what it is like to be poor in America.
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Baronjutter posted:When I was really poor I didn't pay any taxes and in fact would frequently get refunds and bits of assistance here and there. What poor people are poor because of taxes?? Taxes are a strictly middle-class "problem". The poor are often exempt and the rich know how to avoid them all together. Something like 55% of Americans who make more than $100k in a year identify as middle class, despite being in the top 10% of income earners nationwide. Americans love to throw themselves into lower income categories. Its safe to say that very few people who complain about taxes have experienced the semi-destitution that is usually required to qualify for Medicaid.
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Emanuel Collective posted:Something like 55% of Americans who make more than $100k in a year identify as middle class, despite being in the top 10% of income earners nationwide. Americans love to throw themselves into lower income categories. Its safe to say that very few people who complain about taxes have experienced the semi-destitution that is usually required to qualify for Medicaid. I would say we have an obsession with the "Middle-Class." No one self identifies as poor, at least where I'm from, since "poor" has become so demonized (and racialized.) I would hazard to guess the vast majority of Americans, or at least White Americans, identify as Middle-Class.
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Baronjutter posted:When I was really poor I didn't pay any taxes and in fact would frequently get refunds and bits of assistance here and there. What poor people are poor because of taxes?? Taxes are a strictly middle-class "problem". The poor are often exempt and the rich know how to avoid them all together. Last year was the first year I started making serious money. But before that I always made around 25 to 30k. I always took the largest amount out of my check for taxes and I always owed more. Money I put aside all year often had a big chunk of it taken out for April taxes. It was maddening. I went up a tax bracket this year and pay a very good bit in taxes each month, but I tell myself this will be the year I get a refund. This won't be the year I get a refund.
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Baronjutter posted:When I was really poor I didn't pay any taxes and in fact would frequently get refunds and bits of assistance here and there. What poor people are poor because of taxes?? Taxes are a strictly middle-class "problem". The poor are often exempt and the rich know how to avoid them all together. Federal taxes, sure, put there's still state, municipal, property, sales (in general and for things like cable), excises, vehicle registration/inspecion, etc. etc. Some of these like sales taxes and vehicle registration are very much regressive.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Last year was the first year I started making serious money. This is the first year that I'm making good money too (from 2012 to 2013 I basically jumped from being eligible for food stamps to being in the top 10% of single-earner income), and I'll likely get a small refund, due to income deductions for student loan interest, but I'm actually glad to be paying taxes. I spent years and years earning pretty low income, and some years I actually got not just a refund, but a full-on transfer payment from the IRS because I was able to use educational credits and EIC to get more back than I paid in. Finished my degree a few years ago and started in February as a newly-minted management consultant at a top-ten firm. I want to pay taxes because I'm validation that the system works, goddammit. I wasn't a "moocher", I wasn't a "taker", the credits and deductions I got for education were an investment by the government in my future, and it's time to show that it was a good investment. CarterUSM fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 8, 2013 |
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I'm doing pretty well for myself after a long time at barely squeezing by. I got help from the government with food stamps and healthcare for about a year as well. I'm glad that I'm paying taxes to help other people out. I'm so thankful to be in my current situation and while I know I worked hard, I also can think of dozens of ways that other people have reached out to help me along the way and I try to be kind to all the people who work with me. Besides, I might not always be on top, it'll be nice to have some people looking out for me on the way down.
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I just got this one on a friend's Facebook:quote:From a friend, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION...posted on the Obamacare website today "I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition Found this: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/oct/04/facebook-posts/closer-look-facebook-post-mans-struggle-obamacare-/ but it may not be worth posting, because no matter what this dude just believes whatever his church group members post.
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BatteredFeltFedora posted:I just got this one on a friend's Facebook: Jesus, that thing is so full of shitthatdidnthappen.txt that it's hard to pick just one. I love that it's just flat-out lying. Shameless, absolute, 100% lying. Anyone who posts this unironically should have all sharp objects forcibly removed from their control; they're too stupid to be trusted with them.
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Either that person severely misreported their income on the healthcare website, or they're just flat out lying. It's not going to take 20 goddamn percent out of your yearly income.
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I find it hilarious whenever this made up poo poo says they "opt out" of Obamacare. Obamacare isn't an HMO or a health plan, you can't really opt out of it it per se, you can just refuse to follow the law and pay a fine. Saying you "opt out" implies Obamacare is the actual health plan itself.
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Not an email, but a conversation with my crazy racist uncle, while on the topic of SNAP: CRU: "So you get all the blacks who are standing in line at the grocery store taking food with food stamps that my taxes pay for, I saw this black woman talking on an iPhone while she was in line. You're going to tell me you can't work or afford groceries when you got an iPhone?" Me: "Well, not everyone on SNAP is unemployed. Sometimes people just need a little help" CRU: "These people don't need help. The blacks, they won't work to get ahead when they can get anything for free. And we get all these Mexicans, who can't even speak English, they just come here and suddenly they're Americans working our jobs, sending money back to Mexico so even more of them can take our jobs and take our welfare." Awkward silence ensues. The exchange happened two weeks ago but it just hit me today: If you're on welfare and you're not working, then you're stealing white people's money. If you're on welfare and you are working, then you're stealing white people's jobs. ???
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miscellaneous14 posted:Either that person severely misreported their income on the healthcare website, or they're just flat out lying. It's not going to take 20 goddamn percent out of your yearly income. And if it does take 20% of your income, you're exempt!
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Oldeba posted:Not an email, but a conversation with my crazy racist uncle, while on the topic of SNAP: I think when people start saying "the blacks" it's hard to really have a satisfactory response
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Oldeba posted:Awkward silence ensues. The exchange happened two weeks ago but it just hit me today: Yeah, there's nothing you can say to somebody like this that will change their mind. They hate and fear people who are different from them, the reasons are just rationalizations for preexisting bigotry.
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A friend of mine posted a facebook link titled "Bill is a loving Jackass" with a picture of Barack Obama's signature and I thought to myself, "drat, I guess I'll have to cull more people after all." I open it andquote:Here’s a hilarious allegory to the current ACA aka Obamacare hoopla. It's not the best allegory, but you know what? It'll do. 
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Propaganda Hour posted:A friend of mine posted a facebook link titled "Bill is a loving Jackass" with a picture of Barack Obama's signature and I thought to myself, "drat, I guess I'll have to cull more people after all." I open it and The big change needed is that originally everyone wanted to just have a fridge with free pop in it, but Bill couldn't stand that idea so they agreed to force everyone to pay for it instead.
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Mornacale posted:The big change needed is that originally everyone wanted to just have a fridge with free pop in it, but Bill couldn't stand that idea so they agreed to force everyone to pay for it instead. Yeah, if anything tweaking the story towards realism actually makes Bill look worse so I'm just happy in general.
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Checked the last few pages and hadn't seen this. Maybe it'll cleanse the palate from all this Obamacare stuff. I saw this on Facebook with a friend of mine saying how Putin is acting like the adult in the room, policy wise. "freepatriot.org posted:Last month we ran an article on a letter that Russian President Vladamir Putin wrote to the American people, trying to spell out in black and white, the dangers of radical Islamic extremism that faces the free nations of the planet. She legitimately believed Putin wrote this. The linked Op-Ed goes back to Breitbart. Vladamir Putin has two articles on Breitbart, one commenting on his NYT op-ed and the above story. It took a second to try and decide if I was more bothered that she hadn't exercised so much as five minutes of fact-checking or that she was straight up on board with a head of state saying he'd enjoy gassing an entire ethnic group. This is a good friend and I tend not to mix it up with her politically, but this is straight up praising genocide. Think what you want about ACA, but if you're cheerleading killing a million people with poison gas, I can't really be silent about that. Dicere fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Oct 9, 2013 |
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Mornacale posted:The big change needed is that originally everyone wanted to just have a fridge with free pop in it, but Bill couldn't stand that idea so they agreed to force everyone to pay for it instead. And that there used to be a soda machine that charged $10 a soda. If you were really thirsty and couldn't afford one, you could grab one for free, but then all your co workers had to chip in for your soda, and each time you did it the price if soda for everyone went up a bit. This machine was going to make everyone pay buy their own soda, and if they had trouble paying for it, management would cover some of the cost. I got way too into the analogy.
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The only thing the analogy is missing is that if you don't have a soda, you will die of a preventable disease.
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Oldeba posted:CRU: "So you get all the blacks who are standing in line at the grocery store taking food with food stamps that my taxes pay for, I saw this black woman talking on an iPhone while she was in line. You're going to tell me you can't work or afford groceries when you got an iPhone?" I hate this argument. I have an iphone. It was FREE with my phone contract.
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Breadallelogram posted:I bet you even have a refrigerator, you loving welfare queen. drat straight. Got a color tv too
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NatasDog posted:Right, but if you can afford the contract you're a freeloading moocher who should have spent that money eating beans and rice day in and day out, instead of asking for assistance; don't you understand? I suppose it's beyond consideration that a person in a "welfare" line could have their cell phone included in a family plan of a working family member (individual phones cost as little as 20 bucks a month), or paid off prior from when they had a job? I mean it's very possible that this is a normal middle-class person who has fallen on hard times in a tough economy, right? Yeah I know racists don't think like this. It color = lazy, always and forever.
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A wine barrel?? Ooh la la that's some fancy poo poo for someone living off my tax dollars. They should be in a Bud Lite box just big enough so we don't have to see their lower class genitalia.
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My brother-in-law recently had to fax an HR document to someone so he could start a new job. He has no car, no landline, and astoundingly, no fax machine. I'm incredibly grateful that he has a smartphone--which he first got while unemployed--because he was able to have someone email him the form, forward it to me, and I was able to complete and fax it for him. He literally would not have been able to start his job without that technology at his disposal. But yeah, gently caress those
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